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I'm not (at least not until the 5 is fully JB'ed) but there are certainly those that are.

Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that, I'm so used to my JB iPhone now. I wouldn't want to lose NC Settings, browser changer, BiteSMS, AdBlocker, etc. Also, waiting a year for the next one (likely with same form factor if we go on previous examples) means I can get a Mophie case for it straight away. I really wish they'd stop making the iPhone thinner, just put a decent battery in it, a few millimetres of thickness is hardly a problem.
 
No envy at all here. The 4s still ticks all the boxes for me, there is no lag in the operating system and the only thing that the iPhone 5 can do that the 4s can't is take pictures while shooting video. Actually, there's an app for that as well!
So I'll hold out til the 5s..

Ticks all the boxes for you is great but the Iphone 5 is noticeably thinner and lighter, has 4G LTE, A6 chip, better battery, improved camera and HD FaceTime. That's not ticking all the boxes for me.

The 4s is a great phone but the iPhone 5 is a huge upgrade IMO.
 
No need to be envy. Next year iPhone 5 will be outdated, because Apple relase 5S, with addressed issues of latter one - less prone to scuffs, better quality control and stuff. They'll add speedier A6 chip, 2gb of ram and longer lasting battery. Apple plays tik-tok strategy. It's always best to buy iPhone at "tok" one. Same was with 3GS, 4S and next year 5S and so on...
 
No need to be envy. Next year iPhone 5 will be outdated, because Apple relase 5S, with addressed issues of latter one - less prone to scuffs, better quality control and stuff. They'll add speedier A6 chip, 2gb of ram and longer lasting battery. Apple plays tik-tok strategy. It's always best to buy iPhone at "tok" one. Same was with 3GS, 4S and next year 5S and so on...

Well, I see the S upgrades as the Tick, and the new numbers as the Tock. I would much rather have the new number full upgrade rather than the smaller S upgrade.
 
In all seriousness though, the 5 is a huge step up from the 4. The iPhone 4 is getting on a little bit now in terms of iOS features and performance.

iOS features like Google Maps are keeping me from upgrading, actually. I know there are workarounds but Apple Maps is just poor quality.
 
Well, I see the S upgrades as the Tick, and the new numbers as the Tock. I would much rather have the new number full upgrade rather than the smaller S upgrade.
I get your point, but on the other hand it's risky to buy incremental iPhone upgrades. Just because there's always some issues with built quality or other software/hardware problems. Next iterations like 3GS, 4S are the ones well made with less issues. iPhone 5S will be much improved and really will be the iPhone 5 it should be in the first place. That's why I'm scared to buy incremental hardware upgrades. Just because Apple treats those customers like betatesters.
 
Envy? Jealous? Victim? No, no, and really no.

My decision not to buy is just that, a decision. Instead I would like to use the money I would spend there to continue to pay down student loans and my mortgage. The feeling of a new phone dies in a matter of days, the feeling of lower debt makes me happy every 2 weeks when I sit down and pay bills. Color me a boring ass adult because I am. I am certain others can buy and probably don't have debt and I am not saying that you're a child if you don't follow my lead; but I am saying that I've seen so many people in choose to pay for a new phone instead of paying for something that really matters.

Totally agree for the most part

For me it is yea, I am envious as who would not want the newest iphone. But as you said, paying down loans and other debt is SUCH a nicer feeling than having spent hundreds on a new phone that will be replaced in a years time.

If there is one thing I have learned so far, it is a MUCH better feeling for me to have money in my bank account and not have a crap ton of possessions than it is to have all these toys and be inflexible in terms of living (via finances)
 
I get your point, but on the other hand it's risky to buy incremental iPhone upgrades. Just because there's always some issues with built quality or other software/hardware problems. Next iterations like 3GS, 4S are the ones well made with less issues. iPhone 5S will be much improved and really will be the iPhone 5 it should be in the first place. That's why I'm scared to buy incremental hardware upgrades. Just because Apple treats those customers like betatesters.

True to a point. If you only upgrade every two years, getting the non-S type upgrade will feel fresher, as your "S" iPhone will look dated after one year when the new design comes out even though it's the better iteration.

Many people here upgrade yearly anyway.
 
No envy here. I own a 4S. Still on contract til next fall.

Does the 5 look better than the 4S? Well it's thinner and lighter. But it looks pretty similar aside from the aluminum (scratch prone) back. Especially 5's in a case, literally looks like a longer 4S, which is good because the 4/4S is a great design, and they probably wont stray too far away from that..


I've had a chance to play around with my room mates 5. Sure it's faster..faster by a long shot? No. Sure it looks pretty. Prettier than the 4S? No. Sure it has a bigger screen. Do I need that right now? No.

All signs point to the 5 not being worth it (FOR ME) to upgrade.

A Verizon Wireless service rep even told me today at work that upgrading to the 5 if you already have a 4S isn't necessary. His own words "It's a slightly faster 4S with LTE".

I can wait til next year for the LTE, bigger screen, faster chip.

For all those that are upgrading to the 5 from the 4S...do I think you made a poor decision? Yes, in my opinion it's not THAT much different, besides physically. My 4S is speedy enough to keep me satisfied until next model.

I'm also pretty strict with only upgrading every 2 years. I sort of think getting every iPhone model is preposterous...but that's consumerism.
 
Not envy at all until 5 is Jailbroken. The 1GB RAM extends the possibilities with tweaks etc.

But until then I can say that I'm having a much better user experience right now than anyone with a 5 :)
 
Well, I see the S upgrades as the Tick, and the new numbers as the Tock. I would much rather have the new number full upgrade rather than the smaller S upgrade.

The S update is always the best, in terms of sheer power under the hood, as it's a refinement of the original model, and I will never move off the S cycle now, having set my contract up so that it coincides as such. The S upgrade is only smaller if you're already on the previous year's model.

However, people who stick on the first year cycle will see the same performance increase as those on the S cycle though, it's simply a matter of perspective based on the device you're coming from.

Going from 4 to 5, missing 4S, will feel substantial but going from 4S to 5 less so.

Going from 4S to 5S, missing 5, is the exact same.

When I get the 5S, I'll get all those hardware refinements but I'll get an even more powerful A6 (possibly the A6X or possibly an A7), better camera, etc etc etc. To me, as a 4S owner, that S upgrade not a smaller upgrade, as you called it, but a quite substantial one.
 
No envy at all here. the only thing that the iPhone 5 can do that the 4s can't is take pictures while shooting video. Actually, there's an app for that as well!
So I'll hold out til the 5s..

..and lightning fast LTE. My 4S got 4-5 down on hspa+. And now I'm LOVING 35-45 down on my 5. Also, the screen makes a huge difference even though I didn't think it would. I love the 5 a lot more then I thought I would. It's just a beautiful, super fast device. Don't get me wrong, the 4S is more then capable. But I can see the envy the OP is feeling. I'd be feeling the same way. But, then again, I get every phone on launch day. I have 2 lines a year apart so one of them is upgradable every year. My other line is upgradable in sept 2013...just in time for the 5S.

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The S update is always the best, in terms of sheer power under the hood, as it's a refinement of the original model, and I will never move off the S cycle now, having set my contract up so that it coincides as such. The S upgrade is only smaller if you're already on the previous year's model.

However, people who stick on the first year cycle will see the same performance increase as those on the S cycle though, it's simply a matter of perspective based on the device you're coming from.

Going from 4 to 5, missing 4S, will feel substantial but going from 4S to 5 less so.

Going from 4S to 5S, missing 5, is the exact same.

When I get the 5S, I'll get all those hardware refinements but I'll get an even more powerful A6 (possibly the A6X or possibly an A7), better camera, etc etc etc. To me, as a 4S owner, that S upgrade not a smaller upgrade, as you called it, but a quite substantial one.

Moving from the 4S to 5 is a HUGE upgrade in terms of "sheer power under the hood". It's ridiculously fast...More then double my 4S.

Your on a good upgrade schedule, though. Nothing wrong with the 4s at all. I was just shocked on just how powerful and fast the A6 is. Can't wait to see what's in store for the 5S.
 
I have both, the 4S and now the 5. The speed, camera and larger screen are the big differences I like so far. But I could live with the 4S, it's a great phone.
 
...When I get the 5S, I'll get all those hardware refinements but I'll get an even more powerful A6 (possibly the A6X or possibly an A7), better camera, etc etc etc. To me, as a 4S owner, that S upgrade not a smaller upgrade, as you called it, but a quite substantial one.

But what about the 6?
 
Still got the 4...and it runs great.

Tried out the iPhone 5 at Best Buy though. Its crazy fast and light. Looked kinda weird.
 
No envy here, but that doesn't stop me admitting the 5 is a damn nice piece of kit.

Our phone does everything the 5 does, with the exception of the ability to shoot photos during video recording, and it's still a dual core CPU/GPU and an incredibly power smartphone. It's also worth remembering that the 4S was replaced within 12 months, whereas the 4 was replaced after 16 months so was on sale longer and was far older in relation to it's eventual successor.

iOS 6 is just as smooth on the 4S as it is on the 5, whereas the 4 suffers with stuttering/slow iOS UI animations throughout the operating system. You won't see too much difference between the likes of games on the 4S and 5 until six months down the line when developers begin pushing games with specific features that make the 5 version stand out.

I've no issues with the 4S, no envy, and wish those with the 5 the best using their new toy! :D I'll look forward to the now inevitable iPhone 5S when my upgrade becomes available.

Those saying that they aren't that different haven't spent a lot of time with them.

The biggest and most impressive difference to me is the screen's color saturation.

Until you've really had some time with it and gone back to look at the 4S you really don't get it. It's amazing.

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No need to be envy. Next year iPhone 5 will be outdated, because Apple relase 5S, with addressed issues of latter one - less prone to scuffs, better quality control and stuff. They'll add speedier A6 chip, 2gb of ram and longer lasting battery. Apple plays tik-tok strategy. It's always best to buy iPhone at "tok" one. Same was with 3GS, 4S and next year 5S and so on...

So funny that some people think this way. I guess there are always two camps when it comes to opinions on Apple's update strategy.

I personally prefer to get a revoulutionary rather than evolutionary product every 2 years.

The "true" Apple fans go for the former while the more "vanilla" soccer Mom types go for the latter. IMO. :D
 
But what about the 6?

As I said, it's the same regardless of the model number. When the 6 comes out I'll be on the 5S and waiting on the 6S.

The worthiness of the update is depending on which cycle you decide to sit on.

If you're on the original cycle, you'll always miss the S cycle, but still end up on a phone two models newer than what you currently have.

The same applies, vice versa, for the S cycle. You miss the first release of the new handset design, but you end up with the more powerful version with the S release.
 
I get your point, but on the other hand it's risky to buy incremental iPhone upgrades. Just because there's always some issues with built quality or other software/hardware problems. Next iterations like 3GS, 4S are the ones well made with less issues. iPhone 5S will be much improved and really will be the iPhone 5 it should be in the first place. That's why I'm scared to buy incremental hardware upgrades. Just because Apple treats those customers like betatesters.

I'm pretty sure the 5 is the 5 they intended it to be. Right now.

The 5S will be an improvement sure, but because an entire year will have passed.

Not because "that's what it should have been in the first place".

Flawed thinking IMHO. Sounds like a definite 4S envier to me....
 
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