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Obviously a mostly meaningless sample size, but just to throw it out there. I follow like 200-250 people, and I'd say roughly half were not verified previously. I've noticed a decent percentage of those people have opted to buy a checkmark. I wonder overall how many people are buying them because just in my small orbit, that's a significant amount of people.
 
They could at least make a new verified badge for the verified accounts so you could tell if they are the official account
Elon has said he doesn't want to have 2 levels of people. Though I think he should do what you suggest for government accounts. Not for celebs though.
 
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YouTube adfree is $6/month .

$8 for the average user (still with ads) is ludicrous price

$8 for public figures is very cheap. I mean, imagine the blue check mark for the US president or Michael Jordan. They probably pay more per month for toilet paper.
 
I tried to get it, but I got an message that it only works with iOS so far. So I would need to buy an iPhone just to get a blue checkmark. That is quite an expensive checkmark.
 
YouTube adfree is $6/month .

$8 for the average user (still with ads) is ludicrous price

$8 for public figures is very cheap. I mean, imagine the blue check mark for the US president or Michael Jordan. They probably pay more per month for toilet paper.
Yes, but the problem with this was clearly stated by Stephen King's reply “**** that, they should pay me". Those public figures also bring money to Twitter by bringing followers and perhaps should be paid for it. As you say for the average user it is too much money. I wonder how many peasants want to pay $8 for a meaningless checkmark. Who here considers himself or herself a Musk's peasant? By the way, if anyone here sends me $8 I can email them a checkmark in return. It will be worth as much as the one from Twitter.
 
He still is. When he bought Twitter for $44 billion, it wasn't a total loss of $44 billion to his net worth. Twitter itself has value (somehow) so he still has that factored into his net worth which is roughly $40 billion ahead of second place.
I think it likely that Twitter will be a money sink from this point out. When a company costs you money with no real chance of making a profit, it has a negative value.
 
Well, if no one sees your posts without your paying, it’s not really speech anymore. So “free speech” (ability to speak your mind) vs “free speech” (cost-free posting) becomes a distinction without a difference. And let’s not try to pretend that Musk didn’t tout “free speech” as one of his reasons for buying this mess.
Elon Musk doesn’t know what free speech means. In the USA, freedom of speech means the government cannot censor or punish your speech (with certain exceptions written into the law). It does not grant anyone a platform to speak, nor protect people from the social/professional consequences of their speech. Elon and his “free speech absolutist” ilk think that they should be immune from the non-legalistic consequences of their speech, which usually ends up being “let me be abusive” and “punching down is good jokes”, to which much of society offers consequences, and some websites will kick you out the door because they want to make their sites welcoming to a wide user base, not be a cess pool of trolls and bigots.
 
Do people really use Twitter to trade quips with friends and family?

I guess I always assumed that most are on to follow politicians, actors, singers, journalists, etc just because they want to hear what they have to say.

I ask because I would think keeping those people on the platform would be a priority and you would want to retain a verification system for those folks. So this is why I’m puzzled by the first round of changes being made to the platform.
 
There is some merit to having paid accounts that get some sort of goodies¹, as the bot farms won't want to pay $8/mo for thousands of bot accounts (not to mention going through the process of having all those credit cards set up), but the fatal mistake was selling it to everyone as "now you'll get that cool blue checkmark that verified accounts have". It just devalues the blue checkmark for the purpose it used to have ("hey everyone, this is an actual official/verified account of some agency or company or prominent figure").

¹: (although letting your advertisers know that people with a propensity for paying for services have been partially extracted from the pool of people watching ads is not a way to make your ad space sell better, or for more money, to your potential advertisers - that also seems like a blunder)
It’s almost as if musk didn’t know what it was for before… kinda like people on here claiming it was just for people “to be elitist” 🙄, which is a common trait of insecure anti-intellectuals and pseudo-intellectual whining…

I'm kind of ambivalent about Chief Twit. I am glad he kinda sorta invented Tesla and Space-X before he decided to re-invent Twitter.
Invented Tesla… nope.

Which he only started doing after HE was the one impersonated. And its a liufetime ban. Meanwhile, you can spread election lies, covid lies and racsim - and IF you get banned, its not lifetime.

Musk - the guy who once asked Chinese social media censors to block posts critical of his company.
“But but but you’re just jealous of successful rich man!!!!11!1! Waaaa!”

I wouldn’t count on Musk failing. Twitter will be the greatest social media platform on the planet. Give him a year. Advertisers will be crawling back soon.
MAYBE after thee rehired employees who actually knows something about managing a social networking site educate Musk (without triggering his spoiled rich boy ego) and brings him up to an at least minimally competent level of awareness…

Isn't this the social media equivalent of saying to the world,

"I paid for WinRar!"
What’s wrong with paying for WinRar?

Umm, you don't have to pay anything. The subscription is completely optional. You get a few perks for it, but it's no different than downloading a free app from the App Store and paying for an in-app purchase. You can do all the stuff you could before for free and don't lose a thing unless you were a blue check prior to this.
…AND we all lose the ability to know when accounts are legit or not BEFORE they do damage…

We can only hope all social media dies. It's been a cancer on society.
This is an absolutist/black & white attitude. This is not how the real world works. Social media has been very useful to many people. When it became 100% a tool for the advertising industry, and that ensured the worst possible choices being made by the management of the services, things got bad. You want to talk about “cancer on society”? That’s advertising.

I have always found Twitter to be a cesspool of negativity. Plus, I am indifferent to EM but I have found his public autocratic approach to the Twitter employees jobs/careers unpalatable. If it was feasible, I’d delete my account yet too much content on the web needs a Twitter account currently.
It's a cesspool for you because of what you like and reply to.

It’s my news feed, because I follow a number of tech blogs (macrumours, Ars, theverge, Macstories), personalities (John Gruber, Marco Arment), and a couple of politicians here and there. It’s also fun following all the reactions during Apple keynotes.

I browse it with Tweetbot, which strips out ads, presents the posts in a clean, chronological order and supports safari view controller. Since I don’t really interact with anyone online, it’s actually quite a pleasant reading experience overall.
It’s my newsfeed too. I find the next day’s news on mainstream media playing catch-up to what I read a day or two previously on Twitter.

sounds like a lot of work.
And a lost cause

those theories were started by corporate journalists and persist due to lack of transparency by sfpd
The source was not “corporate media”… at least not a mainstream media source.

so are the people crying over the potential loss of an echo chamber
So long as Twitter is made to serve advertising, it will continue to push users into echo-chambers.

The guy is making it up as he goes along. He clearly doesn't understand what the value of a verified account was to the average user: knowing that that person/organisation is who they say they were. Now, it's just a free for all. Just look at accounts purporting to be George W Bush and Nintendo have been tweeting. Sure Twitter is blocking them, but the damage is done.

As for alternatives to Twitter, there is a substantial number of people moving to Mastodon.
Mastodon, like most open source stuff, is overcomplicated and poorly designed on a user-experience level.

It's social media, calm down.
Ah yes, the old “I personally see no consequences in this thing, so it’s stupid for anyone else to take it seriously” reaction… 🙄
 
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Lots of them don't even live in the state they are employed in. It would be way too expensive to send managers out individually to 4,000 people. It may be more respectful, but it isn't practical. If it were 10 or 20 people, sure, but 4,000?
Did you see the part about making a phone call?
 
While I have no opinion on Elon one way or the other, you have to admit the guy knows how to make money. He was co-creator of PayPal and is CEO of more companies than most people will ever work for. The second he goes public with SpaceX and Neuralink, he could very well be the world's first trillionaire. He's owned Twitter for a grand total of two weeks. Give it time, especially with so many people trying to sabotage him. I don't doubt his ability to make the company profitable in the long run.
”He knows how to make money” has never been a driver of respect for me. He had every privilege, and luck on top. That tells me nothing demanding respect. The best thing I can go for here is “he was interested in, and threw money at, a few interesting things, while hiring some competent engineers to make it work eventually”. The way he has carried himself in public, and been revealed to manage things in private, reveals a man who’s been successful in spite of serious behavioral problems and an utter lack of practical knowledge.
 
Do people really use Twitter to trade quips with friends and family?

I guess I always assumed that most are on to follow politicians, actors, singers, journalists, etc just because they want to hear what they have to say.

I ask because I would think keeping those people on the platform would be a priority and you would want to retain a verification system for those folks. So this is why I’m puzzled by the first round of changes being made to the platform.
Exactly why Musk seemed to heed Stephen King’s reaction… But he should’ve already known this, and didn’t. Not convinced he’s learned yet.
 
”He knows how to make money” has never been a driver of respect for me. He had every privilege, and luck on top. That tells me nothing demanding respect. The best thing I can go for here is “he was interested in, and threw money at, a few interesting things, while hiring some competent engineers to make it work eventually”. The way he has carried himself in public, and been revealed to manage things in private, reveals a man who’s been successful in spite of serious behavioral problems and an utter lack of practical knowledge.
I seriously doubt he cares if someone doesn't respect him. His job is to make his companies successful. He's done that with every company so far and that track record indicates he will eventually make Twitter successful. The metric for "successful" is making money, so it doesn't matter if you or I respect him or not. Like I said, I have no opinion of him one way or another and don't care to.

Is he a good businessman? Yes. Do I care? Not really. I despise social media and don't use any form of it. If Twitter dies, I hope every other social media platform dies with it because social media is a cancer on society.

As long as he's making his companies successful, he's doing what he's supposed to do. Will everything go smoothly? Not instantly with so many people trying to destroy him for political reasons. Advertisers fled because his enemies pressured those advertisers. But he'll figure out ways to overcome that.
 
I seriously doubt he cares if someone doesn't respect him.
Of course he doesn’t care… but then he seems to get really weird when people challenge him, and it looks like extreme insecurity.

Like I said, I have no opinion of him one way or another and don't care to.
I do.

Is he a good businessman? Yes.
I take issue with your narrow definition of “good businessman”.

Do I care? Not really. I despise social media and don't use any form of it. If Twitter dies, I hope every other social media platform dies with it because social media is a cancer on society.
The cancer is advertising.

As long as he's making his companies successful, he's doing what he's supposed to do.
See above.

Will everything go smoothly? Not instantly with so many people trying to destroy him for political reasons.
”Political reasons”, meaning…?
 
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