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apple is just another company, any product they make should be scrutinized!!!!

if they make a good product i like them, if they make crap products, i dont.
 
ok, you're right...apple released a defective phone, yet it was still their best-selling phone to date and besides the first month after release..antennagate hasnt been mentioned since..

i honestly forgot that it was even a supposed issue till this thread



(IM NOT SAYING THAT IF YOU HOLD IT LIKE A GORILLA IT DOESNT DROP A BAR OF SIGNAL OR SO....but it obviously isnt much of a deal if everyone kept their phone)


im not the only person who doesnt worry about how they hold it..doesnt have a case..and doesnt drop calls..



and apple woudl DEFINITELY give out free cases to shut up the easily media-influenced public..
 
Some of those are NEVER happening with the iPhone. We'll be on iPhone 10 and some will still be on that list.
 
ok, you're right...apple released a defective phone, yet it was still their best-selling phone to date and besides the first month after release..antennagate hasnt been mentioned since..

i honestly forgot that it was even a supposed issue till this thread



(IM NOT SAYING THAT IF YOU HOLD IT LIKE A GORILLA IT DOESNT DROP A BAR OF SIGNAL OR SO....but it obviously isnt much of a deal if everyone kept their phone)


im not the only person who doesnt worry about how they hold it..doesnt have a case..and doesnt drop calls..



and apple woudl DEFINITELY give out free cases to shut up the easily media-influenced public..
The iPhone 5 is the best selling phone. Every phone they release is their best selling. :)

I don't hold it like a gorilla. If I hold it normally with my hand, the bars start to drop. I'm also not saying I don't like it, because I do. If I didn't like it, I would have switched by now and wouldn't be planning on upgrading when I can.
 
The iPhone 4 has a significantly weaker antenna than the 4S. Compare the 2 phones and you will realize that the iPhone 4 really has some problem in the antenna design.

this is true. it's also true that the 4 had a significantly stronger antenna design than any iphone before it. it's amazing, that thing called progress...

for others, this "crap design" of having antennas that might be blocked by hands is obviously a problem only apple has... http://dontholditwrong.tumblr.com
 
this is true. it's also true that the 4 had a significantly stronger antenna design than any iphone before it. it's amazing, that thing called progress...

for others, this "crap design" of having antennas that might be blocked by hands is obviously a problem only apple has... http://dontholditwrong.tumblr.com

My comment was not to dispute the bias of the press against Apple :)

I think some of them are even doing paid journalism.
 
Who cares

Apple has corrected every problem I ever had with any of there products.
That is why we continue to buy apple.

My iPad 2 home button broke-they replaced it out of warranty.
My iPad 3 overheated and went out on thermal reset they replaced it and gave me a $25 apple store card,as I had to drive 30 miles to an apple store.
My 4 never gave me a problem but apple gave me a free bumper.

Nothing is perfect,not even apple,but if you have a problem my experience is
They are perfect with there customer service and will make it right.
 
i just said im using an iPhone 4....and it works FINE


antennagate was way overblown...

i already stated the facts above

If it was so overblown Apple wouldn't have given away free cases to fix the issue.

Steve Jobs wouldn't have told people they were "holding it wrong" either, they would've just stayed quiet on it like they do most things.

They recognised a real problem and exercised some damage control. Rather than recall the phones it made sense to give out free cases.
 
I believe Apple's calculated the investment-reward and realized a technology that will improve call quality (a complaint iPhone users have had for far longer than anyone's said "I wish my phone could share my cat video quicker than Bluetooth") would yield more reward at this point than including NFC.


Blind faith. Again, point is its a technology that they put in, addressed in the keynote, and the fact of the matter is it isn't useful at the moment. It's funny how when Apple sticks useless stuff in a phone it gets defended. When there's tech in non-iPhones that is more wide spread but still limited, it's not necessary. That's the argument for why iPhone doesn't have NFC.
 
As an avid Apple user and buyer I would NOT counter any of those "points" with, "well iPhone has Siri!" Damn thing is so unreliable... frustrates me to no end when they show those siri commercials.. IF ONLY it worked like that!
 
If it was so overblown Apple wouldn't have given away free cases to fix the issue.

A lot of people see it the other way.

They gave a case because it was overblown. The media had been looking for something to really jump on Apple and this was prime timing, something they could really blow up to make Apple look bad.

They made a huge issue that is a common problem with many phones, and Apple had to provide a response that was measurable, so they gave away a free case.

No other company has done something like that. I mean, my friend has the Playstation phone, it literally reboots on a daily basis, sometimes when he simply gets a text. Yet they haven't done anything for him, ever.
 
Anyway they can, they will try to disrupt everything. Case in point is the AntennaGate issue. That was ridiculous how they blew that up. It was like we invaded Iraq for a 3rd time.

AntennaGate was a real issue and still is on my iPhone 4.

The thing straight cuts out without a case, and for such an expensive smartphone, Apple deserved hell for it - put it this way, it worked, as they remedied it in the 4S and 5.
 
See the reason I say this is you don't see articles going over what Samsung hasn't done or is missing in their phones.

There are plenty of features that Apple feels are of much more importance that Samsung and the like have not found ways to create in their phones, yet no press is pouncing on them about the lack there of.

I mean, iCloud, no other phone company has brought anything comparable and as robust to their phones, yet I don't see an article saying 8 things the S3 doesn't have.

It's biased journalism.

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AntennaGate was a real issue and still is on my iPhone 4.

The thing straight cuts out without a case, and for such an expensive smartphone, Apple deserved hell for it - put it this way, it worked, as they remedied it in the 4S and 5.

But truly how many people had that problem, it was like less than 1%.

I mean, if the issue had affected 10%, 20%, 50%, then it would be a different story. But there are so many factors to take into account and I just felt it was blown up simply to take advantage of the situation.
 
I think some of them are even doing paid journalism.

I think some of them are still waging the PC vs. Mac War. And if you weren't on the Mac side then everything was fair game.

The think that makes me laugh about these articles is that (other than NFC), they really do not offer any suggestions as to what they want out of the iPhone to make it the phone of their dreams. A critic with no suggestions is just whining.
 
It's not that they hate Apple necessarily, it's that they're trying to get hits and traffic to their articles and the site.

iPhone 5 is the the buzz in the tech world right now and articles about it will generate traffic. Negative articles generate even more traffic than positive ones. Just take a look at that Yahoo article. Most of those 8 missing "features" are a joke.
 
See the reason I say this is you don't see articles going over what Samsung hasn't done or is missing in their phones.

There are plenty of features that Apple feels are of much more importance that Samsung and the like have not found ways to create in their phones, yet no press is pouncing on them about the lack there of.

I mean, iCloud, no other phone company has brought anything comparable and as robust to their phones, yet I don't see an article saying 8 things the S3 doesn't have.

It's biased journalism.

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But truly how many people had that problem, it was like less than 1%.

I mean, if the issue had affected 10%, 20%, 50%, then it would be a different story. But there are so many factors to take into account and I just felt it was blown up simply to take advantage of the situation.

Ummm.... I don't care - my own iPhone was (and still is) affected!
 
Blind faith. Again, point is its a technology that they put in, addressed in the keynote, and the fact of the matter is it isn't useful at the moment. It's funny how when Apple sticks useless stuff in a phone it gets defended. When there's tech in non-iPhones that is more wide spread but still limited, it's not necessary. That's the argument for why iPhone doesn't have NFC.

Look dude, I'm in the same boat as you. I'd have liked to see NFC in the iPhone 5. It'd be cool to say "Yeah, I have that too." But would I use it? Probably as much as I use Bluetooth (re: very rarely), which goes along with my argument to begin with.

There was a problem with voice quality. Apple sought to apply what appears to be an easy fix for that on their side, as long as networks supported it.

There isn't a real "problem" that NFC is solving, from what I understand, that isn't being solved by other technologies. So Apple isn't seeking to apply a "fix" for it in their iPhone.
 
My responses in red
1. "NFC for mobile payments" I would have liked this

2. "An improved texting solution on the keyboard, like Swype"NO

3. "SD card support for extra storage"Stupid.

4. "A 128 GB option"I suppose

5. "Non-proprietary dock connection"Stupid.

6. "A micro-HDMI port"NO

7. "Replaceable battery"Do people not know that having a non-replaceable battery lets it be bigger?

8. "While we're at it, better battery life!"ok
 
Biggest thing is NFC. It's just not for payments, there's a lot more things you can do with that. Samsung's new TV's have NFC where you can now connect with NFC ready devices and whatnot.

And who right now has a phone with 128 GB storage or capable of..?

I'd add LED notification light (front screen). :cool:
 
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