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You're also the person who was claiming the phones were backordered until November. You are misinformed. Its alright though..

Yeah, they probably shouldn't of posted that but you shouldn't of ordered the phone if you wanted something on launch day.

I didn't say everyone's phone was backordered until November. Only some (which is true)
 
Yeah, they probably shouldn't of posted that but you shouldn't of ordered the phone if you wanted something on launch day.

I didn't say everyone's phone was backordered until November. Only some (which is true)

No you claimed there were "Manufacturing issues and delays". The point is, the phones were supposed to be available on Sept 16th, but not a single person who preordered online or went to a store got a Jet Black Plus model unless they were a reviewer. That is a FACT.
 
No you claimed there were "Manufacturing issues and delays". The point is, the phones were supposed to be available on Sept 16th, but not a single person who preordered online or went to a store got a Jet Black Plus model unless they were a reviewer. That is a FACT.

In a perfect world, everything would be available on the 16th. There were tons of issues with the coating (look on Google) but I guess they got those worked out and are churning through the first groups. Apple made broad statements saying "Available on September 16" showing the JB but during the preorder process, you knew that you weren't going to get it on launch. I'm not really arguing about that fact that Apple made mistakes this year (which they did) but they never told you at any point during your store order that you would get a launch day delivery. But, I guess we all have our own opinions and nothing will change that. Agree to disagree
 
No you claimed there were "Manufacturing issues and delays". The point is, the phones were supposed to be available on Sept 16th, but not a single person who preordered online or went to a store got a Jet Black Plus model unless they were a reviewer. That is a FACT.

i assume you know every person outside of this forum that pre-ordered and didnt get one? if not its difficult to say no one got one. it might be a fact that no one in this forum got one but doesnt mean no one got one. just my 2c.
 
To be honest, I don't think there's enough evidence that NO Jetblack 7+'s were available on 9/16. Thats quite a big claim based on the scant evidence of the lack of people with JB iphone orders who post on forums.
 
In a perfect world, everything would be available on the 16th. There were tons of issues with the coating (look on Google) but I guess they got those worked out and are churning through the first groups. Apple made broad statements saying "Available on September 16" showing the JB but during the preorder process, you knew that you weren't going to get it on launch. I'm not really arguing about that fact that Apple made mistakes this year (which they did) but they never told you at any point during your store order that you would get a launch day delivery. But, I guess we all have our own opinions and nothing will change that. Agree to disagree
Now THAT's your first reasonable statement here.. No one has said that Apple or ATT promised ME a phone on the 16th.. They promised they were AVAILABLE on the 16.. That means SOME (wait in line - or preorders arriving based on position in line as every year) would BE AVAILABLE on the 16th. That was false advertising.

Every year I've ordered from ATT in last 5.. My shipping date has been a month out from availability date. And every year it's arrived on launch date. So I saw Oct 4-11 this year.. What would I think? Launch day... Of COURSE!

The issue was a promise of AVAILABILITY.

We're beating dead horse now.
 
To be honest, I don't think there's enough evidence that NO Jetblack 7+'s were available on 9/16. Thats quite a big claim based on the scant evidence of the lack of people with JB iphone orders who post on forums.

Considering apple stated no jet blacks or iphone pluses would be available at stores on launch / apples earliest ship date was 9/26 - 10 / 3. Also how carriers such as att, verizon, tmobile, and sprint had later dates for their first waves / not a single person on macrumors/ reddit had a delivery date of 9/16 , its safe to say the only people who got a JB Plus model on launch day were reviewers and/or a lucky few in diff countries.
 
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No you claimed there were "Manufacturing issues and delays". The point is, the phones were supposed to be available on Sept 16th, but not a single person who preordered online or went to a store got a Jet Black Plus model unless they were a reviewer. That is a FACT.
Everyone needs to chill. It's a phone. Worst case folks are starting to get them on Monday, exactly ONE BUSINESS DAY late. If that's Apple's biggest failure, move along...nothing to see here. Go outside. Enjoy life. It'll be okay.
 
Now THAT's your first reasonable statement here.. No one has said that Apple or ATT promised ME a phone on the 16th.. They promised they were AVAILABLE on the 16.. That means SOME (wait in line - or preorders arriving based on position in line as every year) would BE AVAILABLE on the 16th. That was false advertising.

Every year I've ordered from ATT in last 5.. My shipping date has been a month out from availability date. And every year it's arrived on launch date. So I saw Oct 4-11 this year.. What would I think? Launch day... Of COURSE!

The issue was a promise of AVAILABILITY.

We're beating dead horse now.

Exactly. I think they should of made a better effort to either produce more iPhones or not advertise that everything would be available on the 16th.
 
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Everyone needs to chill. It's a phone. Worst case folks are starting to get them on Monday, exactly ONE BUSINESS DAY late. If that's Apple's biggest failure, move along...nothing to see here. Go outside. Enjoy life. It'll be okay.

I have no problem waiting :) Its just funny to see how far some people go to defend their favorite company by stating their opinion as if it were actual fact!
 
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Exactly. I think they should of made a better effort to either produce more iPhones or not advertise that everything would be available on the 16th.
Exactly!! Thanks for admitting that! That's all I've been saying. People trying to quell me that a promise was never made of availability is just aggravating. Why the hell would I stay up to 3am to preorder something known to be unavailable??? I would have ordered matte or gold.. I would have had "choices" on pre-order night.
 
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Geez... since when did this thread turn into a pissing match? Can't we all get along? :rolleyes:

Has anyone gotten any updates after shipping this morning?

No update yet.. mines been PFS for 2 days.. delivers by 9/22- 9/29 (I was in the 9/26 - 10 /3 wave). I'm assuming a bunch will be shipped out tonight or tomorrow, with delivery on wed/thurs.

JB + 128gb ATT
 
Exactly!! Thanks for admitting that! That's all I've been saying. People trying to quell me that a promise was never made of availability is just aggravating. Why the hell would I stay up to 3am to preorder something known to be unavailable??? I would have ordered matte or gold.. I would have had "choices" on pre-order night.

I felt the same way and took a lot of flak here in the forum. So I gave up talking about it.
 
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You're also the person who was claiming the phones were backordered until November. You are misinformed. Its alright though..
Technically, this doesn't mean all would be available. Just your assumption. For once, I don't care that I didn't get my phone on launch day but still, technically they didn't say all models.
 
The only flight currently in flight aware is leaving around 7:30 EST tomorrow morning. I would expect to see movement on phones then. Mine is still in China with delivery scheduled for Tuesday, I imagine it will be on that flight.
 
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Technically, this doesn't mean all would be available. Just your assumption. For once, I don't care that I didn't get my phone on launch day but still, technically they didn't say all models.

I mean... lets put a picture of all the colors on the plus model (incl the jet black that was heavily advertised during the keynote) with the words "Available September 16" next to them...

What does that tell you?
 
Oct18-31 group still processing hopefully i see more progress this coming week i just want my phone before OCTOBER meanwhile lets just enjoy some Sunday football
 
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