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7.2 HSPDA Doesn't Make Sense to Loyal Apple Customers
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Wow. Grasping at straws much? You think Apple won't have a new phone for next year? Seems rather ignorant considering the refresh cycle they've stuck to.
Put it to you this way. AT&T said they'd roll out 7.2 in late 09, knowing AT&T and their "speed of service" means maybe December. So 6 months to start roll out and have consumers attempt to take advantage of it, until Apple comes out with a new iPhone in May-June next year.
Post #15 above had your answer:
ATT's towers are a software update. Their roaming partners are not. They could need radios as well.
ATT is adding more frequency coverage = more radios.
ATT's towers currently often have only a measly 1-10Mbps backhaul (connection to the central office and internet). They have to run or lease 50-150 MBps lines to each tower to handle the higher capacity.
ATT has to increase its MMS handling capacity.
Becuase loyal iphone customers will update their phones every 12 months if Apple sticks to their current product cycle. People who plan to keep the 3gs for 2 years will probably benefit from HSDPA
I disagree. Being a loyal customer and being a customer who buys something just because it's new are quite different IMO. A loyal customer will buy the iPhone instead of another phone. They will not just buy a phone because it is new and available.
I am a loyal Ford customer, that doesn't mean I buy a new car every year, it means when the time comes for a new car I will look at Ford first.
So because americans are "loyal customers" everyone else shouldn't have HSDPA until the americans have it first?
That's not comparable. Other countries have HSPDA ready, the U.S. doesn't. Why shouldn't the iPhone be ready for it?
I would understand the complaint if the iPhone was launched first outside of the U.S. but are you seriously saying that the iPhone should be crippled so that other countries can't enjoy HSDPA until the U.S. has it too?
What I want to know is who ever said the other countries shouldnt have it because att hasnt gotten off their butts to roll it out yet? I think the OP was thinking in terms of the US specifically, but never really said "cripple" the phone b/c the other countries shouldnt have it before the US.
The arguement about this being a US company only came about when the "US Bashers" got on their high horse and speaking in generalities about the US sense of entitlement.
Those comments are inflamatory and it spurs a defense reaction among some of us still proud (for good reason) of our country.
Another point I made in my last post that has been glossed over is the fact that without the US government and the SBA loan they received when they got started, who knows if Apple would even be around today. So lets not too ahead of ourselves in knocking the US and their sense of entitlement. Quite frankly, I think the market that built the company DOES deserve some respect. And this is (as eluded to by other posters) not at all different from any other market - special cars built for the home market or released there first... the same happens with clothing, electronics, cars, etc.
As I said before, I really am just sick to death of the US bashing. Its tired and over done.
The arguement about this being a US company only came about when the "US Bashers" got on their high horse and speaking in generalities about the US sense of entitlement.
Those comments are inflamatory and it spurs a defense reaction among some of us still proud (for good reason) of our country.
Another point I made in my last post that has been glossed over is the fact that without the US government and the SBA loan they received when they got started, who knows if Apple would even be around today. So lets not too ahead of ourselves in knocking the US and their sense of entitlement. Quite frankly, I think the market that built the company DOES deserve some respect. And this is (as eluded to by other posters) not at all different from any other market - special cars built for the home market or released there first... the same happens with clothing, electronics, cars, etc.
As I said before, I really am just sick to death of the US bashing. Its tired and over done.
Where's the outrage? I've seen lots of posts about AT&T being slow on the uptake and the ensuing frustration, but outrage? We're not French you know.
Being American, I can say for myself at least, that I do feel a bit of entitlement when it comes to getting the latest and greatest from Apple with all the bells and whistles before anyone else, because Apple is an American company. Period.
Brits get to wear cool clothes we never even see over here. Italians can buy an espresso at a GAS STATION that even the swankiest coffee boutique here can't touch for flavor and body, and it even comes with a free little cookie. Asia gets umpteen milliion cool gadgets waaay before we do, if we get them at all. The French get the best restaurants. The Swiss have chocolates and watches we only dream of.
America used to make great stuff. Now we pretty much suck. Besides baseball, the best cheeseburgers on the planet, missiles, and Apple, we ain't got a whole lot left that anyone else wants. So, if we get a little uppity when another country gets to use an iPhone feature designed on our shores before we do, just let us have our tantrum will ya?
^^^ Liking this!
But, to play devil's advocate, ya gotta admit that many of us Amis do tend to sort of forget (or ignore) that there's a "rest of the world" out there, and it isn't only when it comes to Apple products. It just reaches a crescendo when our Apple stuff isn't everything we think it should be.
no but the sense you feel these countries are entitled to it is amusing imo. i dont expect companies from other countries to conform to outside markets foremost over their own is what im saying. however, this issue isnt really a big deal to me as everyone benefits from it
glad you have it though
I don't think anyone feels entitled to it, but some people seem to think that if the americans can't use it then there's no point in having it. That's selfish and self-centered, imo.
A bit offtopic, but what's the benefit of LTE exactly? 7.2mbps HSDPA is faster than the average consumer internet connection, I doubt that there is any need for higher speeds. Just make sure the 3G/HSDPA network is sufficient and THEN think about upgrading.
So simply put its not a simple upgrade. More has to be done and it will take longer. I'm not interested in the specifics of it, I'm just wondering why many posters are saying its a simple upgrade that will take little time when AT&T themselves said it would take a while.
