50th Anniversary of the Apollo 11 Landing

[TallRed]

You overlook the possibility that they are just making it up. Its like a clinical trial to prove that eggs are healthy, sponsored by the Egg Industry. Or one to prove that meat is healthy sponsored by the meat industry. Whoever pays them, of course they will give them the answer they wanted, usually fudged to an incredibly large degree. Monsanto say that their glyphosate-based Roundup weedkiller is safe and they have test results to prove it. Meanwhile, there are at least four court cases where they lost and had to pay out millions for ruining the health of operatives who used their product.

I don't feel that just because somebody spoke that I have to believe them.

That’s true, but you should develop your critical thinking skills, which at the moment seem nonexistent. In the examples you cited, both the egg industry and Monsanto had some good reasons to suppress and misrepresent evidence. I don’t see the same standard for NASA. Why lie? Why mount a decades long conspiracy involving tens of thousands of people and no one leaked it for 50 years? It just doesn’t seem credible. What would NASA’s collective motivation be? If not to the moon, where did NASA’s budget go? Government money doesn’t just evaporate, you know.

 

[Tigger11]

You overlook the possibility that they are just making it up.

You forget to explain why Nvidia a company almost 12000 people is making up the the App to show a "fake" moon landing, and how are they not being caught puttin unrealistic values in for light, reflections etc on the system in question? As I pointed out, since early 90s, there are been readily available setups of the moon craft, suits, etc, to "mimic" the moon landing, amazingly all of them generate pictures that look like the actual moon photos, not what the hoaxsters THINK they should look like. The thing that is different about the Nvidia demo is that its realtime with a powerful nvidia card, you don't have to render all the frames out overnight as we did in the 90s.

I don't feel that just because somebody spoke that I have to believe them. I have my own mind and intelligence and I can use these faculties to accept or reject whatever anyone says, no matter how great, powerful, famous or wealthy they may be. This is called free will and I exercise my right to use it.

And yet you have a bunch of people with youtube channels that make you believe a farce.

Proof? How about these. Please watch them from beginning to end though, skipping through won't help anybody.

How about you write a comment, explain youself not put 15 minutes of new bad (and old) youtube videos followed by the 42 minutes of idiocy you have suggested 3 times before and which you know I have indeed watched. This is a thread about the moon landing, you want to talk about it, great, we can discuss it, stop telling everyone that an ancient video has the answers to someones questions when it doesnt.

But for one last time, lets talk about your videos.

The missing Telemetry Data. First of all NO TELEMETRY DATA IS MISSING. The NASA clips in this video is about the search before the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11 (ie over 10 years ago) for THE ORIGINAL telemetry tapes from Apollo 11, it has nothing to do with any of the other missions. Why were they looking for the tapes? Because Apollo 11 is unique in that the original video signal was sent in the telemetry packets, since it wasnt in NTSC format, it was converted in real time to what we saw on TV, however an idea at the approach of the 40th anniversary was how can we get the best possible picture and it was suggested we take the master off the telemetry tapes. Thats when it was realized it that the original telemetry tapes couldnt be found. The only thing missing is the original video, we just have what was broadcast, though the tapes auctioned off last week by Sothebys for $1.8 M may actually be part of the missing tapes.

Oh no, you found someone else (ie Better Mankind) that doesnt understand the Van Allen Belts and the Atmosphere that is awesome. The Astronauts are correct we don't have a system that can take humans out of LEO, we made 15 Saturn V rockets, we used 13 of them, the other two are museum exhibits. The Falcon heavy could take the Orion capsule to the Moon, but again its not approved for launching people. As a final comment I would point out, taking a piece of NASA video about going to Mars and shortening it so that you imply that they are talking about radiation going to the Moon, probably doesnt qualify as "fair use".

I'm sorry Buzz Aldrin has done alot of things (including punching out people who said he didnt go to the moon), but admitting we didnt go to the moon is not one of them. Clever editing of a clip to less than a minute "to prove" your point is silly.

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I've talked about this video already, its an old video not from the BBC with theories all disproved, in fact I think the Mythbusters video actually covers EVERYTHING in this video, I'm sure by now you have watched the mythbusters video and realize the errors of your ways.
-Tig

 

[Tigger11]

I don’t see the same standard for NASA. Why lie? Why mount a decades long conspiracy involving tens of thousands of people and no one leaked it for 50 years? It just doesn’t seem credible. What would NASA’s collective motivation be? If not to the moon, where did NASA’s budget go? Government money doesn’t just evaporate, you know.

Actually as VKD is telling it, the conspiracy is much bigger then that. During Apollo 400,000 people worked on it and 20,000 companies. The Soviets tracked all 9 missions to the moon and back (Apollo 8, 10-17), as did the UK and several other countries. Australia actually got us the live feeds from Apollo 11 as many know. Since the Apollo landings 10 of 1000s (including myself) have used the laser reflectors to measure the distance to the moon. Every space faring country that has send probes to the moon have seen one or more of the landing sites. Thats the 22 countries of the ESA as well as Japan, China, Russia and India. LROC obviously has taken lots of pictures of the sites as its mapped the entire moon surface and found all but one of the various probes that have journeyed to the Moon. All of these governments and all of the employees of these space agencies have to be in on it, or it would have been discovered long ago. Today he decided a good chunk of Nvidia employees plus everyone thats using the demo and looking at the numbers is part of the conspiracy. At some point you would think that continuing to believe in a 50 year old multmillion person conspiracy would make you rethink the whole idea, but there are people here in town that don't believe we went, and they were protesting at the celebration this weekend.
-Tig

 

[TallRed]

Actually as VKD is telling it, the conspiracy is much bigger then that. During Apollo 400,000 people worked on it and 20,000 companies. The Soviets tracked all 9 missions to the moon and back (Apollo 8, 10-17), as did the UK and several other countries. Australia actually got us the live feeds from Apollo 11 as many know. Since the Apollo landings 10 of 1000s (including myself) have used the laser reflectors to measure the distance to the moon. Every space faring country that has send probes to the moon have seen one or more of the landing sites. Thats the 22 countries of the ESA as well as Japan, China, Russia and India. LROC obviously has taken lots of pictures of the sites as its mapped the entire moon surface and found all but one of the various probes that have journeyed to the Moon. All of these governments and all of the employees of these space agencies have to be in on it, or it would have been discovered long ago. Today he decided a good chunk of Nvidia employees plus everyone thats using the demo and looking at the numbers is part of the conspiracy. At some point you would think that continuing to believe in a 50 year old multmillion person conspiracy would make you rethink the whole idea, but there are people here in town that don't believe we went, and they were protesting at the celebration this weekend.
-Tig

Excellent points. I had another disturbing question while reading your post. What about the 3 Apollo astronauts who burned up? If the space program were all an elaborate charade, why put men’s lives in serious jeopardy?

 

[vkd]

In the examples you cited, both the egg industry and Monsanto had some good reasons to suppress and misrepresent evidence.

What, like, to sell more eggs? ROFL

(Not to mention DUBIOUSLY sell eggs, ie under false pretences.)

It just doesn’t seem credible. What would NASA’s collective motivation be? If not to the moon, where did NASA’s budget go? Government money doesn’t just evaporate, you know.

No, and it doesn't seem credible to me that Boris Johnson could be voted president of England, but it happened. Now we have the blonde comedy double act to lie back and bask incredulously at. While the world goes to hell -- fast.

Who's to say anything about govt. money? They can say anything they like, and do. In England they are forever telling the public how many millions of tax-payers hard earned money is being spent on such-and-such vexing project. It is a political tactic to help keep the minions subordinated, you can research it if you like.

At the end of the day if you wanna believe in something that is up to you. I can't change your mind, obviously. You can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink. Q.E.D.

Adios, I've nothing else to say on this thread now so thanks for your input and have a nice day.

 

[TallRed]

No, and it doesn't seem credible to me that Boris Johnson could be voted president of England, but it happened. Now we have the blonde comedy double act to lie back and bask incredulously at. While the world goes to hell -- fast.

If this is an example of your rigorous thinking, it’s no wonder you subscribe to lunatic conspiracy theories. Boris Johnson is not the president of England. He’s the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Or, if you’re Ivanka Trump, the Prime Minister of the United Kingston.

Who's to say anything about govt. money? They can say anything they like, and do. In England they are forever telling the public how many millions of tax-payers hard earned money is being spent on such-and-such vexing project. It is a political tactic to help keep the minions subordinated, you can research it if you like.

So you have no answers. Somehow I’m not surprised.

At the end of the day if you wanna believe in something that is up to you. I can't change your mind, obviously. You can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink. Q.E.D.

True, just as you can lead a lunatic conspiracy theorist to facts but you can’t make him think.

Adios, I've nothing else to say on this thread now so thanks for your input and have a nice day.

You too. As a parting gift, let me enhance your wardrobe with this addition. Wear it in good health:

http://tinyurl.com/8max89x

 

[Tigger11]

At the end of the day if you wanna believe in something that is up to you. I can't change your mind, obviously. You can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink. Q.E.D.

Adios, I've nothing else to say on this thread now so thanks for your input and have a nice day.

So no real response, you need to get back to your 12 hour Flat-Earth Marathon, and without an actual real comment about the subject, you are gone in an effort to reach Stage 2 of Science Denier, ie Flat Earther. I know, I know, as an expert on the Flat Earth people that coming from a NASA town, in fact according to many the main source of NASA's famed Ice Wall Guards, I am part of the great conspiracy, but actually ask yourself do you really think the US Government as incompetant as it is, could keep secret known by millions of people. The entire thing is super similar to the South Park episode, the Underpants Gnomes. Remember their plan.

Step 1: Steal Underpants
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Profit

You are sure they faked the moon landing, you are sure they made money off of it, you have no idea how it was faked or how they make money. You realize we would laugh if you said the Saturn V didnt launch since millions saw that happen, but can't go to the moon cause of Van Allen Death Cooties, you are absolutely sure.
-Tig

 

[Tigger11]

Excellent points. I had another disturbing question while reading your post. What about the 3 Apollo astronauts who burned up? If the space program were all an elaborate charade, why put men’s lives in serious jeopardy?

Yeah, obviously the Apollo 1 astronauts deaths are really hard to explain if they werent trying to go to the moon, Gus, Ed and Roger all have schools named after them here in Huntsville, come tell us here that they didnt die in a terrible fire or that they didnt exist and you are going to need a good dentist. Its the Pentagon issue all over again. People like to say Flight 77 didnt hit the Pentagon, I had one of the Lockheed newbies tell me during lunch when they were here for a meeting that she didnt know anyone who knew anyone on Flight 77, and was really shocked when I told her I knew 3 people on the flight and went to two of the funerals. Suddenly telling someone in person that their friends werent killed in a horrible hijacking but it was terrible hoax and actually done with a missile and the plane never existed wasnt as easy as doing it on the internet as a virtually anonymous person.
-Tig

 

[MacDawg]

Maybe if you posted the video again...

 

[vkd]

Maybe if you posted the video again...

Why bother? Conspiracy-denying dawgs still haven't watched it.

 

[TallRed]

These guys are just paid-off trolls, obviously. Tigger11 & TallRed we're looking at you guys.

Paid-off? I guess that check must be in the mail! Lol.

 

[Tigger11]

Why bother? Conspiracy-denying dawgs still haven't watched it.

I watched all of them and commented on them, despite the fact they didn't answer any of the questions I asked. I'm not sure if that's because you didn't know the content of the videos you posted as answers or thought that once I saw those terribly unscientific videos I would give up on my questions. I'm not sure which of those answers is more disturbing. Others posted the Myth-Busters video, you watched it, just like I watched your video right? You are going to be explaining to us just any minute now, what is wrong with the video. I tell people the easiest way to see if a conspiracy is fake is act the one believing it to tell us what really happened. On the Moon hoax, not one story is the same, every moon hoaxer has a different spin, a different plan, they conflict (as most conspiracies do). So here we go we will make it easy, I'll tell you what I know happened Dec 21, 1968 til Dec 27, 1968 and then you post your version since we know it has to differ.

Dec 21, 1968 - Borman, Lovell & Anders launch from Kennedy Space Center on a Saturn V rocket (Apollo 8)

Dec 21, 1968 - Apollo 8 leaves LEO and heads to the Moon

Dec 24, 1968 - Apollo 8 enters Lunar Orbit

During the 4th orbit the famous Earthrise picture is taken

During the 9th orbit the Apollo 8 astronauts are part of a live TV broadcast for Christmas Eve, they read from Genesis

Dec 25, 1968 - Apollo 8 astronauts have completed 10 orbits of the moon and head home

Dec 27, 1968 - Apollo 8 lands in the Pacific Ocean and is recovered by the USS Yorktown

Ok, you have mine, now explain what you think "REALLY" happened VKD!!!!

-Tig

 

[vkd]

Ok, you have mine, now explain what you think "REALLY" happened VKD!!!!

-Tig

Yesterday a nice friend of mine took the trouble to make notes of the hoax video and I copy them below for your delectation, enjoy!
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this is a very insightful video (the first few mins can be skipped).
the video makes VERY good points as follows:

1) the van Allen belt - stretching thousands of miles around the earth - intense radiation - to pass through it, you need 6 INCHES of lead as a minimum. no Apollo mission module ever had this.

2) the cold war backstory and how USA was always behind USSR who already sent the first artificial object into space, the first dog, the first man and woman... and USA, nothing. in fact, NASA was having accidents and disasters.

3) the lighting/shadow angles cast on the "moon" photos in the same shot are not natural. this cannot be disputed/explained. objects visible and also not visible in the shade is incompatible with natural light.

4) objects that look like props and crosshairs that go under an object.

5) no stars!!! earth can be seen but no stars! no recollection of ever seeing stars by all 3 astronauts!! and then later in time, some admittance of it. just like a starry sky can be seen much better in the countryside than in the city, imagine how visible they are in space between earth and moon, and also even on the moon surface, with no atmosphere (air) to bounce the light away.

6) no moondust on landing module or thrust crater on landing site! yet the surface was a fine dust (on 1/6 gravity) that astronauts said you could sink your boot into by quite a few cm in places.

7) flag flapping in the wind apparently - decide for yourself at 26 mins

8) playback of moonwalk when sped up is just like bouncing-hopping on earth's gravity. this is more important when considering that the tv channels were not allowed to get the live video feed but had to film a projected screen! and now, conveniently, the tapes i believe are lost! absurd!

9) there was a colour video camera on board filming inside but moon videos only show low b&w video. absurd.

10) video leaked of astronauts during the same dates as the moonflight to be faking the earth view as if seen from very far away - see from 28 mins onwards and the trick at 35 mins. why would they do this if they really were going to the moon???

11) now consider the tall order of Pres. Kennedy's speech of getting a man on the moon by the end of the decade - he was assassinated...

12) all 3 astronauts resigned from NASA soon after

from the first video, it explains that all the telemetry info is missing. how??? reams and tapes of it! the technology to send the man to the moon is LOST! WOW, 1969 technology all gone - now we are in 2019 technology.

of course, there's more points elsewhere. but this video for me convinces me beyond any doubt.

and PS; it's all in Buzz's face when Trump makes his speech - totally!!!
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Paid-off? I guess that check must be in the mail! Lol.

Must be late paying this month. Check out the hoax notes I posted above, see what you think. Are you convinced yet? Convinced or brainwashed? That is the question. (Only conspiracy theorists can be convinced, but any old fool can be brainwashed, and they are.)

 

[MacDawg]

So, instead of posting the video yet again, you just post notes of the same video
I see what you did there you crafty devil you

 

[TallRed]

Check out the hoax notes I posted above, see what you think. Are you convinced yet? Convinced or brainwashed? That is the question. (Only conspiracy theorists can be convinced, but any old fool can be brainwashed, and they are.)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! What a super-genius! Apparently, in your alternate universe, there are only 2 options: you’re right or I’m wrong. Keep working on that critical thinking, Bunky. There’s another option you haven’t considered: you’re wrong. Brainwashing has nothing to do with it. A little research and a little science answers all your questions.

For example, your point about the tapes being lost following number 12 (and number 8) is easily answered. The tapes were either thrown out as junk, reused for later flights, or sold for auction. The proof is this: a private citizen ponied up the original tapes for the moon walk which had a much better resolution. He bought it from NASA in a cardboard box for $200. Case closed.

11. 2 unrelated events.

12. So? Where do you go from up? If this were really a conspiracy, all 3 astronauts would have met with untimely deaths. But that didn’t happen.

5. Elementary photography. It all has to do with f-stops and exposure settings. The actual documentary I linked to explains this and demonstrates it as well.

2. NASA has their share of failures, but obviously some successes too. You wouldn’t know about the USSR’s failures because they kept those very secret.

1. True to a point, the point being you would have to stay in the radiation belts for 2 weeks for damage to occur.

Sloppy thinking begets more sloppy thinking. Try real science. It’s much more interesting than lunatic conspiracy theories.

 

[Tigger11]

Yesterday a nice friend of mine took the trouble to make notes of the hoax video and I copy them below for your delectation, enjoy!
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this is a very insightful video (the first few mins can be skipped).
the video makes VERY good points as follows:

1) the van Allen belt - stretching thousands of miles around the earth - intense radiation - to pass through it, you need 6 INCHES of lead as a minimum. no Apollo mission module ever had this.

First of all this very comment shows a remarkable lack of knowledge about radiation.
Lets look at the Van Allen Belt with the help of this PDF.

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/SMIII_Problem7.pdf

As I said earlier, it incredibly likely I know more about Radiation and physics then your and your friend, but this isn't about Pooh's bouncy friend vs VKD and his cronies. This is VKD and his cronies implying that they know about the Radiation and the Van Allen belts, than the guy who discovered them, noted scientist Dr James Van Allen, who stated quite simply that to get a fatal dose of radiation you would have to hang out in the worst part of the Van Allen belts for a week. Instead they were in the belts less than an hour, as shown in the PDF and went though as little as possible. If you want to bring them up again, please explain how the Van Allen belts are an issue, not retread your previous Killer Cooties theory.

2) the cold war backstory and how USA was always behind USSR who already sent the first artificial object into space, the first dog, the first man and woman... and USA, nothing. in fact, NASA was having accidents and disasters.

I honestly wonder if you are even reading the responses. The Second half of message 49 talks about this, and how March 1965, is that last time the russians were ahead on manned travel until after Apollo. everything they did, we did within a few months. Then N1 failed, Saturn V worked, we sneaked Apollo 8 in 1968 before they could fix whatever was partially wrong on Zond 5 and fatally wrong on Zond 6 and we orbited the moon first. After that, they tried to get Luna 15 (unmanned) to the moon and back before Apollo 11 with rocks, but cracked it into a mountain on the moon.

3) the lighting/shadow angles cast on the "moon" photos in the same shot are not natural. this cannot be disputed/explained. objects visible and also not visible in the shade is incompatible with natural light.

Thats a opinion, Nvidia, Lightwave, Maya, 3D Studio Max and Renderman disagree with, its been proven with all of them over the years, I've been paid to do it on Lightwave no less than 3 times. Nvidia's is available free on their website.

4) objects that look like props and crosshairs that go under an object.

This one is so silly, and been explained so many times, I'm just going to say watch the video from Mythbusters.

5) no stars!!! earth can be seen but no stars! no recollection of ever seeing stars by all 3 astronauts!! and then later in time, some admittance of it. just like a starry sky can be seen much better in the countryside than in the city, imagine how visible they are in space between earth and moon, and also even on the moon surface, with no atmosphere (air) to bounce the light away.

I went outside today and took a picture of the sky, guess what NO STARS. How come when I take a picture of the sky during the day I get NO STARS, help me VKD, I think they are all gone. Oh wait, is it because of the Sunlight, I'll bet it is.

6) no moondust on landing module or thrust crater on landing site! yet the surface was a fine dust (on 1/6 gravity) that astronauts said you could sink your boot into by quite a few cm in places.

First of all the thrust isnt very much for the lander, and its over a large area, also dust doesnt work that way in a vacuum, especially at 1/6 G. And if you actually look, you can see that the dust has been disturbed.

7) flag flapping in the wind apparently - decide for yourself at 26 mins

Literally as I tell everyone about this, the Apollo 18 flag is here at the Space and Rocket Center next the LM setup. I got enough pull to make it wiggle for you, come and visit, we'll learn you some knowledge. Also if you watch the video, you realize the flag literally stops moving though it still has the wrinkles in it and the astronauts continue to move.

8) playback of moonwalk when sped up is just like bouncing-hopping on earth's gravity. this is more important when considering that the tv channels were not allowed to get the live video feed but had to film a projected screen! and now, conveniently, the tapes i believe are lost! absurd!

Actually it doesnt play like that, used to be something we would show all the time on the 40th anniversary, its actually the easiest way to show the video isnt faked. If you speed up the video so it doesnt show the pendulum, etc working at 1/6 gravity, the rest of the video is way off kilter.

And actually tapes aren't lost, they just sold for 1.82 M at Sothebys last week.

9) there was a colour video camera on board filming inside but moon videos only show low b&w video. absurd.

No they only had 700 khz of bandwidth on the Unified S-Band that the video for Apollo 11 (and only Apollo 11) was traveling on, thats why it was black and white and only 10 frames/sec.

10) video leaked of astronauts during the same dates as the moonflight to be faking the earth view as if seen from very far away - see from 28 mins onwards and the trick at 35 mins. why would they do this if they really were going to the moon???

As I said in my original analysis of that video, I dont think the the guy talking about it, has ever taken a picture with an film camera. His belief show a remarkable lack of understanding of common concepts of photography.

11) now consider the tall order of Pres. Kennedy's speech of getting a man on the moon by the end of the decade - he was assassinated...

Kennedy was assassinated in 1963, what on earth does that have to do with Man walking on the moon on 6 separate occasions, two presidents later from 1969-1972?

12) all 3 astronauts resigned from NASA soon after

Same reason I don't climb mountains anymore. I went to K2 and then I gave it up. If you have been to the moon, where exactly is up from there. I would note that not all 24 people that went to the moon, quit NASA, that kinda hurts the theory of yours. In fact 3 people journeyed to the moon twice, so how do you explain that?

from the first video, it explains that all the telemetry info is missing. how??? reams and tapes of it! the technology to send the man to the moon is LOST! WOW, 1969 technology all gone - now we are in 2019 technology.

Again as I explained several times, NO TELEMETRY INFO WAS LOST. Do you even know what the Telemetry info is? What was believed lost were the original Telemetry tapes from Apollo 11, they were being searched for, because the original tapes also have the 700 Khz Video Signal which contains the original video, during the 40th anniversary a search for them was made to do a clean up of the video from the original source, they couldn't be found. What actually happened, is the guy who had bought them from the surplus sale, figured they would be even more valuable at the 50th anniversary and had them authenticated a few months ago and now has sold them for 1.82M at Sotheby's.

I keep noticing you keep acting as if Apollo's 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 & 17 didn't happen. Also I note you didn't actually do your assignment, tell me how Apollo 8 happened in your mind. I told you how it really happened.
-Tig

 

[quatermass]

Moon landing is a false, fallacy farce. They never went to the moon. This is not a conspiracy theory, it is a fact. On the other hand, insisting that they did go to the moon is a conspiracy theory and if you subscribe to it, you've been duped. That is a fact too.

Also, the Earth is flat! All photos of the Earth from space are fake, unlike all the photos of the flat Earth from space. NASA? Also fake. Moon? Fake - it's really a hologram projected by fake NASA, or something, because reasons. Anyway, it's all in the Bible, everyone of the mouth-breathing Flattards in his trailer park say so, therefore true.

 

[quatermass]

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/

Included real-time elements:

• All mission control film footage
• All TV transmissions and onboard film footage
• 2,000 photographs
• 11,000 hours of Mission Control audio
• 240 hours of space-to-ground audio
• All onboard recorder audio
• 15,000 searchable utterances
• Post-mission commentary
• Astromaterials sample data

 

[ThunderSkunk]

Tomorrow marks the 50th anniversary since Apollo 11 launched to land people on the moon for the first time. The landing anniversary will be on Saturday. Anybody doing anything special for this event? Seems like nobody gives a damn anymore about old fashioned things like the human exploration of space.

https://www.nasa.gov/specials/apollo50th/

Some of us do. I’ve been working on recreating the BBC’s coverage of the lunar landing. When it aired, they had Arthur C Clark explaining technical aspects of what you were seeing, Pink Floyd on set improvising an ambient live soundtrack, Ian McKellen & Judy Densh presenting, with poetry and reverence for the historical moment. Since the BBC reused tapes, the complete broadcast master was wiped sometime in the 80s, but most of the footage has been found on other reels and broadcast sources, so it’s a matter of stitching it all back together and cleaning it up. The audio is of course always the problem...

 

[TheFluffyDuck]

Some of us do. I’ve been working on recreating the BBC’s coverage of the lunar landing. When it aired, they had Arthur C Clark explaining technical aspects of what you were seeing, Pink Floyd on set improvising an ambient live soundtrack, Ian McKellen & Judy Densh presenting, with poetry and reverence for the historical moment. Since the BBC reused tapes, the complete broadcast master was wiped sometime in the 80s, but most of the footage has been found on other reels and broadcast sources, so it’s a matter of stitching it all back together and cleaning it up. The audio is of course always the problem...

Thats awesome!

 

[Tigger11]

Some of us do. I’ve been working on recreating the BBC’s coverage of the lunar landing. When it aired, they had Arthur C Clark explaining technical aspects of what you were seeing, Pink Floyd on set improvising an ambient live soundtrack, Ian McKellen & Judy Densh presenting, with poetry and reverence for the historical moment. Since the BBC reused tapes, the complete broadcast master was wiped sometime in the 80s, but most of the footage has been found on other reels and broadcast sources, so it’s a matter of stitching it all back together and cleaning it up. The audio is of course always the problem...

That is really interesting, do you happen to know was Arthur C Clark living in England at that time? I am asking because when he was working on Canals on Mars I want to say, he was living in Ceylon (Sri Lanka) (honestly I really don't know which of those I am supposed to use these days), and flew some of my friends there to teach him how to use some Fractal Scene generation software for the book. Its funny just because of my interactions with him there, that my mind for some reason had him always living there, though when I think about it, obviously that isn't true. Anyways thanks for sharing, and let us know how we can see this when you are done.

 

[ucfgrad93]

Some of us do. I’ve been working on recreating the BBC’s coverage of the lunar landing. When it aired, they had Arthur C Clark explaining technical aspects of what you were seeing, Pink Floyd on set improvising an ambient live soundtrack, Ian McKellen & Judy Densh presenting, with poetry and reverence for the historical moment. Since the BBC reused tapes, the complete broadcast master was wiped sometime in the 80s, but most of the footage has been found on other reels and broadcast sources, so it’s a matter of stitching it all back together and cleaning it up. The audio is of course always the problem...

Sounds interesting.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

So now not only are you smarter then everyone on here, but you are smarter then all of Nvidia, of course they (like I did when I did that years ago) actually showed their work, you just think someone in a white reflective suit can't be a light source which is interesting to anyone who ever paid attention while taking a pictures near a reflective surface who have actually seen the effect. Literally Nvidia measured the reflection of an actual Apollo suit, you with all the built in awesome knowledge just decides its not possible. Literally you are just saying I'm VKD, believe me rather than knowledge, physics or math, sorry but I just don't see the credentials there to believe you over literally 1000s who are smarter and better educated.



We were months behind literally, the Russians launched Sputnik, we put Explorer 1 up less than 4 months later and it discovered the Van Allen Belts. They launch Yuri as the first person in space on April 12, 1961 less than a month (May 5, 1961) later Alan Shepard becomes the first american in space. On March 18, 1965 the Russians did the first space walk, literally this is the last important manned record for the Russians until after Apollo. Less than 3 months later the Americans would carry out their first space walk on June 3, 1965. Now Gemini 5-12 set bunch of firsts for manned space flight and all the while we are building the Saturn V which we eventually build 15 of, plus the test articles. The Saturn V worked (the Russian N1 did not), in fact the first manned launch of the Saturn V, was Apollo 8, and that one orbited the moon. We would launch two more Saturn V's to test out the LM, first in Earth orbit and then in Lunar orbit, then we were ready for Apollo 11, we landed the LM and the first two of an eventual twelve astronauts walked on the moon. That is what happened in the real world, you still haven't explained how we tricked the Russians that we went to the moon 9 times (and everyone else), how the other space powers have seen Apollo spacecraft on the moon, etc. If you want to argue, come up with one explanation for the evidence which for 50 years has shown your side to be wrong.
-Tig

During the glasnost period, (late 80s-early 90s) quite a number of interesting historical documentaries were made in or about Russia (then, still the USSR but glasnost stretched into the early Yeltsin years after the USSR itself had imploded), or about Russia/USSR, as access to primary sources and documentary material had become more readily available.

One of these that I saw at that time was a fascinating documentary about Sergei Korolev, who was essentially the father of the Soviet space programme.

It s not a coincidence that Russian primacy in space (until after Apollo) ended in 1965, for Korolev died in January 1966 (partly as a result of ill health brought about from the time he had been imprisoned during Stalin's purges in the 1930s).

 

[decafjava]

2) the cold war backstory and how USA was always behind USSR who already sent the first artificial object into space, the first dog, the first man and woman... and USA, nothing. in fact, NASA was having accidents and disasters.

Why didn't the Soviets expose this hoax? They must have known.

In fact they monitored the landing by radio, and yes they could tell where the transmissions came from.

They even modified the course of one of their probes to not interfere with the landing.

https://www.rt.com/news/i-armstrong-bouncing-moon/

This was Aleksey Leonov first man to walk in space.

Answer this one question why would he lie? Why would the Soviets lie when it would have hurt the US? Why would RT of all news services publish this??

 

[decafjava]

Why didn't the Soviets expose this hoax? They must have known.

In fact they monitored the landing by radio, and yes they could tell where the transmissions came from.

They even modified the course of one of their probes to not interfere with the landing.

https://www.rt.com/news/i-armstrong-bouncing-moon/

This was Aleksey Leonov first man to walk in space.

Answer this one question why would he lie? Why would the Soviets lie when it would have hurt the US? Why would RT of all news services publish this??

So @vkd no answer for this?