Music, 22%, background activity. That's hardly using the device except for listening to music.
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6S - Improved Battery?
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22% of two day battery life isn't as small as you think.
62% Safari.
Texting and checking emails.
That's moderate use.
I've enjoyed pretty good battery life on my 6 based on my usage.
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Thanks for all those facts, joe but it does not change the fact that most will not last two days with moderate use.
Well, there are a lot of things that can be done to extend battery life which many people may not be aware of. One thing I've noticed is that signal strength makes a huge difference. I'm enjoying some time off work right now so I'm spending a lot of time around the house where I have very good wi-fi and cellular signals. At work, where I probably use my phone less because, well, I'm working, the battery seems to drain a LOT faster. The cellular signal in my office is pretty weak, and everything the phone does (even standby) seems to draw noticeably more power.
Other things like turning off "push" notifications (especially if you have multiple mail accounts, as well as background app refresh, and limiting the scope of spotlight search (not as much power goes into indexing everything on the phone), and obvious things like using auto screen brightness really help.
My example above is particularly good since my usage was pretty light, but even with more moderate usage, I usually get 8-10 hours of use plus 1.5 -2 days of standby.
Could I ask you why plugging your phone in while you sleep is a problem. Most users do not want to "jump through hoops" to stretch their iPhone battery life. Just plug it in when you sleep and wake up ready to go.
I never said it was a problem, and none of these "hoops" inconvenience me in the slightest. I've simply optimized my phone for efficient energy use. It's worth mentioning though that the overall lifespan of your battery is tied to how many recharge cycles it goes through, so it's certainly good for the longevity if you only go through a recharge cycle every two days or even day and a half compared to every single day. It may not matter to those who upgrade every year, but if you want to keep your phone for 2 or 3 years you will see a difference in how the battery holds up.
You are confused as the is no difference in how you reach a full cycle no matter if you do it all in one charge or over several days. If my phone were at 50% before I charged it each night, in two nights I would do a full cycle, just like you in one night after two days.
By charging nightly you need not worry about your battery and how long it will last. You simple use your phone and not worry about it. It is your choice but you are NOT saving a cycle by charging every other night. LOL!
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You are confused as the is no difference in how you reach a full cycle no matter if you do it all in one charge or over several days. If my phone were at 50% before I charged it each night, in two nights I would do a full cycle, just like you in one night after two days.
By charging nightly you need not worry about your battery and how long it will last. You simple use your phone and not worry about it. It is your choice but you are NOT saving a cycle by charging every other night. LOL!
I'm not confused. You didn't say that your phone was still at 50% when you recharged at night. How would I know that when you were suggesting that getting 2 days per charge was unreasonable for you? If you use 50% per day, then your phone can last you about 2 days if you skip a recharge. You implied that your phone NEEDS a recharge (ie. it is near dead) at the end of each day. If that was true, then what I said about recharge cycles would be totally valid, so I don't know why you're laughing at me for providing accurate information.
I'm fully aware that charging from 50% twice constitutes 1 recharge cycle, so please give me a little credit.
I changed a battery yesterday in a work colleagues iPhone 5.
What he didn't do, was check location services. He had a SHED LOAD of apps set to 'always' in Privacy/Location Services and didn't realise they were always using his location.
Definitely one to check if you haven't!
What he didn't do, was check location services. He had a SHED LOAD of apps set to 'always' in Privacy/Location Services and didn't realise they were always using his location.
Definitely one to check if you haven't!
If that was really down to choice, that would be one thing, but for many who have their battery either almost out or not too far from it (even if let's say 30% or 40%, if not even 50%) they would either need to recharge every night or would want to in order to make sure they aren't stuck with a phone that is dying in the middle of the day the next day when they perhaps use it a little heavier because of this or that which wasn't specifically predictable earlier.
Given that charging cycles work off of actual capacity and not how frequently the phone is plugged in, it seems that it's not how often you plug the phone in that would make a difference, but how much of a battery you use up on a normal basis which then directly relates to how often you'd need to plug it in to recharge. So we aren't really talking about how often a phone is plugged in, but simply about not using up as much battery, which means using the phone less essentially, which isn't really a practical thing for many.
I was only using 50% as an example! No way I could get two days. I run my company from the field and . .. . well just try to chill and have a good weekend.
You don't even need to jump through these "hoops" either. My screen shot on page one was with just about everything on. (Push email, background app refresh, everything on in spotlight, parallax on. The only thing I don't leave on is Bluetooth, I only turn that on when I need it.) I didn't even use the low power mode in iOS 9. (Judging by your screenshot yours was on iOS 8?)
I think it'd be fair to say that you are likely on the higher end of the usage/standby time curve. Not sure what is contributing to that, and while many more people aren't getting those types of numbers, it's good to see that it's possible. Similarly (and unfortunately) there are those on the lower end of that curve as well who are having the opposite experience with their usage/standby time, in many cases without much explanation either. And then there's the larger group of all the rest that are getting something in-between.
Oh I agree. I don't doubt there are people who are getting bad battery life. I'm just pointing out it's possible and that Apple isn't just claiming random high numbers that are unobtainable, all while laughing at all the poor suckers who believed them.
The biggest thing I've noticed is the battery obviously lasts longer in shorter spurts of use. What I mean by that is. Racking up 8-9+ hours of usage in smaller segments over the course of 24-48 hours vs screen on and always in use for a straight solid 5 hours.
Letting the phone rest in standby for a bit between usage seems to use a lot less power when you need it.
As I explained above, I understand that. I wasn't trying to say that one's goal should be to recharge their phone less frequently, but rather, to NEED to recharge it less frequently. Let's say that a person makes a habit of plugging in their phone when it reaches 15%. If it takes person A only takes 1 day to reach that point, but person B takes 2 days, they're both using about a full battery cycle, but person A is obviously using cycles more quickly.
In another scenario with the same individuals, let's say that they both decide to recharge at bed time every night. Person A is down to 15% by that time whereas Person B is at, say 60%. Thus, even though they are now recharging with the same frequency, Person A uses a full cycle each time while B is using less than half.
I also understand that people charge every night to ensure that their phone won't die at an inconvenient time. However, since I always have access power sockets at work and I have a car charger, it usually doesn't matter to me what my phone is at when I wake up in the morning. If it's at 20%, I'll charge it in my car during my commute and be at 80% by the time I arrive. I can top it off at my desk if I choose. This is why I usually only recharge every 2 days. Not because I think it's better to charge less frequently, but because I know that I have access to power pretty much any time. I know that this is not true for many people depending on the nature of their job or lifestyle.
Sorry if I seemed upset, I just wanted to clarify. I know how battery cycles are counted, but it's not actually relevant to my point.
Yes, it's iOS 8. And thanks for mentioning turning off bluetooth. I forget to suggest that as well. It doesn't use a lot of extra power, but it's still something.
Right, I understand that, but what I was saying in my reply is that it's not about how often you charge, but how much battery you end up using up and how quickly (which then relates to how often you recharge, but is still not that relevant given that it's about actual capacity that is being used up and replenished). And how much battery and how quickly you use it up isn't as much of a choice as simply when you decide to plug it in to charge. When we are talking about how the battery is getting used up that's related to how people use their device in their life, and under what conditions, where choice plays much less of a role in it all (or at least against other considerations that generally outweigh it).
I know. I think that we're actually saying the same thing. None of the suggestions I made above require using your phone less, just turning off some features that may not be needed. I understand that we all have only so much control over the power consumption of our phones. A true power user will never get the type of battery life that I do.
They can't give a screen-on estimate because there are so many different things you can be doing with the screen on. They do give estimates for talk time, video watching, music playback, and web surfing on both wi-fi and LTE.
most likely the 6S will have same or worse battery life. adding stuff like force touch and more powerful camera and CPU while keeping battery life the same is an increase in battery life to the engineers. I would expect the chart they have to show more battery life
It will be slightly better. The A9 is extremely efficient. It will more than compensate for any additional consumption. Which will most likely be from the new Camera Low Light Processing, and the new Display.
well if true the leaks have a smaller battery so i dont see this being possible. I highly doubt the battery will be much better. but hope you are right.It will be slightly better. The A9 is extremely efficient. It will more than compensate for any additional consumption. Which will most likely be from the new Camera Low Light Processing, and the new Display.
are you saying that the chart they show at the keynote will actually show an increase year over year? I would bet no
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every generation of the A series processor has been much more efficient with lower power consumption than its predecessor yet there has not been any significant battery life increase except the 6+. and that is only because of the large battery size.
Probably because the features and use of the devices would become similarly more intensive as they become better and can do more things faster.