Every 3 months the price of a brand new iMac should drop by $50.
It should be plotted on a curve.
It should be plotted on a curve.
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500 Days with the same iMac - Lets celebrate!
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I have a lot of invested in the software so making a switch is not financially possible.
Hackintosh is unreliable.
I am not bitching, Im giving you valid reasons why Im not buying current machine.
Only if you buy today and sell tomorrow.
I keep all computers for 30 months before even thinking about selling, and in that case what you are saying does not hold up to scrutiny.
I alway sell by the 33 month so there is 90 days of Apple Care left.
Nothing can help the resale value as much as having a little warranty left!
People saying "buy when you need it" should mind their own business ... I do buy whenever I want, period !
P.S. : "I'll want" when a brand new REDESIGNED iMac will be available ... or I'll wait more !
P.S. : "I'll want" when a brand new REDESIGNED iMac will be available ... or I'll wait more !
Apple figures in a post PC era the current machines are good enough since their customers spend most of their time on iDevices these days. I would expect small updates along the way, but every quarter the iDevices keep making more and more profits so that is where the company is focused. There will always be Windows PCs so someday I could see living most of your life on an iDevice and owning a Windows PC just for doing a few things that the iDevice can't do.
Apple is all about the future and increasing profits. The trusty PC just doesn't really have a place in their long term future or business plan.
I think the Mac will hang around for a few more years, but at this point the Mac is to the iDevices like the Apple II was to the Mac. Apple just isn't that excited about it anymore and will attempt to find ways to slowly merge OSX into iOS.
No, its still valid. There will always be a price differential between models regardless of their purchase date. The best time to buy a Mac to optimize the value is either just after intrduction of a new model or just as the new model hits the refurb store. Whether you buy at the beginning or end of the cycle you pay the same but as soon as a new model is introduced, the old model's resale value drops.
I'm relatively new to the Mac world (been around here since a couple of years) : what is Apple II ?
The Apple II was Apple's main system before the Macintosh. After the Mac was introduced the Apple II hung on for several years, but took a back seat to the Mac. After so many years it was gently phased out. I think in a way we are seeing the same thing happening here although the phase out might be a little slower this time.
The mac pro and then mac mini will be the first products to go. The iMac will be the last desktop for sure.
There are several reasons why the current one isn´t enough:
The guaranteed updates:
-more up to date prices on SSD
-Much better GPU
-Better and more energy efficient CPU (which means less heat, the iMac gets hot)
-Ability to add even more RAM
-Bigger SSD drive option
-USB 3
And then its the wishlist features:
-less reflective and better screen (this is one of my biggest hopes)
-New design/form factor
-Retina (not likely but still something people are not 100% sure will happen or not)
To me this seems like a pretty good reason to wait. Most likely you will get all of the guaranteed ones for the same price as todays machine. This is a good enough reason for me to wait, no matter how long it takes.
The guaranteed updates:
-more up to date prices on SSD
-Much better GPU
-Better and more energy efficient CPU (which means less heat, the iMac gets hot)
-Ability to add even more RAM
-Bigger SSD drive option
-USB 3
And then its the wishlist features:
-less reflective and better screen (this is one of my biggest hopes)
-New design/form factor
-Retina (not likely but still something people are not 100% sure will happen or not)
To me this seems like a pretty good reason to wait. Most likely you will get all of the guaranteed ones for the same price as todays machine. This is a good enough reason for me to wait, no matter how long it takes.
I bought a new imac 2 days ago and I will tell you my reasoning. First my 2008 imac with the Nividia 8800 died on me a month ago. I have been using a win7 pc in the mean time. I waited until after the sep 12th announcement to make a move just in case. I have computer coverage on my insurance policy and they need a reciept for a new computer purchase within 30 days. I plan on keeping this new iMac for ~3 years maybe less. I will sell it and purchase the new fangled imac then. I got student pricing plus the $100 app card. With my savings I will be able to purchase a new iphone. I can upgrade my cpu to an i7 and the memory is cheap right now. I am on a rollercoaster ride right now because I really don't like buying older tech, but I was kind of stuck. Plus, there is no proof that a new imac will be out in october. Though it could be. I might still sell it on ebay once the new imacs come out, but in all likelihood I will keep this one around for awhile. If sandy to ivy was a huge jump in performance I would find a way to put off the purchase. IMO there isn't a big enough jump. I don't game on macs so I don't care as much about the GPU. As long as it runs HD video I am happy. Sorry for the wall of text. I will enjoy my newish imac. 
Using that silly logic, you don't really NEED anything besides food and water.
The current iMac is out of date technology sold at a premium, high-end price. Simple as that. It's a terrible buy at it's current price. If they drop the price down to $899, then we can talk about needs and wants all you like. Until then, it is simply overpriced and out of date.
Seriously people that say dropping $2000 or more on a computer makes more financial sense than buying a$500 external Thunderbolt or $300 for a hub that gives you USB 3 capabilities crack me up.
People are scared to open an iMac up to put in an SSD, replace the CPU or the video card but not scared to do it on a regular PC
Oh ok, now here's where that warranty speech comes into play.
Seriously people that say dropping $2000 or more on a computer makes more financial sense than buying a$500 external Thunderbolt or $300 for a hub that gives you USB 3 capabilities crack me up.
People are scared to open an iMac up to put in an SSD, replace the CPU or the video card but not scared to do it on a regular PC
Oh ok, now here's where that warranty speech comes into play.
Most desktop PCs are cheaper and easier to open and the iMac is an AIO that is difficult to open, also you would see the same attitude about opening up a difficult to open and expensive Windows AIO
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It´s a great day for the iMac and another feat for Apple. I think it deserves a celebration thread.
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I'm in. Thanks for the invite to the party.
Good things are coming. It's just going to be a while.
It seems like a tough dilema, but it's really only frustration; after all the venting, not many are going to get fed up and buy a windows machine (those that do will regret it). I think apple knows this, so it's either buy now, or wait and buy after the refresh...
But in the meantime, it's ok, let's vent away
But in the meantime, it's ok, let's vent away
Most desktop PCs are cheaper and easier to open and the iMac is an AIO that is difficult to open, also you would see the same attitude about opening up a difficult to open and expensive Windows AIO
Oh I agree with you that a standard tower computer is easier but it is all in your comfort level. Once you do it then it doesn't seem that difficult.
If you have a clean area to work on and have an inexpensive static wrist strap (which I use even building regular PC's, we also always wore when in the Air Force when tearing down our avionics equipment) then it just comes down to some screws and cable connectors.
My dad thinks the same about my new Super Duty pickup compared to his older one, "How can you even work on this thing? Everything is packed in such a small space"
Seriously people that say dropping $2000 or more on a computer makes more financial sense than buying a$500 external Thunderbolt or $300 for a hub that gives you USB 3 capabilities crack me up.
People are scared to open an iMac up to put in an SSD, replace the CPU or the video card but not scared to do it on a regular PC
Oh ok, now here's where that warranty speech comes into play.
1. Yes I could buy the adapter but it's yet again additional expense (a big one, considering it is an adapter). But I have thought about it, still I'd rather have integrated solution. You've got one internet point sir.
2. Don't get that warranty thing you're talking about. You tell me I shouldn't be worried if my computer has warranty if I drop so much cash on it? That's pretty important for me. It'd be a whole different story if iMac was easily accessible.. but it's not.
So just you know, I don't have iMac, I am planning on buying it, so I'm not "replacing" my computer, I'd rather replace my ineffective workflow that I have know (due to lack of USB 3.0 on current iMac and the Mac I own).
EDIT: I get that "don't be afraid to open iMac" argument but I won't be risking warranty because of it.