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I know with more storage and keeping all your data on iCloud, this helps but in my case I currently have a 7 plus 128 I have 75gb used of which 20gb is whatsapp even though it saves in icloud, pics set to optimizes storage, 16gb icloud drive 24gb backup. So what is taking all this extra space? I thought this whole issue with "other" went away with the new file system.

The setting up as new is horrible because you lose all your text messages but not sure, how can someone use 64gb and have a huge icloud setup? Is this possible?
 
To be fair you still have a lot of space left so there is no reason for the phone to delete unused or old data. If you only had a 64 gb model you probably wouldn't have as much storage being taken up by whatsapp and your pictures
 
64Gb is the new 32gb. It's not enough. I have over 65Gb of music on my 256Gb phone. I know, I know...I should embrace icloud and streaming but I can't let go of having the music permanently on a device.
 
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I have the same phone - 7+ with 128 GB. I was using about the same amount of storage and wondering if I could get by with the 64 X. After installing iOS 11 I could see where a lot of the storage was being used. I removed some movies I had stored locally (Deadpool, Rogue One, Captain America 3...) went through the list of Apps and removed anything I don't use that often or at all (Garage Band, Keynote, Pages). I set my text messages to keep for 1 year (from forever), enable the Offload Unused Apps, Reviewed the Large Attachment and got my usage down to 29.4 GB. I only have 5.42 GB of photos and 2.15 GB of Music but with another 35 GB to spare, a 64 GB X is doable.
 
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I know with more storage and keeping all your data on iCloud, this helps but in my case I currently have a 7 plus 128 I have 75gb used of which 20gb is whatsapp even though it saves in icloud, pics set to optimizes storage, 16gb icloud drive 24gb backup. So what is taking all this extra space? I thought this whole issue with "other" went away with the new file system.

The setting up as new is horrible because you lose all your text messages but not sure, how can someone use 64gb and have a huge icloud setup? Is this possible?

For WhatsApp:
Ensure on-board storage is NOT used for media ... let THEIR servers host media shared.

Cloud Services:
iCloud best for backup and only use Applications that benefit from backing up to icloud IF and only IF they dont' offer their own services for free.

Mega!
50 GB Free data storage in the cloud ... ALL the TIME, no dumb 1/2yr trial business like Box/DropBox ... no need to refer to get more storage either.

Drop Box

Box.net

etc. all of these allow you to export Photos (pics/videos) to the Cloud for easy retrieval. Once they've synced then you can purge local storage. Also check Settings for compression of personal media

Apps/Games:
So many people have tons still on their iOS devices that they really don't even use/launch anymore for over months and have just forgotten about it. Don't be a pack-rat ... DELETE unused/unwanted items.
 
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64Gb is the new 32gb. It's not enough. I have over 65Gb of music on my 256Gb phone. I know, I know...I should embrace icloud and streaming but I can't let go of having the music permanently on a device.

37+ days worth of music on your phone seems like a lot.
(My math - My 2.15 = 512 songs. Your 65 / 2.15 = 20.2325 times as many songs or approximately 15,480 songs. Guessing an average song length of 3m30s which would give you 54,180 minutes or 37.625 days.)
 
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Even with the larger iTunes files, I still keep most movies either on my iMac or in my iTunes account. I do not text and often delete photos after I import them to my Mac, so 64gb is fine for my needs. I have around 92gb free from my 7+ 128.

And I do not really text all that much, so no worries there.
 
37+ days worth of music on your phone seems like a lot.
(My math - My 2.15 = 512 songs. Your 65 / 2.15 = 20.2325 times as many songs or approximately 15,480 songs. Guessing an average song length of 3m30s which would give you 54,180 minutes or 37.625 days.)


It's a form of OCD I guess. You're right, I could simply manage it from itunes/sync and stick on what I need but for some inane reason I like to have everything to hand.
 
As a proud father/grandfather I have about 20,000 pictures taken over 50 years. I purchased a Western Digital MyCloud that holds all of my photos and music, 3 TB capacity. I have an iPhone 7 with 32 GB with 16 GB available. Access has been very reliable regardless of location.
 
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I have a 64gb iPhone 6S. 50gb being used, the rest is in iCloud. I've never come close to filling it up thanks to iCloud offloading pics and videos. Also keeping my phone minimal helps of course (don't keep apps you use once in a blue moon, only keep music you actually listen to downloaded for offline play, etc).
 
18.1GB in use on a 64GB i8.

Like others have pointed out, I culled things off the phone with the thought process of "when did I last [use | listen | view] this".

Music, have tons of it, but rarely listen to it in the car. And to be honest, alot of it is dreck ("what was I thinking when I bought THAT?!"). Music is in iTune Music cloud, I have about 10 playlists of stuff I would listen to and can download to phone when on road trip and or will have others in the car.

Podcasts are my go-to audio of choice, and I have tons of those on my Mac (backlogged). I have a playlist on Mac iTunes that I use to sync a month's worth of podcasts onto the phone, so only a few GB eaten by this.

Pictures work same. I have a few currated albums of family, friends, etc. If a picture taken on phone is a keeper, that gets synced to Mac and backed up via TimeMachine, to a cloud account, and a couple of HDs I use for manual backup. Might put an album of other pics on the phone, if going to show friends, but will delete after a few weeks as odds of needing to show those goes rapidly down over time. Usually post pics to cloud account/service. Phone is not my main shooter, so camera does not fill up with pics.

Dropbox to store files I might want access to, and use their app's offline feature to store the "important" stuff locally.

I don't download every app I hear about. Actually, only go looking for apps when I need something to get task X done and nothing working that I currently have access to. If I get a freebie, will downlosd, but will also delete off device if I find that useful but not going to see frequent use.

Don't keep texts around: how important is a convo of "Wassup? Grab a beer?", "k". Again, a piece of data that has a lifecycle: important today, down the road, will/need to reference 1, 2, 6 months from now?
 
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For WhatsApp:
Ensure on-board storage is NOT used for media ... let THEIR servers host media shared.

Cloud Services:
iCloud best for backup and only use Applications that benefit from backing up to icloud IF and only IF they dont' offer their own services for free.

Mega!
50 GB Free data storage in the cloud ... ALL the TIME, no dumb 1/2yr trial business like Box/DropBox ... no need to refer to get more storage either.

Drop Box

Box.net

etc. all of these allow you to export Photos (pics/videos) to the Cloud for easy retrieval. Once they've synced then you can purge local storage. Also check Settings for compression of personal media

Apps/Games:
So many people have tons still on their iOS devices that they really don't even use/launch anymore for over months and have just forgotten about it. Don't be a pack-rat ... DELETE unused/unwanted items.

I'm the opposite. I keep as much as possible accessible offline, rather than pay extra for data to access it. I find this pays for the memory upgrade many times over per device. As always, YMMV.
 
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I honestly don’t know what you’d need all that space for unless you have a bunch of large games or videos. I’m only using 19.5 GB on my iPhone (7.2 GB could be removed if I didn’t keep my Spotify library downloaded), 15.4 GB on my iPad, 9.2 GB in iCloud. Keep in mind, a lot of the apps on my iPhone and iPad are duplicates too, so total sum of data is less than just adding those numbers together. I do use OneDrive for school documents, but those should only be a few KB in size each since they’re just text. 64GB is plenty for me.
 
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It’s been great. Going iOS only for my computing needs has made things a whole lot simpler.
Yeah. Switched to Mac/iOS only years back when I retired from the Motorola Modding scene and never looked back. Only use 10 Pro for slight work related stuff. (SLIGHT)
 
I'm the opposite. I keep as much as possible accessible offline, rather than pay extra for data to access it. I find this pays for the memory upgrade many times over per device. As always, YMMV.


You completely missed my point.

I did say services which you would NOT pay for backing up in the cloud, copy such data here.

Also, for the same data that you access it’s usually in 3 main locations: on device(s), in the cloud, or on a computer (really 2 devices since a Oc/Mac is a device).

Next consider just how many times you access over 40% of your personal data? If it’s very high or we add those in your family or friends over multiple devices, the benefits to using “offline” deminishes significantly for each recall, reuse, sharif or editing. Most importantly when editing many times you’d like to have the original but manually you’ll always need to make a backup.

Consider iClouds’ Documents in the cloud or Memos ability to lock notes, as well as OSX/iOS hand-off and similar services many of which you probably already use yet take for granted. This isn’t the same like uploading music to a cloud service or streaming a channel of music ... where he original content is overwritten without notification or replaced or several tracks that just don’t match your taste in a particular artist collaboration or genre etc. What I’m explaining is STILL your original data.

Either way to get your data, backup your data “offline” as you say you’re limited to
A) wired connections to your 90’s type digital hub,
B) risking corruption and deletion (internal storage crushed by dropped phone run over by a car/van/truck cause well you don’t have that nights event pictures and videos uploaded to a cloud. Heaven forbid a loved family member had passed and you recorded such memorable moments and such a mishap above mentioned occurs on the way home.
C) you’re already paying for Data on service provider and more than likely using free hotspots from Starbucks, PizzaPizza, Tim Hortons, McDonald’s, sports bar, Library etc .... so why not take advantage of previous post mentioned free o line cloud services to manage the limited on device “offline” storage you have? Hmmm ;)
 
Each person has his/her own needs.
I frequently maxed out my 32GB iPhone 5. So I bought a 64GB 6S. Even today, I still have about 30GB free, and I already put in the music and podcasts that I need and many apps. The only thing I didn’t do is capture videos at 4K (I do t have any 4K TVs). I don’t put movies in since I have an iPad for that.
 
I keep some of my old devices and anyway never put all my data on any of them. I like to have an assortment of music, TV shows, podcasts, movies locally available so I usually have at least an iPod touch or iPad along for the ride when I travel, besides an iPhone and maybe my nano that has an FM radio in it.
 
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