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I just setup my in-laws with our hand-me-down 4S phones......their first smartphones. In addition to the basic apple apps, I loaded a few common apps: CNN, ESPN, Wikipanion, and Facebook. That's it, so nowhere near 8GB. They are very happy because all they want to do is:

Text
Check email
Make phone calls
FaceTime
Browse web
Get news and weather
Check grand kids on Facebook
Get directions and use gps
Take a few pictures

If Apple replaces the entry level 8gb 4s model with a 8gb 5c, it might be a pretty good choice for my in-laws down the road.

Your in laws would be better off with something like a moto x. Much better battery life, just as easy to use, and a better form factor.
 
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Your in laws would be bettwr off with something like a moto x. Much better battery life, just as easy to use, and a better form factor.

Yes, and not to mention that no matter how you slice it, basic apps like the ones mentioned function similarly on most platforms.

On a side note, it's amazing that Apple was able to find a vendor of 8GB chips. I am sure they'll be bringing back the 4GB iPhone soon.
 
I think that the new 8GB iPhone 5C is an absolutely amazing revolutionary product. Think about it. A somewhat naive person walking into the Apple store because they need an iPhone as all their friend have iPhones. They get the 8GB 5C because they will 'save £40/AU$60' 3-6 months late they they go to the genius bar, because their iPhone is full. They need a phone with more storage, as they have been in the iOS ecosystem just long enough to have invested money in apps etc they buy another iPhone. This time they get the 32GB model (even higher profit margin for Apple) so they don't run out of space ever again.

Apple sells 2 iPhones rather than just 1 iPhone. This is a brilliant move on Apple's part.
 
Yes, and not to mention that no matter how you slice it, basic apps like the ones mentioned function similarly on most platforms.

On a side note, it's amazing that Apple was able to find a vendor of 8GB chips. I am sure they'll be bringing back the 4GB iPhone soon.

that will probably be next falls innovation. a) how to get consumers to buy a chip older than they are and b) getting drones to claim it makes the iphone even more affordable and enticing.
 
Cuz you know .. memory is so expensive! :rolleyes::apple:

This is ridiculous for any country. They are picking one feature that's so cheap. Everything can be top of the line in the phone however need to keep that five dollars of memory the same.
 
I highly doubt the number is 90%. It depends on the type of people but a huge segment of smartphone users are on pay as you go.

Sorry yeah I forgot about PAYG which is huge as well, I was thinking of subsidised contract vs paying full price for the handset.

I think Apple sells more full priced handsets than anyone else. I would imagine the market for Samsung full price handsets in the UK is virtually non-existent. The main reason I hear anyone get recommended a Samsung phone in the UK (for those who are average consumers) is they get told "it does everything the iPhone does but its cheaper" - e.g. they can get it a cheaper subsidised contract which the network makes more money from!
 
I would say 90% of people who have a mobile in the UK are on subsidised contracts. Im one of very very few who buys their iPhone outright each year and saves money with a sim only deal.

Definitely not 90%. I would say it's more like 50%. One month rolling contracts seem to be more and more popular. Ok you don't get a subsidised phone but the monthly fee is a lot cheaper and you're not tied to a 24 month contract. I've got three mobiles including a 5s all on PAYG or 1 month rolling contracts. I don't see why anyone would want to lock themselves in a 2 year contract. Once you've paid for the phone you can just switch as and when better deals come out.
 
There must of been a market fir this, but i scratching my head wondering why 8.

It's too small..

Traditionally, Apple's started off with this alongside the other capacities, not released it later. Maybe a cheaper price point? Apple should have done this from the beginning then, since iPhone 5c was targeted at the lower end.
 
An 8gb iphone is a joke. Even the 16gb should be terminated. Storage is cheap. Apple could bump up the base model storage to 32gb without increasing the price.
 
If anyone posts that "Can't innovate anymore my a$$" comment one more time I'll punch you so hard that Chuck Norris would be impressed.

Why so aggressive, my son? Is the lack of innovation worrying you too much? Can't handle the stress? :eek:
 
Definitely not 90%. I would say it's more like 50%. One month rolling contracts seem to be more and more popular. Ok you don't get a subsidised phone but the monthly fee is a lot cheaper and you're not tied to a 24 month contract. I've got three mobiles including a 5s all on PAYG or 1 month rolling contracts. I don't see why anyone would want to lock themselves in a 2 year contract. Once you've paid for the phone you can just switch as and when better deals come out.

I still don't think its very common apart form clued up users like ourselves. I wasn't considering PAYG outright in the original statement though. Just the amount of people in the UK who buy an iPhone outright at an Apple store and supply their own sim card (though that could be PAYG I guess) - just the average consumer I know thinks its crazy to pay £700 for a phone when they can get it for £35 a month.
 
I still don't think its very common apart form clued up users like ourselves. I wasn't considering PAYG outright in the original statement though. Just the amount of people in the UK who buy an iPhone outright at an Apple store and supply their own sim card (though that could be PAYG I guess) - just the average consumer I know thinks its crazy to pay £700 for a phone when they can get it for £35 a month.

It's not always cheaper to buy the phone outright.

Last year I got my iPhone 5 on contract with 3 for £29 upfront on a £34 per month contract. That worked out £44 cheaper over 24 months than buying the phone at full cost and paying £15 per month for the same tariff on a rolling contract.
 
I would say 90% of people who have a mobile in the UK are on subsidised contracts. Im one of very very few who buys their iPhone outright each year and saves money with a sim only deal.

It's different in Australia.

Four in 10 Australians who acquired a new phone in 2013 did so via a phone contract, down from nearly six in 10 in 2012.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/01/14/australians-shun-mobile-phone-plans

In the last 18 months I have bought 2 phones outright, that being a Nokia Lumia 920 and a Samsung Galaxy S4. I will probably get an iPhone this year if the screen is larger, making that 3 phones in 2 years.

Anyway, I'm of the opinion that reducing the memory of the iPhone is the wrong direction for Apple. If you want to sell more iPhone 5c's then lower the overall price.
 
Sounds to me.....

like a test drive. Maybe if fare good, other markets will be incorporated. I see the logic about this iPhone not being an USA model, based in the current smartphone market.

I really, really would like see this new 5c coming to Latin America. Not the best LTE implementation, but lots of people wanting to get a hold in Apple hardware....:D


:):apple:
 
I still don't think its very common apart form clued up users like ourselves. I wasn't considering PAYG outright in the original statement though. Just the amount of people in the UK who buy an iPhone outright at an Apple store and supply their own sim card (though that could be PAYG I guess) - just the average consumer I know thinks its crazy to pay £700 for a phone when they can get it for £35 a month.

I paid £709 for the 64GB iPhone 5s. Then got a sim only one month rolling contract with 3 for £18/mth which gives me unlimited calls, texts and data (including tethering). That equates to £1141 over 2 years. The equivalent 24 month contract with 3 today would cost £29 for the 5s plus £54/mth which comes to a total of £1325 over the 2 years. So I'm saving £184.

But that's not why I did it. Mobile providers are bringing out new plans all the time and I like the flexibility to switch as and when if I want according to who is giving the best deal, the best service, the best coverage where I live, etc. For example I was using Orange because they had 4G first. But now I've switched to 3 because they also have 4G now but it's much cheaper and you get unlimited data.

However I suspect that most people don't have the £700 to put down upfront so for them paying for it over a 2 year contract is a better option. I've no objection to contracts, I just think that 2 years is a long time to tie yourself down in a rapidly changing market. For example, in July roaming charges are being abolished inside the EU. So what a call costs you to make in the UK will cost the same if you make that call from say France or Germany. I wonder how many people are tied into expensive contracts with free calls abroad.
 
Apple Open Your Eyes! 8 GB iPhone 5c is worthless...

Apple Open Your Eyes! 8 GB iPhone 5c is worthless...

I have enjoyed Apple products for years starting with an Apple IIe. I have an iPhone but Android is the way the way to go. Looking around my college lecture hall Apple is winning with the computers but not with the phones. Companies like Microsoft are even starting to come around. Apple please innovate! Keep a range of iPhone but don't go backwards. The 8 GB iPhone 5c is backwards.
Apple could have add a SIM slot on the other side of the phone to house a Mini or Micro SD card and sale it. People would have said Apple is innovating. But don't give me another product that is limited in nature. I don't want to explain why a $700 dollar iPhone will not do what my grandma wants!

Please listen to your loyal costumers. :apple:

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An 8gb iphone is a joke. Even the 16gb should be terminated. Storage is cheap. Apple could bump up the base model storage to 32gb without increasing the price.

It is time for an SD slot! Stratify the iPhone in other ways.
 
However I suspect that most people don't have the £700 to put down upfront so for them paying for it over a 2 year contract is a better option.
Indeed. Personally I'd never take a phone that had cost me a single payment of £700 out of the house, whereas I'd happily use one which was costing me £900 over two years. The human mind, eh?

I think the example you gave (£709 to buy, £893 over two years on contract) is as the high end of credit cost over the duration of a contract, but the networks make it difficult to tell. Although I do find the usage in this thread of the phrase 'subsidised phone' rather funny; it's not a term I'm familiar with, and I don't think even the networks have the cheek to use it.

Anyway... I'm (seemingly) one of the few people here who would be perfectly happy with an 8GB 5c, because:

a) white polycarbonate is the king of casings (I still miss my 2006 iMac)

b) I've got absolutely no interest in phone-based photography or music on the go

But would I buy one at £429 rather than spend £469 on a 16GB model? Probably not. I suspect that if I ever come to try and sell the phone the extra £40 for the 16GB model will always be strongly reflected in the second hand price.

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I don't want to explain why a $700 dollar iPhone will not do what my grandma wants!
What does your grandma want to do that can't be done with 8GB of storage?
 
Indeed. Personally I'd never take a phone that had cost me a single payment of £700 out of the house, whereas I'd happily use one which was costing me £900 over two years. The human mind, eh?

I think the example you gave (£709 to buy, £893 over two years on contract) is as the high end of credit cost over the duration of a contract, but the networks make it difficult to tell. Although I do find the usage in this thread of the phrase 'subsidised phone' rather funny; it's not a term I'm familiar with, and I don't think even the networks have the cheek to use it.

Anyway... I'm (seemingly) one of the few people here who would be perfectly happy with an 8GB 5c, because:

a) white polycarbonate is the king of casings (I still miss my 2006 iMac)

b) I've got absolutely no interest in phone-based photography or music on the go

But would I buy one at £429 rather than spend £469 on a 16GB model? Probably not. I suspect that if I ever come to try and sell the phone the extra £40 for the 16GB model will always be strongly reflected in the second hand price.

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What does your grandma want to do that can't be done with 8GB of storage?

Grandma like most parents want to let the kids play games on her phone plus she takes videos and pictures. She needs a phone with 64 GB as she never downloads a single video or pictures!
 
that will probably be next falls innovation. a) how to get consumers to buy a chip older than they are and b) getting drones to claim it makes the iphone even more affordable and enticing.

This and getting those same drones to backtrack on the idea that Apple would never have a BOGO or cheap, plastic, under-powered phone for sale.

I wouldn't mind Apple putting a Wacom stylus in the iPhone 6 and iPad Mini Pro.
 
Grandma like most parents want to let the kids play games on her phone plus she takes videos and pictures.
Oh yes, I remember the dent that my younger daughter made to our bank balance when she managed to a) wrestle my wife's iPhone off her, b) download 3GB of games in the space of a couple of hours, whilst c) not being attached to the wifi. And I always forget about videos.
 
Are Apple serious? al old phone rebated in plastic colours sold at an extreme price they think will be competitive? It's more or less saying some people are dumb enough to buy it just for the colour..
 
They should have just taken a minor hit on the 16GB. It's an easy and eye catching sale tactic. Just put a slightly lower than expected price and people will feel they are getting a bargain. Like a $200 dress that's been discounted to $50. Even if the initial price was much lower than the $200, the way they marketed it will catch attention. It's not always about if you saved money, it's about if you think you got an excellent deal. That's just my opinion.

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Are Apple serious? al old phone rebated in plastic colours sold at an extreme price they think will be competitive? It's more or less saying some people are dumb enough to buy it just for the colour..

That isn't an idiotic strategy. In all honesty, it was the color that caught me. I'd never owned an iPhone and wasn't even pondering it. Until I saw a blue 5c. It's so untraditional for Apple. So much so that it caught my attention. The 5c may not appeal to everyone but I think it's reaching the intended demographic.
 
I can only assume, that Apple knows what it's doing.
Regardless o that I think putting selling an 8GB phone at those (Apple's) prices is insane.
They didn't bring it to my country (Poland) and I don't know why. It's a small iPhone market - premium phone market in general, rather poor, but "emerging":) Seems perfect to implement the 8GB 5C.
The 8GB iPhone 4S has been selling rather well from what I know, so 5C should sell even better.
On the other hand iPhones here cost roughly the same as they do in the UK, so few people can afford them. Thus 4S, 5C doesn't make a difference, if someone can afford in iPhone they'll be happy just to have it - and I personally know a lot of people who don't need lots of GB space, since they don't download any apps at all. They just want the iPhone.
Nevertheless 8GB in a phone costing this amount of money is absurd. It's not like flash storage is the biggest cost of the freaking phone! Besides, it would really help Apple build that "premium" image if they were selling the complete picture:
- premium build quality
- premium materials
- premium technology (Retina, touch ID etc)
- premium Apps
- AND PREMIUM STORAGE CAPACITY!

It's the same with Macbooks unfortunately.
13 rMBP - 128GB and 4GB of RAM on a $1917 laptop? Seriously?
 
The original iphone had 4Gb and $499....what are you all complaining about ?

This new model is double the memory. Wow ... just Wow.
 
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