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6G iPod User Interface Redesign and Videos
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Quite honestly I like it, and it could be real.
Yet it just seems pointless. The iPod's interface could use a little update, but it's just so easy to use. As much as this cou be real, it just seems like Apple would have made it a little be easier to use. I'm not saying it looks hard, but it's certainly not as smooth/consistant as the current iPod interface.
Yet it just seems pointless. The iPod's interface could use a little update, but it's just so easy to use. As much as this cou be real, it just seems like Apple would have made it a little be easier to use. I'm not saying it looks hard, but it's certainly not as smooth/consistant as the current iPod interface.
If this really is the interface of the new ipod, and it's that midget thing that was posted a while ago then this will probably be the first ipod generation that I won't own. I do hope that if this is the case, that they offer firmware updates for the 5th gen to get some of the features shown.
Well I am not a master or flash man. But I hope you are all right about this being fake... I have been waiting it seems like 2 FREAKIN YEARS for a Widescreen iPod, and if they pull this, as huge of an Apple fan I am, I have to say i will be pretty PISSED!!! The thing that scares me is the point of the scroll wheel iPod games which i think is a point, and Apple not wanting to canibalize the iPhone. On the other hand, what gives me hope is that order for the multi-touch screens that was placed. Those have to be for the iPod.
By the way... if they make an iPhone Nano with a scroll wheel, I think that will be stupid. Not to mention how many versions of OS X do we really think Apple has made for crying out loud LOL??? All these different kinds of iPods and iPhones that people are talking are different and would have delayed Leopard even more I'm sure.
You people that think the 6G iPod will be an iPhone without the phone seriously need to get your heads checked. Your telling me that if you ran Apple you would make that kind of a business decision??? There is NO WAY IN HELL Apple will make the 6G iPod like that LOL, it would be HORRIBLE for the iPhone. I hope you guys are never the C.E.O. of an important company lol. And even if you were the board would never let you make decisions that stupid and vote you out
Here's what I'd do ya genius. I'd release the iPhone first, many many months first. Then, I'd release the phoneless iPod just like it. But it would have a hard drive instead and 80 gigs. It would cost, $499. There would be perhaps a 40gig or a 8gig flash version for $399 or $450 or something. Then you look at it as, hey $100 bucks more and I've got the better phone!
They may not even have to go that high in price point. It can be done. If that's what they want to do it can be done without cannibalizing the iPhone sales.
What about profit margin?
I think profit margin is the determining factor in whether or not the next gen iPod will have a touch screen or not. How much does the touch screen cost? Is that the biggest cost of the iPhone or is it other technologies? (I really don't know) I think they've got near 50% profit margin on most of their products, unless I'm mistaken.
If they can make a new iPod at the same price points and increase their profit margins at the expense of a touch screen, then I believe they will do so. If the touch screen does not drive the cost up (i.e., smaller profits) then they will incorporate it. It seems to me a financial decision at this point and has nothing to do with cannibalizing iPhone sales or moving the iPod technology forward. Until their profits drop on the current iPod design, there is no reason changing anything radical unless their market-share is in jeopardy. Look at the mobile computer market. Has the MBP design changed significantly since the aluminum powerbooks? Eliminating 12" laptops and having the consumer line all one size was more of a financial decision than an esthetic one I believe.
Never forget Apple wants to make money - and they've done that very well. Something stock holders like too
I think profit margin is the determining factor in whether or not the next gen iPod will have a touch screen or not. How much does the touch screen cost? Is that the biggest cost of the iPhone or is it other technologies? (I really don't know) I think they've got near 50% profit margin on most of their products, unless I'm mistaken.
If they can make a new iPod at the same price points and increase their profit margins at the expense of a touch screen, then I believe they will do so. If the touch screen does not drive the cost up (i.e., smaller profits) then they will incorporate it. It seems to me a financial decision at this point and has nothing to do with cannibalizing iPhone sales or moving the iPod technology forward. Until their profits drop on the current iPod design, there is no reason changing anything radical unless their market-share is in jeopardy. Look at the mobile computer market. Has the MBP design changed significantly since the aluminum powerbooks? Eliminating 12" laptops and having the consumer line all one size was more of a financial decision than an esthetic one I believe.
Never forget Apple wants to make money - and they've done that very well. Something stock holders like too
I wasn't trying to speak toward it being AM or PM, since there's really no way to tell, just that the text time in the label doesn't match the visual analog clock. It's an hour off.
I was just curious about how large the menus are compared to the real iPod. So I put the video file on my iPod and played it, then navigated the menus. I took photos of both. [Sorry they're gone.]
In the comparison attached you can see the differences in fonts, width of the bars and menus etc.
I personally think this is fake, but it does look very nice. That doesn't mean I don't like it, it's a very nice fake to whoever created it. Also I noticed, the video files are different, two are .mov files, and one is a .mp4 file.
In the comparison attached you can see the differences in fonts, width of the bars and menus etc.
I personally think this is fake, but it does look very nice. That doesn't mean I don't like it, it's a very nice fake to whoever created it.
Also I noticed, the video files are different, two are .mov files, and one is a .mp4 file. 
Is this is real then it's a real shame.
I'm REALLY hoping Apple will add the touch-interface to the 6G iPod and do away with the clickwheel. I like the iPhone a lot but I can't see myself ditching a 30Gb iPod for an 8Gb model just because the touch interface is easier to use in a car and it's desperately crying out for a large screen.
My money is on a multi-touch iPod. The click-wheel will stay for the nanos.
I'm REALLY hoping Apple will add the touch-interface to the 6G iPod and do away with the clickwheel. I like the iPhone a lot but I can't see myself ditching a 30Gb iPod for an 8Gb model just because the touch interface is easier to use in a car and it's desperately crying out for a large screen.
My money is on a multi-touch iPod. The click-wheel will stay for the nanos.
Not Real
Indeed. This video would be easy to fake in the new FinalCut Pro Suite. Motion comes to mind as the application used. At least they stuck to an Apple product to create the fake.
August 7 sound a bit too soon. Maybe touchscreen by Christmas, when the iPhone hysteria will have settled down into a mass movement.
Indeed. This video would be easy to fake in the new FinalCut Pro Suite. Motion comes to mind as the application used. At least they stuck to an Apple product to create the fake.
August 7 sound a bit too soon. Maybe touchscreen by Christmas, when the iPhone hysteria will have settled down into a mass movement.
Great Read from John Gruber
Wanted to post this great article from John Gruber of Daringfireball.net . Thought it quite appropriate....
Regarding OS X-Based iPods
by John Gruber
Friday, 13 July 2007
Two things have stuck with me from Steve Jobss big day-before-iPhone-launch address to all Apple employees. The first is that he admitted that Apple is working on OS X-based iPods.
Its a little unusual for Jobs to reveal any information at all about future products, but in this case, its hard to see how it could be considered a secret. The basic original iPod form factor and software UI is great it will deservedly be remembered as one of the best-designed consumer electronic products in history. But if youve used, or even seen, the iPod app on an iPhone, you know that its old news. Its impossible to get excited about any new iPod that is less than the iPhone iPod app. As for rumors that new iPods are scheduled to debut this fall, thats sort of like predicting that Christmas is coming in December. In fact, its the same prediction Apple has been rolling out new iPods a few months before Christmas every year, for the obvious reason that they sell tens of millions of them as Christmas gifts.
Last years new iPods were rather pedestrian upgrades. Especially the hard-drives based models, which really only offered a handful of new software features compared to the original fifth-generation models that debuted in 2005.
The argument against OS X-based iPods debuting this fall is that Apple wouldnt want to offer something that distracts from the iPhone yet. But whats the alternative? To let the iPod a brand worth billions of dollars languish?
This brings me to the second notable remark from Jobss company-wide address. Taking questions from the audience, Jobs was asked if he was concerned that the iPhone would cannibalize sales of iPods. Jobs replied that if anyone was going to cannibalize iPod sales, it better be Apple itself.
This is the defining characteristic of Apple as a company, today: They replace their hit products while theyre still on top. Rather than building a lead over their competition and sitting on it, they just keep building. The best example of this was the introduction of the original iPod Nano. At the time, the best-selling iPods were the Minis. The iPod Mini was a smash hit product.
And when Apple debuted the Nano, they killed it.
Most companies wouldnt even consider killing a product like the iPod Mini while it was still a best-seller; instead, they milk hit products for all theyre worth and ride them out for years. (Exhibit A: Motorolas Razr.) One thing Apple could have done, but didnt, was continue to sell iPod Minis alongside the Nanos. Apple treats its product line-up like a product itself it is designed to be obvious and easy to understand.
Choosing which iPod to buy is easy: Do you want to carry a huge library and/or play video? Get a regular iPod. Do you just want something small to play music? Buy an iPod Nano. Want something tiny and inexpensive? Get the Shuffle. No matter how risky it might have been to kill the iPod Mini while it was still the best-selling iPod, there just wasnt room for it in the line-up alongside the Nano.
(Compare and contrast to Verizon Wireless, whose chief marketing officer brags that they offer 18 different music-playing phones.)
The reason some people are skeptical about Apple introducing OS X-based iPods this year is that the question about cannibalizing sales works both ways: an iPhone-ish OS X-based iPod would surely have some detrimental effect on iPhone sales. AT&T might care about that, but why would Apple?
The simple truth is that the iPhone user experience doesnt just blow away the experience of other companies cell phones it blows away the experience of Apples own iPods. The biggest question, as I see it, is whether Apple plans to introduce iPods that are more or less just the iPod app from the iPhone (i.e. just music and video players), or iPods that are everything but phones, with Wi-Fi networking for email, web, and more.
Articlet Link
Wanted to post this great article from John Gruber of Daringfireball.net . Thought it quite appropriate....
Regarding OS X-Based iPods
by John Gruber
Friday, 13 July 2007
Two things have stuck with me from Steve Jobss big day-before-iPhone-launch address to all Apple employees. The first is that he admitted that Apple is working on OS X-based iPods.
Its a little unusual for Jobs to reveal any information at all about future products, but in this case, its hard to see how it could be considered a secret. The basic original iPod form factor and software UI is great it will deservedly be remembered as one of the best-designed consumer electronic products in history. But if youve used, or even seen, the iPod app on an iPhone, you know that its old news. Its impossible to get excited about any new iPod that is less than the iPhone iPod app. As for rumors that new iPods are scheduled to debut this fall, thats sort of like predicting that Christmas is coming in December. In fact, its the same prediction Apple has been rolling out new iPods a few months before Christmas every year, for the obvious reason that they sell tens of millions of them as Christmas gifts.
Last years new iPods were rather pedestrian upgrades. Especially the hard-drives based models, which really only offered a handful of new software features compared to the original fifth-generation models that debuted in 2005.
The argument against OS X-based iPods debuting this fall is that Apple wouldnt want to offer something that distracts from the iPhone yet. But whats the alternative? To let the iPod a brand worth billions of dollars languish?
This brings me to the second notable remark from Jobss company-wide address. Taking questions from the audience, Jobs was asked if he was concerned that the iPhone would cannibalize sales of iPods. Jobs replied that if anyone was going to cannibalize iPod sales, it better be Apple itself.
This is the defining characteristic of Apple as a company, today: They replace their hit products while theyre still on top. Rather than building a lead over their competition and sitting on it, they just keep building. The best example of this was the introduction of the original iPod Nano. At the time, the best-selling iPods were the Minis. The iPod Mini was a smash hit product.
And when Apple debuted the Nano, they killed it.
Most companies wouldnt even consider killing a product like the iPod Mini while it was still a best-seller; instead, they milk hit products for all theyre worth and ride them out for years. (Exhibit A: Motorolas Razr.) One thing Apple could have done, but didnt, was continue to sell iPod Minis alongside the Nanos. Apple treats its product line-up like a product itself it is designed to be obvious and easy to understand.
Choosing which iPod to buy is easy: Do you want to carry a huge library and/or play video? Get a regular iPod. Do you just want something small to play music? Buy an iPod Nano. Want something tiny and inexpensive? Get the Shuffle. No matter how risky it might have been to kill the iPod Mini while it was still the best-selling iPod, there just wasnt room for it in the line-up alongside the Nano.
(Compare and contrast to Verizon Wireless, whose chief marketing officer brags that they offer 18 different music-playing phones.)
The reason some people are skeptical about Apple introducing OS X-based iPods this year is that the question about cannibalizing sales works both ways: an iPhone-ish OS X-based iPod would surely have some detrimental effect on iPhone sales. AT&T might care about that, but why would Apple?
The simple truth is that the iPhone user experience doesnt just blow away the experience of other companies cell phones it blows away the experience of Apples own iPods. The biggest question, as I see it, is whether Apple plans to introduce iPods that are more or less just the iPod app from the iPhone (i.e. just music and video players), or iPods that are everything but phones, with Wi-Fi networking for email, web, and more.
Articlet Link
'Tis a fake, but ....
It looks cool. I like the moving backgrounds ... 'a la Leopard?!
However I would like to see the iPod stay iPodish for a while and turn the clickwheel into a trackpad that can do all of the things that multi-touch can do and yet have a backlit glow of the wheel when needed.
Also of course a widescreen iPod webnavigator (iPhone without phone) would be nice by Christmas.
It looks cool. I like the moving backgrounds ... 'a la Leopard?!
However I would like to see the iPod stay iPodish for a while and turn the clickwheel into a trackpad that can do all of the things that multi-touch can do and yet have a backlit glow of the wheel when needed.
Also of course a widescreen iPod webnavigator (iPhone without phone) would be nice by Christmas.
It also doesn't make sense that Apple would release a new iPod generation while in the middle of the college Mac + iPod promotion ending September 16th.
Historically it seems they have waited until after this type of promo has ended to release a new iteration.
Historically it seems they have waited until after this type of promo has ended to release a new iteration.
fake, fake, fake, fake, and fake
It's obviously fake. You can tell its fake for many reasons. The most obvious to me is in the world clock. When you see both clocks together, one of the "second" hands is in a different position that the other clock.
quite amusing though.
It's obviously fake. You can tell its fake for many reasons. The most obvious to me is in the world clock. When you see both clocks together, one of the "second" hands is in a different position that the other clock.
quite amusing though.
what ever they end up releasing I hope they do release it on august 7, thats my birthday and it would be perfect timing, I need a new ipod and I'll be getting alot of birthday money that day.
*fingers crossed*
*fingers crossed*
two are .mov files, and one is a .mp4 file.
One was probably an mp4 so the faker could put the "interface" on his iPod and make it look like he had it.
Crisis averted
While I agree an iPod that is basically an iPhone without the phone may cannibalize sales, can you tell me how Apple can improve the iPod any further?
Better battery life? More storage? Lower price? I wouldn't calls that a 6G iPod...
Whatever the 6G iPod brings us, it has to be fresh and amazing. I haven't seen any improvements to PMP's from reading Engadget, so this is a good time for Apple to shake up the market again with a redesigned iPod.
Better battery life? More storage? Lower price? I wouldn't calls that a 6G iPod...
Whatever the 6G iPod brings us, it has to be fresh and amazing. I haven't seen any improvements to PMP's from reading Engadget, so this is a good time for Apple to shake up the market again with a redesigned iPod.
Good article. It's so true as well. When I read "click wheel" regarding an iPod I get a very big wash of disappointment. The iPhone interface looks amazing (haven't yet seen one, it sucks being Canadian at times) and everyone seems ot rave about it. A full-pull touch-screen iPod is what I wanna buy. If Apple just releases a prettier GUI on the same old 5/5.5G iPod then screw them. I won't upgrade. But if they come out with something actually worth my forking out more of my cash for....then my Visa is ready and willing
Doesn't mean they couldn't pull an iPhone-like move by announcing it first and shipping it later.
I don't think a fullscreen touch iPod would cannibalize iPhone sales much. If anything, it would've made more sense to apply the technology to iPods first, since they sell much better than iPhones, and then release a touch iPhone. Two different markets. One is a phone and has very little storage space and the other is a media player and has tons of storage space. Also, price. People who want an 80 GB touchscreen media player weren't going to buy an 600-dollar phone in the first place. It just doesn't make sense.
Bring on the touchscreen iPod!
Bring on the touchscreen iPod!