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It still qualifies as anecdotal evidence because according to polls right here on MR taken at the time of preordering, the demand for the 6+ and 6 among members was split evenly at 50:50. Given this along with the more posts from members with 6+ (which was limited in supply) who had second thoughts about it compared to members with 6 (more plentiful in supply), this carries more weight than just dismissing it as statistically meaningless.

It's still not "real statistics," but if it were the other way around (more posts from members with the easier-to-get iPhone 6 having buyers remorse and wanted the 6+, which is constrained in supply), I'd be more inclined to say it's statistically meaningless.
Do you realize that 50 or even 100 posts on MR compared with several millions sold IS statistically irrelevant ?

MR isn't real world. Actually any tech forum like this is very different from real world.
 
Do you realize that 50 or even 100 posts on MR compared with several millions sold IS statistically irrelevant ?

MR isn't real world. Actually any tech forum like this is very different from real world.

Comparing to real world is irrelevant. If polls on here say MR members are split evenly in wanting the 6 vs. 6+ and we subsequently get more posts from 6+ members who had buyers remorse, especially given the 6+ supply constraints, you can't just dismiss this anecdotal evidence.
 
Fine. I didn't read any article about an higher than usual return rate for iPhone 6+, so I was wondering if you had different informations.
I'm not taking this forum as a reliable representation of real life: people here tend to complain about everything and keep returning iDevices at an incredible high rate.

What would be a "usual return rate"?

I suspect people are doing what they have always done and returned and exchanged at will. Having two different size iPhones introduced at the same time has likely cause a little extra return.

Forums like this are responsible for many Apple returns.
 
I agree. 6 inches is probably the sweet spot for large, large, phones. Assuming of course the bezels are reasonably small. The iphone with the current bezels at 6 inches would be crazy.

Look at the nexus 6 though, nearly 6 inch screen and a footprint not much larger than the 6 plus. Still fits in almost all pockets too. Gives you the most screen space while still being able to be used as a phone and pocketed. To me that's about perfect for a really large phone.
 
I agree. 6 inches is probably the sweet spot for large, large, phones. Assuming of course the bezels are reasonably small. The iphone with the current bezels at 6 inches would be crazy.

Look at the nexus 6 though, nearly 6 inch screen and a footprint not much larger than the 6 plus. Still fits in almost all pockets too. Gives you the most screen space while still being able to be used as a phone and pocketed. To me that's about perfect for a really large phone.

Apple needs to be brave and tackle those bezels. I'd much rather have the extra screen space.

Not just that, from a design POV, they're ugly.
 
hell no....no thanx! You can switch on the phone functionality on your Air 2 if you prefer; this way you have all the screen size for gaming & everything else.;)
 
Do you realize that 50 or even 100 posts on MR compared with several millions sold IS statistically irrelevant ?

Based on what you are saying I believe that is "Anecdotal - not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research".
 
If they sacrificed the bezels they love so much, I'm sure a 5.7" screen would be absolutely fine.
 
if it werent for imessage, itunes and continuity (text, imessage and call forwarding) i would have switched to nexus 6 for this reason - choice.
 
Famous. Last. Words.

There's a practical limit to how big a personal communications device can be. My hands are pretty big, and the 6+ is the upper limit in usability for me as a practical phone. And we're starting to see that as the case on an engineering and ergonomic scale too: people having trouble keeping a grip on the thing, and bendgate with people's insistence that they be able to stuff this absurdly big phablet into their skinny jeans and still have it come out okay.


If the 6+ big enough, Apple already sells a device for your needs: it's called the iPad Mini.
 
Was super chuffed when the 6+ was released (stopped me from going over to Samsung for a phablet), and for a while I was loving it, it's so nearly perfect for me as an all-in-one device. I can browse on it for hours happily, I love reading and watching videos on it, and since I've gotten it, I've devoured loads of books at a pace I wasn't doing for years.

Recently, when doing a it of gaming on it, I've realised it's still just a little bit on the small side. For me at least, I think a 5.7inch 6+ would be the dream now. I could still live with it, still pocket it and it'd make everything just a little bit better. There is a point where size does become obtrusive for daily life, but I think now after more experience with a larger device, that that size is probably somewhere over a 6 inch screen.

FWIW, I don't have any issues with using the screen or anything. Just feels like a smartphone.

I really thought there's no way I'd upgrade again for at least another 4/5 years (I keep things I buy for a long time), but I think I would upgrade if Apple released a 5.7inch phone in a couple of years and stick to that instead.

Anyway, haven't posted here in ages, so hope everyone's enjoying their new phones :)

Feel the same way. The + doesn't feel big at all, it just feels like a phone. it may just be a matter of having gotten used to it, I don't know. But at the moment I would definitely dig a bigger display.
 
hell no....no thanx! You can switch on the phone functionality on your Air 2 if you prefer; this way you have all the screen size for gaming & everything else.;)

ME: I'd like a 5.7inch iPhone in a couple of years.
YOU: Buy a 13.3inch Laptop and use it as a phone.


If the 6+ big enough, Apple already sells a device for your needs: it's called the iPad Mini.

ME: I'd like a 5.7inch iPhone in a couple of years.
YOU: Buy a 7.9inch iPad Mini.

Feel the same way. The + doesn't feel big at all, it just feels like a phone. it may just be a matter of having gotten used to it, I don't know. But at the moment I would definitely dig a bigger display.

Yeah, everyone's getting used to larger sizes at the moment and as soon as they're acclimatised many will be ready to move up again also. Some folk just can't see past their nose. My girlfriend has tiny Asian hands and she has the 6, but is starting to want a 6+.

If Apple made a 5.7 or 6inch all the naysayers would be the first to say how it's the best thing ever and is the perfect size. Hold out for a few product cycles and you'll see them bleat here on MR :D
 
5.5" is already pushing it, but if Apple can make the bezel A LOT smaller and up it to 5.7" in a few years, then that's fine with me. I don't have a problem with the Note 4 size. The LG G3 5.5" compared to the iPhone 6+ 5.5" is totally different. :(
 
Microsoft (Nokia) has shown that you can make a 6" phone that is thin and manageable. While "bigger," the Nokia 1520 is nearly identical in size to the 6+ but with a screen that is 1/2" bigger.

Smaller bezels (or none at all as some Lumia phones are moving to on the bottom) ....and imagine how small the top one could be if it just need to house openings for the ear piece, front facing camera and light sensor.

On-screen controls are already here and I'm sure Apple will make them the best...probably even an area at the bottom of the screen to still scan fingerprints.

Just glad the 6+ finally came out. Since buying a 1520 a year ago just for the hell of it, I got used to the big screen and couldn't even type on my old iPhone 5.
 
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Get rid of the bezels

All screen virtual buttons , that is where the iPhone 7 will be in 2016.
 
Feel the same way. The + doesn't feel big at all, it just feels like a phone. it may just be a matter of having gotten used to it, I don't know. But at the moment I would definitely dig a bigger display.

Same here. I love my 6+ and have completely gotten used to it as the "normal" iPhone experience. My Mother-in-Law needed me to help her with her 4S the other day. Oh my, when I picked it up after using the 6+ for almost two months, I was blown away by how truly small that phone was. For people who place a premium on small size, the 4S really was the pinnacle of "small but powerful". Despite the fact that I fall squarely in the "bigger is better" camp and love my 6+, I think Apple made a mistake not maintaining something in the 5/5S size. Not everyone values screen size above footprint / form factor.
 
Apple can not go any bigger and still call the 6+ a phone, they could maybe shrink the bezels and cram a bigger screen in though.
 
Apple can not go any bigger and still call the 6+ a phone

Oh is that right, Mr Fallacy?

(check his signature :D)

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All screen virtual buttons , that is where the iPhone 7 will be in 2016.

Mmm. Will be interesting to see how Apple deals with the Home button. They've become so reliant on it that it must feel like an Albatross around their neck now.

Hope you're right for 2016, might take them an iteration after that though.

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I would welcome a more compact 6+ but I am not begging for a bigger screen.

You can get a more compact 6+ already :D

http://store.apple.com/uk/buy-iphone/iphone6
 
There's nothing wrong with a 5.7" phone, but the 6+ is already too big. If they reduced the size of the enormous bezels, they could probably fit a 5.7" display in a smaller phone.
 
I think you're going to be in the minority on that opinion. Its my opinion based on what I see here, a number of people bought the IP6+ returned it, because they felt its just too large. Others like myself are content with the model but don't want anything larger.

Samsung does make (or did) a larger phablet, perhaps that is something more to your liking.

I think if Apple was able to enlarge the screen size but either keep the same product dimensions or even reduce the overall product size (think reducing top and bottom bezels) then people would be interested in going larger. I think the main issue with the size of the 6+ is the overall product size, not the screen. I wish the top bezel was smaller since there is no need for it to be that big. When going back to use my older iP5, it feels so tiny now compared to my iP6+.

I for one though am happy with my 6+ and use it daily for most things. I use to take my iPad rMini with me a lot to use since I hated using the iP5 for reading books, surfing the internet, watching videos, etc... I do a lot of that on my 6+ now so I am looking to do something with the rMini (either recycle to one of my kids or sell and get a cheaper tablet for my basic tablet needs).
 
I bet apple will have fold-able phone with two screens one 5.5" on outside and
10" on inside.
 
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