That is true to a certain extent. I just loaded some newer games that released updates to take more advantage of the 4S' CPU/GPU and boy does this thing get hot when you are pushing it for an extended period of time!
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5.0.1 Battery Improvement?
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That is true to a certain extent. I just loaded some newer games that released updates to take more advantage of the 4S' CPU/GPU and boy does this thing get hot when you are pushing it for an extended period of time!
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Then apple should us the correct battery lifespan figures and not make them up.
NikeTalk said:
Then apple should us the correct battery lifespan figures and not make them up.
You don't need to be "honest" in your answer about how usage will vary. It is a reality that usage will vary depending on what I'm doing. For me, the standby time was nice to have improved in this minor update. If I can plug it in every 24 hours and still get a full days worth of regular usage (emails, texts, few phone calls) I'm happy.
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It's obviously more complex that just being more power hungry. People are reporting battery drains when upgrading their 4 and 3GS to iOS5. I'm getting 45 minutes of unexplained "usage" reported while on standby during a work day (+ the excessive battery drain), when the phone was not even used. There are likely multiple iOS5 bugs causing a battery drain. Hopefully the patch will fix things. I'm curious to know how much "usage" people are seeing while just on standby with 5.0.1.
It's obviously more complex that just being more power hungry. People are reporting battery drains when upgrading their 4 and 3GS to iOS5. I'm getting 45 minutes of unexplained "usage" reported while on standby during a work day (+ the excessive battery drain), when the phone was not even used. There are likely multiple iOS5 bugs causing a battery drain. Hopefully the patch will fix things. I'm curious to know how much "usage" people are seeing while just on standby with 5.0.1.
ericrwalker
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If that were the case I would be fine but mine is sucking up battery when I am not using it, it is telling me in the 12 hours I took it of charge it has been used for 8 hours. If that were the case I would have done nothing at work all day. When the phone is idle and doing nothing with no apps running it should not be losing 10-15% battery life.
Taz Mangus
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It takes 12 hours to charge your iPhone after the 5.0.1 update? How long did it take to charge your iPhone with iOS 5.0? I can charge my iPhone in about 3 hours from about 10% battery charge left to full charge.
There are a lot of people who aren't seeing these battery issues. I do think they exist -- I think it's some type of software bug that causes one or more radio (gps, Bluetooth, wifi, 2G/3G) to not power down when idle. I think that people who upgrade an iOS 4.x image are more likely to trigger it.
I have an iPhone 4s with iOS 5 pre-installed. I just set it up as a new device in iTunes (Didn't restore anything.)
I get nearly 2 days mixed use (90+ minutes of calling, an hour or so of wifi video, couple hours of games, maybe 7-8 total hours of usage, 1 day 7 hours standby.
I have everything turned on, 2 iCloud accounts, 3 exchange accounts, Facebook, Skype, Twitter, and some news apps all with notifications going.
The only thing I have turned off is Bluetooth (because don't use it) and Location Services check time zone (because in order to change timezones, I need to spend 6 hours or more on an Airplane...)
Based on my own experience, I think the design and architecture of the iPhone 4s is fine, and capable of very good battery life.
You have miss read my post I said in the 12 hours I have taken it off charge. I am still on 5.0.
SR45
macrumors 65832
Ya, right ! "by the time I get my...."
Just had to laugh out loud on that one ericrwalker. 😀
BoxerGT2.5
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Thetonyk123
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ericrwalker
macrumors 68030
I was wondering about this. I think it's mainly an iOS 5 issue, I was having issues with my iPhone4 after upgrading. I changed some settings and my battery life dang near doubled.
Texxy
macrumors 6502
How do we know that battery life is actually improving not just what the % is showing. Has anyone used any of the sys monitor apps or done a full 100 to shutdown test. Just hope they arent what they did when they just made the bars fatter and taller for antennagate
SanjeevRana
macrumors 6502a
Well one of the bugs to be fixed in 5.0.1 seems to be iCloud Push
Working flawlessly now ... will monitor more !
Working flawlessly now ... will monitor more !
Donka
macrumors 68030
I see the same behaviour but I don't think the battery is defective. After 3 full recharge cycles, I was averaging 4-5hrs usage and exactly 2 days standby to 1% on the 4s. I knew the 4 always lasted longer so I have switched back to the 4 to compare and it is currently @ 3h 16m usage, 1d 15h standby with 52% remaining. I reckon the 4 is getting on average about 50% more battery life than the 4s. During this time on the 4, the 4s was fully charged but is sitting in standby with no sim card in it so effectively no network connection. During this same 1d 15h period it has dropped to 89% on the battery. I can see in the usage stats that is has been used for over 30 mins even though I have done nothing with it so something in IOS is actively trying to run but given the battery drain without the sim card is not as high, I assume the problems are related to a network connection. Both of my phones are running IOS 5 using the exact same restore and are configured identically. Now I expect the A5 for example to use more power than the A4 but I'm trying to think from a software perspective what is on the 4s and not on the 4 that could be using or trying to get a network connection. Siri? Does that do anything in the background that we are unaware of? Is there anything else that is 4s specific?
If I recall correctly in one of his thread, he did mentioned that it was in airplane mode while he was sleeping. Obviously you won't lose a % if you are in airplane mode and have everything turned off.
JoJoCal19
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The posts about usage time really don't mean anything. Usage time can have a HUGE variance depending on several factors of what the users have running, what app they are using during that time, etc. The biggest factor is screen brightness. I keep my screen at no more than 33%. User 2 might keep his at 50%, User 3 at 75% and User 4 at 100%. I notice a much more noticeable drop in battery the higher the screen brightness.
The telling factor of the improvement really should be in the standby time.
The telling factor of the improvement really should be in the standby time.
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If you're using the phone with settings exactly the same as the 4 and there is a significant difference in power consumption, then this runs against what apple are quoting.
JoJoCal19 said:
If you're using the phone with settings exactly the same as the 4 and there is a significant difference in power consumption, then this runs against what apple are quoting.
I'm with you. There are a million factors that go into what drains the battery. Every day is different depending on what I use my phone for.
jmgregory1
macrumors 68040
I'm at 12% remaining after unplugging at 100% yesterday morning around 7am. I had a relatively light phone day yesterday - I'm showing 6 hours 26 mins of usage and 25 hours standby.
I didn't have severe battery issues, but I was seeing big drops just in using the phone for phone calls. I've got just about everything going, wifi, bt, notifications, location services, push email on 6 accounts. I don't expect the battery to last for 2 days, but it would be nice to get through the day without worrying whether I'll have anything left at 10pm when I'm still working.
iOS 5.0.1 does seem to have an effect on things, but I'm guessing there are probably other tweaks that could be made to improve things further.
I didn't have severe battery issues, but I was seeing big drops just in using the phone for phone calls. I've got just about everything going, wifi, bt, notifications, location services, push email on 6 accounts. I don't expect the battery to last for 2 days, but it would be nice to get through the day without worrying whether I'll have anything left at 10pm when I'm still working.
iOS 5.0.1 does seem to have an effect on things, but I'm guessing there are probably other tweaks that could be made to improve things further.
Maverick1337
macrumors 65816
I really hope they fix it. I miss my good battery life on my 4. Now with the 4S, if I'm just simply browsing the internet my battery life drops significantly. It is nowhere near my iPhone 4 on 4.3.3. God damnit....