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71% of College Students Prefer Macs Over PCs According to Jamf Survey
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The survey was conducted by Vanson Bourne, a market research company, and commissioned by Jamf. If Vanson Bourne skewed its results to benefit Jamf, that would be unethical practice on Vanson Bourne’s part, and it would be useless for Jamf because they'd likely extrapolate the unethically obtained statistics to anticipate better financial results than they'd actually get and so on.
There's no functional benefit to introducing a bias to this survey. Try again.
Well, that and all the software we use in engineering works in Windows.
Macs are only common in the arts/social programs at my university where they only need a browser and office suite. They are also largely of a demographic more concerned with the brand than those in other fields.
I was more talking about the industry you're in rather than the geographic location. Lots of creative industries use Macs (although in very recent years they've started to switch away as Apple fails to bring out more powerful/customisable hardware solutions). At the last agency I worked at, the only people who used Windows machines were the VFX guys and the videographer. The agency I work with now has about a 80-20% split of Macs to Windows machines. Larger corporate clients used Windows machines but even many of our smaller clients had Airs and Pros as their work machines. This was in New Zealand, where Macs are similarly very expensive.
Even from a software perspective, they're more similar now than they've ever been, and most workflows can be switched back and forth without needing much adjustment.
Not trying to be snarky... but a single computer purchase is not why they leave with 60 grand of debt.
That was true until late 2016, the new designs are pretty disappointing from a durability perspective. My 2016 is going in for its third repair in about as many years, more than any other electronics (not jut limited to laptops) that I've ever owned.
I've worked in a few agencies runnign IT for about 20 years now.
Windows in enterprise accounts for over 95% of every device I have ever used, supported or ran. I'm mostly in Finance industry (Work for a bank) and we do not allow any non-windows device to connect to our system.
This might seem.. harsh? but it is in reality an absolutely requirement due to the cost overhead of a multi-platform system. If we were to allow MacOS into our ecosystem we would essentially be forced to run two seeperate set of control systems to meet our obligated and regulated controls. So far, while a Windows server can handle the vast majority of all controls we need via GPO's, MacOS does not play kindly with those rules without a completely seperate instance of MDM for MacOS. This is just not reasonable to need to have to have multiple back end MDM systems just to allow for a few people to use a mac computer.
Nevermind entirely that most of our back end software will not run on MacOS at all, nor will the DB engine that runs it even offer a runtime for MacOS.
Throughout the years, While I have seen MacOS usage rise in the consumer space, Apple has, especially by abandoning Apple MacOS server and XServes completely walked away from this market.
Some companies can go mac if they don't require the same level of device level controls that we do. But companies like us, typically cannot, nor will not allow Apple computers to touch our network. There's a massive reason why, despite the volume of Apple computers being greater than it was in the 90's when they were an all time low o1-3% of the worlds usage, they have been unable to crack past 10%. Simply put, for the vast majority of corporations and enterprise scenarios, MacOS does not play kindly. They are also EXTREMELY expensive for fleet use (we're talking about nearly 2x the price we source our lenovo workstations out for that suit the performance needs), further adding to the budget constraints that Apple is completely out of touch with enterprise.
it's amusing, while i would say that 5-10 years ago, all I'd ever see in starbucks are Macs, walking through the starbucks in my areas now, they're almost all surface pros now.
the last 5 years has not been kind to Apple's computer lineup. While revenues from higher prices and margins might be up. The volume of sales has been declining regularly. The "Shine" on Mac's is no longer there.
Survey's like this are questionable, when you look at the source. I'm very curious the questions, and how they picked the people to question. saying 71% people in school either want or use a mac is a massive stretch of reality. It's like the surveys that say 90% of teens buy or want an iPhone.
those numbers do not acurately line up with the sales numbers and volumes that Apple is moving.
Some EE and mechanical eng students need lots of Windows-only software, so they go with a Windows PC. Otherwise the Mac is pretty dominant.Alternative headline: 29% of college students are nerds
This was a survey of "Students" though, so they are actually personal computers.
Well, that and all the software we use in engineering works in Windows.
Macs are only common in the arts/social programs at my university where they only need a browser and office suite. They are also largely of a demographic more concerned with the brand than those in other fields.
Correct - both platforms have their own niche use cases, but it's pretty clear that younger people prefer Mac's. I think they are both dead paradigms, but that's just me.
So, basically, what you're saying is they're good for the overwhelming majority of users?
Considering there are 1.5 billion Windows PCs on Earth... and only around 100 million Macs...
I'd say the PC fanboys have taken it...
Yea, but how many people actually use the command line on daily or weekly basis? And, Win10 now has fully integrated Linux implementation built in.
No argument here. This is one thing that Apple has always done well[/QUOTE]
Not from my experience. I struggle daily having to rearrange windows when moving between a docked and undocked connection.
Personal opinion, not sure if agree. I haven't used Win10 enough to say I like it or not.
For most programs. However, there are still plenty of macOS programs that require custom uninstallers.
Again, personal opinion. You could say easier or you could say "idiot" proof. There are defiantly times that I feel I am not as productive moving between the keyboard and mouse.
They're both examples of fashion marketing. Are you saying otherwise? "Think different.", perhaps Apple's most famous tagline, is a classic example of fashion marketing.
I can't speak for every university, but the one I just graduated from (the University of Oklahoma) provides Windows licenses for free to students as part of their deal with Microsoft for Office 365, etc.
I'm putting my IT hat on for this response. While I don't care about your average home user, From an IT management perspective, the soldered down devices from Apple are an immediate "NO" to implement within a corporate environment due to the time and overhead required should something go wrong.
When you are dealing with situations where downtime means loss of producitivity, and a loss of direct revenues, having a device you cannot do basic maintenance on is an immediate issue. If I have to send a laptop in for repair because the keyboard failed, and the uesr now is stuck without their device for 1-2 weeks, we directly lose money.
For example, we use Lenovo here. We have spare keyboards that should a laptop keyboard die, we can swap out in 1 hour and have the user immediately back to work on their own machine. A hard drive/SSD drive die? that's a 20 minute replacement. RAM? 5 minute swap job. Dust clean out? A can of compressed air.
And lets say worste case scenario happens where the whole machine does need to be shipped to service and we wont have it for a week or two? I can take the hard drive out of the machine and put it in an identical spare and give it to the user in minutes.
All of these are rendered impossible with Apple's current soldered in computers. Because of that, we cannot support Apple computers properly while also maintaining our SLA's to our users
- You actually can join a domain with the built in tools.
- WORLDOX sounds like it should be updated into the modern era with web based offerings like Perceptive Content.
- When is the last time you actually upgraded any office computer you bought new and correctly the first time? I suspect most are thrown out in favor of a new one. Most companies are on lease programs anyway.
- USB and Thunderbolt/Display Port is pretty common. Many new enterprise PC laptops need a USB-C dock like a Mac would too.
- Admittedly, gaming is not that good on the Mac but we're talking office tech here... There is more than likely a Mac version of a software package you like on Windows or an exceptional alternative that is compatible. I mean, Microsoft even supports Apple with Office and actually develops there first.
- With some exceptions, it's been proven over and over again that to get a new PC equivalent of a new Mac, you'd spend the same or more in parts. Used? I bought a used 2011 MacBook Pro in exceptional state for $250 and a 27" Apple Cinema Display for $150 last month. I even did the supposed impossible and added RAM and an SSD, installed the free OS and all the free offerings they supply for software as well as my company home-use license of Office.
Absolutely
but also don't be surprised if you walk into an enterprise and ask for a full blown system change that will cost 5million dollars if the IT manager laughs you out of your probation period.
I'd like to see the results broken down by major based on if preference actually factors into productivity or the companies ROI. I'm sure these college grads would prefer a corner office on the top floor, but that doesn't really make a case for it. There are absolutely roles out there that favor macs, but the ratio of mac/windows/linux to real world corporate value isn't captured in these results.
Except, Price, performance, and options
All of which can be found better in Windows systems and options. the only downside is Windows. and to many, they just don't care.
now yes, Windows machines that cost $500 are going to be crap compared to a mac that costs $2000. But there are plenty of windows options that are also priced similar to Macs. But they tend to be more featured packed, and in many cases better performing
Eh. As someone who switched to Mac in 2009 due to my longtime hatred of Microsoft, I have to say that windows 10 is a solid OS.Rightfully so.
MacOS is the superior OS.
However, it is as I suspected: Brand cachet is no. 1
I have a 2015 MacBook Pro (I will not buy one that doesn’t have USB-A ports. Sorry.) I also have 3 self-built PCs. And I like windows 10 much more than OS X it’s not even funny. Was snow leopard better than windows vista/7 in 2009? Hands down. Is Mohave hitting it out of the park compared to windows 10? In my opinion, no. Not even close.
To each their own, I suppose.