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shamino said:
Agreed. I would really rather spend $500 on a 60G iPod without the photo nonsense. A color screen is nice, but it's not worth $100.


Hehe. Have you played with an iPod photo? Oh yes it is. 😀
 
howard said:
thats exactly what i was thinking

why don't we have bigger laptop drives!!!

Because these drives will be in the new G5 Powerbook. They need the room for extra fans. 🙄
 
Does this have any link to the position Apple was searching to fill in June/July (they were looking for someone to work in the iPod division that had Wi-Fi skillz)?
Regardless, I'm excited about this rumor. I have yet to buy an iPod, but would certainly purchase an 80gb one. I prefer higher quality encoding and I have a medium sized library. With 4305 songs ripped in Apple Lossless I have a little over 81gb, so the 80gb iPod would be perfect for me and others who prefer higher quality encoding.
What would make the iPod a must-have for all musicians would be 44.1/48khz stereo recording capabilities. This would make the iPod a great tool for recording rehearsals and gigs and then being able to review your performance by listening to a quality recording. The iMic can't do this; it is good for voice memos and recording a meeting, but blows for audio.
 
This is great news indeed think about it this way the line up will be as such:

iPod

20 (slimmer) -----> 40 (same size extended battery life) ------> 60 (no colour screen or photo just music).


iPod Photo

40 -----------> 60 --------------> 80


Well that is how its going to play with Apple placing orders for more and more of these drives they can now offer a 60GB HDD for music only since Apple loves the 3 model level look at they iMac G5 as well same deal, iBooks same, PowerBooks seem to have a few extra models as well as the PMG5 line however that is more options for the pro line i guess.

Why are you people complaining for those like myself who don't want colour or photos on my iPod I will finally have the option to have a 60GB music only iPod. 🙂
 
cantrdr said:
If you look in the prospectus for the PortalPlayer IPO, it shows that there long term growth goals include making a chip with Video capabilities by 2006. Since Apple is a 85% customer of Portalplayer, my guess would be a video iPod of some form factor is not such a myth after all.
SJ claims that the main problem with a Video Player is not enough content... What Apple needs to do is to create a Livingroom Media Digital Video Recorder.

What it should do...

1) TRANSFER VIDEO files from unit to computer.
2) Include software to easily EDIT out commercials.
3) Easy-to-burn DVDs with built-in templates for cool MENUs.
4) Allow for streaming iTunes Music and Photos to the TV.

Right now, all this is possible, but it takes lots of different software/hardware and time -- and you have to know what you're doing. Apple could make it easy.

Personally, I can transfer MPEG files wirelessly off my ReplayTV to either my tower or PowerBook and can watch those prerecorded movies or TV shows either on my 23" HD monitor or on the go with the PBook. I don't edit commercials because it's a long and laborous process, although EyeTV does it with its MPEG files.

TiVo allows for DVD burning with certain units and also streams music and pictures from the computer.

Also, it would be great to show up Microsoft who came out with "UltimateTV", which I don't think was the big hit it hoped it'd be.

No video content? Problem solved.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Hehe. Have you played with an iPod photo? Oh yes it is. 😀

I played with it, no its not.. 🙁

I didnt care about color cell phones, I dont care about color-iPods. I wished form would follow functionality.. nowadays form follows fanciness...
😡 😕
 
Object-X said:
Because these drives will be in the new G5 Powerbook. They need the room for extra fans. 🙄

If I am not mistaken I had read that the iPod 1.8" HDD have a a life span of 20,000 hours a 2.5 and 3.5 HDD have far more than that 75,000+ hours. Drive can fail no matter what those are just considered as bad drives. 🙂
 
i was hoping for something better...

darn no G5 iPod with 2000 hour battery life, c'mon apple, if you can fit a G5 in an iMac you can get one in an iPod, i expected better from you.
 
ASP272 said:
That's an excellent question! Why haven't laptop HDs increased dramatically in size like the desktops. If you can make a 500gb hard drive at 3.5" and an 80gb at 1.8", why in the world couldn't you produce at least a 250gb at 2.5"? 😕

Presumably they can, but it's a question of demand at a given price. Many notebook makers likely don't see a demand for drives that large, at least not at a premium price. If apple did it, everyone would b!tch about how expensive the BTO option is.
 
JGowan said:
SJ claims that the main problem with a Video Player is not enough content... What Apple needs to do is to create a Livingroom Media Digital Video Recorder.

What it should do...

1) TRANSFER VIDEO files from unit to computer.
2) Include software to easily EDIT out commercials.
3) Easy-to-burn DVDs with built-in templates for cool MENUs.
4) Allow for streaming iTunes Music and Photos to the TV.

Right now, all this is possible, but it takes lots of different software/hardware and time -- and you have to know what you're doing. Apple could make it easy.

Personally, I can transfer MPEG files wirelessly off my ReplayTV to either my tower or PowerBook and can watch those prerecorded movies or TV shows either on my 23" HD monitor or on the go with the PBook. I don't edit commercials because it's a long and laborous process, although EyeTV does it with its MPEG files.

TiVo allows for DVD burning with certain units and also streams music and pictures from the computer.

Also, it would be great to show up Microsoft who came out with "UltimateTV", which I don't think was the big hit it hoped it'd be.

No video content? Problem solved.

No legal video content.
 
Ok, so I can see 20 and 40GB, maybe even 60 once you get some photos. But who in their right mind has 80GB of music and photos?? What would the play time be like, my 13GB would play for almost 7 days, and thats with my CDs ripped at 256Kpbs. So 80GB would be like a moth and a half or something.
 
pimentoLoaf said:
I'm waiting for the sub-$150 250gb model with widescreen video capability.

Hope you're a patient man... Maybe you can ask your grandchildren for it as a birthday gift... 😛 😎
 
As drive technology marches on, it would be great if we could upgrade our iPods, rather than buying new larger ones as complete replacements. There are only two tiny problems:

1. iPods aren't designed to be field-upgraded. That would take a different design and require more R&D and perhaps a larger size, none of which would benefit one-time buyers.

2. Apple has no reason to make iPods with replaceable drives, since they are quite happy to sell you a new, larger one instead.
 
sushi said:
Wise words indeed.

It is impossible to stay up with all technology. The key is to determine what you need, then get it and enjoy using it.

Heck, as much as I would like to get a new 40GB iPod, I could not justify the cost considering that my G1 10GB iPod still works great.

Of course if my 10GB goes South, I would replace it in a heartbeat. But until then, still happy with it.

Sushi

Exactly. My 20 GB 3G iPod and 1.25 GHz G4 17" iMac will last me quite a while and accomplish everything I need to do for a long time to come. Would a G5 be nice? Sure. Would a 80 GB iPod photo be nice? Sure. But do I need to spend money on those items? Absolutely not. I'd rather save my money for when the time comes that I need a new system/iPod/digital camera/whatever, then I can afford to buy a really quality system. I've never really understood people who always rush out and buy the latest and greatest thing. It's a never-ending battle that's impossible to win - there will always be new advances and they will always cost a lot comapred to what they will cost 6 months down the road. But hey, chacun son gout.... 😎
 
Doctor Q said:
As drive technology marches on, it would be great if we could upgrade our iPods, rather than buying new larger ones as complete replacements. There are only two tiny problems:

1. iPods aren't designed to be field-upgraded. That would take a different design and require more R&D and perhaps a larger size, none of which would benefit one-time buyers.

2. Apple has no reason to make iPods with replaceable drives, since they are quite happy to sell you a new, larger one instead.

...And further to 2), it appears that the general public is quite happy to buy brand new ones regardless as well, thus creating a mutually beneficial relationship for both Apple and the consumer... 😉 😎
 
slu said:
No legal video content.
What's wrong having the video that's on the DVRs? Tivo makes a DVD burner that you can make your own custom DVDs... what's illegal about that? What's illegal about transferring that show to an video ipod? You recorded it. You can use it. I'm not advocating the trading of those MPEGs but there's nothing wrong with taping a show and rewatching it on another device.
 
jared_kipe said:
Ok, so I can see 20 and 40GB, maybe even 60 once you get some photos. But who in their right mind has 80GB of music and photos?? What would the play time be like, my 13GB would play for almost 7 days, and thats with my CDs ripped at 256Kpbs. So 80GB would be like a moth and a half or something.

I remember a couple years ago when people were saying, "Who in their right mind needs an 80 GB Hard Drive?!?"... 😛 😎
 
JGowan said:
What's wrong having the video that's on the DVRs? Tivo makes a DVD burner that you can make your own custom DVDs... what's illegal about that? What's illegal about transferring that show to an video ipod? You recorded it. You can use it. I'm not advocating the trading of those MPEGs but there's nothing wrong with taping a show and rewatching it on another device.

Plus, dont we have the right to copy a cd or a dvd once.. to protect the original from any damage..

and plus, lets be honest, what portion of mp3s or yours are legal..

the point is not legality.. the point is to fit a processor which is able to run the codec and play the file.. plus there must be a more advanced operating system, so that as time passes you should be updating new and more advanced codecs..
 
~Shard~ said:
I remember a couple years ago when people were saying, "Who in their right mind needs an 80 GB Hard Drive?!?"
I was once happy with an 80MB hard drive on a desktop system. These days, I have 240GB and use quite a bit of it. So I know never to say "that's too big", even for an iPod.
 
shamino said:
100G drives already exist. All Apple has to do is start offering them as options.

If you have a 15" or 17" PowerBook, you can buy a 100G drive and install it yourself. I wouldn't recommend a HD upgrade on an iBook or 12" PowerBook. The procedure is not easy on those models.

If this ran at 7200 rpm I'd have one in a heartbeat in my 17" PB but it seems the fastest 2.5" drive is only 60 GBs. Bring on the speed 😀
 
I wouldn't be interested in it to hold more music. My 20 GB already holds all my music with about 8 GB to spare. I would be interested in it so that I could hold all my music in an Apple Lossless format instead of AAC.
 
toughboy said:
I played with it, no its not.. 🙁

I didnt care about color cell phones, I dont care about color-iPods. I wished form would follow functionality.. nowadays form follows fanciness...
😡 😕

So you are telling us that you would be happy with a B&W screen for your computer? A B&W TV. Movies at the theatre should be in B&W. I'm sorry but I don't live in a black and white world. The iPod since day one screamed for color in the device. Pictures are just icing on the cake.

For me the 60GB drive, color high res screen is what makes the iPod photo worth the extra $100.
 
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