80 GB iPod?

[easymac800g4]

reason for 80 gig ipod

if you think about it, an ipod is a really small external hard drive that happens to play music. i have a 20g 4g ipod that holds not only my music but a lot of my files that i have to transfer from school to home. also if the demand is not there now, it will be later. and it would be really cool to have owned an 80g ipod for a few years, have all the space you will ever need and not have to worry about needing more for years to come.

 

[Stella]

Takes me back to when colour screens where introduced to PDAs in around 1999/2000ish.

"Why on earth would you want a colour screen?"
"The colour screens would suck battery life" ( which was true compared to BW)

So you are telling us that you would be happy with a B&W screen for your computer? A B&W TV. Movies at the theatre should be in B&W. I'm sorry but I don't live in a black and white world. The iPod since day one screamed for color in the device. Pictures are just icing on the cake.

For me the 60GB drive, color high res screen is what makes the iPod photo worth the extra $100.

 

[mr Flibble]

HDDs..

Oh yes, it seems like there will be harddrives even in the next version of iPod which we thought would be flash memory based. My co-worker (who knows almost nothing about iPods and he didn't ask..) was speaking today with technician from Hitachi who told him that his company is producing 1" microdrives with 4GB capacity (6GB ready) for "iPod micro" 😉. It can stand 1000G when reading/writing and 2000G when idle. Of course it could be just disinformation based on misunderstanding, but I asked him several times if he's been really speaking about micro or mini..

 

[dcslacker]

i'd love to get an 80 gig (video) ipod, which will be double the size of my ibook's hard drive. maybe that'll compel me to get a new ibook by then, or the ipod might outperform my ibook. hah. 😀

 

[Mainyehc]

Exactly. My 20 GB 3G iPod and 1.25 GHz G4 17" iMac will last me quite a while and accomplish everything I need to do for a long time to come. Would a G5 be nice? Sure. [...] I've never really understood people who always rush out and buy the latest and greatest thing. It's a never-ending battle that's impossible to win ...

Hum... Curiuosly, I had the exact same system and iPod as you 😉

Both are great items, really... I kept my 20GB 3G iPod, because I don't think those 4 extra hours of battery life and the clickwheel aren't enough to make it worth to buy a 4G one. However, I bought an iMac G5... Why did I do that then??...

I don't know how much RAM you have on your iMac, but I suppose it's not the stock 256 MB. And I never added RAM to my old iMac G4 during the 8 months I had it, so I have no idea if an iMac G4 1.25GHz with 1.25GB of RAM is faster than an equivalent iMac G5 1.8GHz. Anyway, my 20'' iMac G5 1.8, now that it has 1.25GB of RAM, is SO damn fast! Obviously much MUCH faster than my old iMac with the stock RAM.

[Sure, I was an idiot, because with the money I've spent on this new system plus the money I've lost when selling the iMac G4, I could have bought a PM G5 Dual 1.8 and a 20'' Apple Cinema Display... I should think this way: I shouldn't have bought my iMac G4, I should have waited for this one to be introduced (because maybe I don't really need a G5 Dual 1.8 yet).]

I must agree with you: to save money is a *very* wise move... But sometimes, it may just be worth to take that crazy step of updating recently bought hardware. In my personal case, I feel like "two wrongs" actually turned out to make a "right", because now I can actually work much much faster. I still suffer a considerable resentment because of that huge waste of cash, but life must go on (meaning I'll have to try and get myself a part-time job on the next holidays to compensate 😱 😎 )

 

[sushi]

So you are telling us that you would be happy with a B&W screen for your computer? A B&W TV. Movies at the theatre should be in B&W. I'm sorry but I don't live in a black and white world. The iPod since day one screamed for color in the device. Pictures are just icing on the cake.

For me the 60GB drive, color high res screen is what makes the iPod photo worth the extra $100.

I don't believe that is his point.

While the iPod photo is very very cool for those who need/want the function, for a simple music player, a color screen is the last thing that I want.

I would much prefer a mini iPod form factor with an 80GB or larger drive with a battery life of 20+ hours long before I want a color screen.

Sushi

 

[Mainyehc]

...And further to 2), it appears that the general public is quite happy to buy brand new ones regardless as well, thus creating a mutually beneficial relationship for both Apple and the consumer... 😉 😎

Of course, this is obvious... iPods seem to last SO much (especially if you get a new battery at some point in time), that when they finally break, the iPods avaliably by then are oh-so-much-cooler and featured than those older iPods... Just compare the 1G with the 4G or the iPod Photo: aesthetical considerations aside (I personally think that the 1G looked cooler, or at least, an iPod with those sharp iMac G5-like edges combined with a WHITE red-backlit clickwheel would look AWESOME! 😀), the 4G is very slim and has an ever-increasing number of 3rd party accessories. How cool is that? 😉

Just another thought: It seems that as far as durability is concerned, iPods really are to their competition what Macintoshes are to x86 hardware. However, given Apple's huge marketshare in the digital music player market (we should be calling it "iPod market" by now 😀), iPods represent a huge business, and aren't viewed by people as some sort of "endangered species" like the Mac (I'm not considering some [yet] stupid "iPod death knells" from PMC and "Works-for-sure-players" lovers). Oh, come on, Apple, pull yourself together and start making some smart moves to boost Mac marketshare... It seems that making insanely great computers and OSs just ISN'T enough, something's missing (maybe MARKETING? [duh]) 😎

 

[wedge antilies]

Me...That's Who.

Ok, so I can see 20 and 40GB, maybe even 60 once you get some photos. But who in their right mind has 80GB of music and photos?? What would the play time be like, my 13GB would play for almost 7 days, and thats with my CDs ripped at 256Kpbs. So 80GB would be like a moth and a half or something.

Ok, I'll show my age , but I remember back when i had a 286 computer and all my friend were amazed with a 20MB HDD (I made the switch over a decade ago)
As for 80GB, I need one today, my G4 HD has about 45GB of music (all owned) and that would be half of what I own. Some people (like me) buy at least one CD a week, and have done for over a decade.
I have too many to count now, but I'll tell you I sold 500+ CDs to help pay for an American holiday a few months ago, and I wouldn't ba able to tell you one CD I sold.

Also, if the PC market has taught able anything, its that some people only want the biggest spec. product they can get.
One of the most important things apple is doing with the colour screen and the bigger drives, iPod photo etc., is making it harder for another player to come into the market and differentiate their product from the market leader.
It's all about the marketing wars from now on....

 

[~Shard~]

I was once happy with an 80MB hard drive on a desktop system. These days, I have 240GB and use quite a bit of it. So I know never to say "that's too big", even for an iPod.

I hear ya Doctor Q, I remember when a 1 GB HD was overkill! Not to mention the Apple //e my brother had with a whopping 64k of RAM and 32k of ROM. That 1 MHz processor screamed! 😎

 

[AidenShaw]

my G4 HD has about 45GB of music (all owned) and that would be half of what I own...

I have too many to count now, but I'll tell you I sold 500+ CDs to help pay for an American holiday a few months ago.

Well, you would have cleaned up quite a bit of disk space when you deleted any MP3s ripped from the 500 CDs that you sold, right? Because, of course, if you sell the physical CD you no longer "own" the MP3!

 

[~Shard~]

Hum... Curiuosly, I had the exact same system and iPod as you 😉

Well, they do say that great minds think alike! Hmm, I think there's another part of that saying, now how does that go... 😉

I don't know how much RAM you have on your iMac, but I suppose it's not the stock 256 MB. And I never added RAM to my old iMac G4 during the 8 months I had it, so I have no idea if an iMac G4 1.25GHz with 1.25GB of RAM is faster than an equivalent iMac G5 1.8GHz. Anyway, my 20'' iMac G5 1.8, now that it has 1.25GB of RAM, is SO damn fast! Obviously much MUCH faster than my old iMac with the stock RAM.

No question your G5 iMac is faster, you must love it. My iMac is maxxed for RAM, btw, I installed new RAM in it pretty much the second I bought the machine actually. 😎

[Sure, I was an idiot, because with the money I've spent on this new system plus the money I've lost when selling the iMac G4, I could have bought a PM G5 Dual 1.8 and a 20'' Apple Cinema Display... I should think this way: I shouldn't have bought my iMac G4, I should have waited for this one to be introduced (because maybe I don't really need a G5 Dual 1.8 yet).]

You're not an idiot - you bought a system that you wanted when you wanted it - if you would have waited around for "the next best thing", well, as I said above, you'd always be waiting!

I must agree with you: to save money is a *very* wise move... But sometimes, it may just be worth to take that crazy step of updating recently bought hardware. In my personal case, I feel like "two wrongs" actually turned out to make a "right", because now I can actually work much much faster. I still suffer a considerable resentment because of that huge waste of cash, but life must go on (meaning I'll have to try and get myself a part-time job on the next holidays to compensate 😱 😎 )

I absolutely agree with you - it's turned about to be a wise move for you, and I am by no means criticizing that. I was referring to people who do that ALL the time. Even people who have owned 1G, 2G, 3G and 4G iPods (throw a mini in there too for good measure!), I shake my head at - why?

My general philosophy on things like this is everything in moderation. Of course it's fine to treat yourself, buy something new, splurge, and all that - hey, we all deserve it. But for some people who have to own everything under the sun, all the latest gadgets, etc., I just think that's rather excessive.

Enjoy your G5 iMac, and don't regret the purchase - you have an excellent machine. 😎

 

[Goliath]

Hehe. Have you played with an iPod photo? Oh yes it is. 😀

Have to agree with you! Actually saw iPod Photo at Apple store today and played about with it- that colour screen is beautiful and the picture search is amazingly quick- like iPhoto on steroids. Even flicking through pics at hi speed they remained beautifully crisp!

 

[Phat_Pat]

Have to agree with you! Actually saw iPod Photo at Apple store today and played about with it- that colour screen is beautiful and the picture search is amazingly quick- like iPhoto on steroids. Even flicking through pics at hi speed they remained beautifully crisp!

yeah iPod Photo is nice..... although too thick for my liking

 

[~Shard~]

yeah iPod Photo is nice..... although too thick for my liking

Yah, those things are so damn thick and heavy - what a pain... 🙄 😛

 

[chanoc]

I want an 80GB iPod! But with video playback. 😎

 

[CaptainCaveMann]

An 80 gig ipod??? You have got to be kidding me 80 gigs!!!!!!! Jeez man i cant believe how much music some people have i have like 3000 songs on my computer and two big games wc3 and ut2004 and videos and other big programs like studio mx and all kinds of other apps and progs and right now im using 33 gigs out of my 120 gig hard drive pretty unbelievable that someone would need an 80 gig hard drive just for music ...amazing 🙄

 

[~Shard~]

I want an 80GB iPod! But with video playback. 😎

And exactly what legally-acquired video content will you be using on your iPod video? 😛 😉

 

[~Shard~]

An 80 gig ipod??? You have got to be kidding me 80 gigs!!!!!!! Jeez man i cant believe how much music some people have i have like 3000 songs on my computer and two big games wc3 and ut2004 and videos and other big programs like studio mx and all kinds of other apps and progs and right now im using 33 gigs out of my 120 gig hard drive pretty unbelievable that someone would need an 80 gig hard drive just for music ...amazing 🙄

I technically have over 200 GB of music, compressed, but would never want it all on an iPod - and yes, 80 GB of music on an iPod would be too much as well, I get by just fine with my 20 Gigger, thanks! 😎

 

[maya]

I want an 80GB iPod! But with video playback. 😎

And I want Santa Clause to bring me one for christmas. 😉 🙂

 

[KrysBaz]

And exactly what legally-acquired video content will you be using on your iPod video? 😛 😉

Home movies compiled on iMovie?
Take the 'pod around to the grandparents and instead of boring them with pictures have 10 hours of holiday movie to sit through.

 

[maya]

Home movies compiled on iMovie?
Take the 'pod around to the grandparents and instead of boring them with pictures have 10 hours of holiday movie to sit through.

Great not another boring vacation movie for the last time you are not a hollywood director. 😉 🙂

 

[sushi]

Well, you would have cleaned up quite a bit of disk space when you deleted any MP3s ripped from the 500 CDs that you sold, right? Because, of course, if you sell the physical CD you no longer "own" the MP3!

He He!

AidenShaw you be bad! 😱 😀

...and 100% correct. All those wonderful MP3's ripped from CDs that he sold should be deleted.

Sushi

 

[~Shard~]

Home movies compiled on iMovie?
Take the 'pod around to the grandparents and instead of boring them with pictures have 10 hours of holiday movie to sit through.

I know, I know, just having some fun... 😉

Honestly though, when you think about it, there would be far less legal content out there to put on an iPod video than the normal iPods (purchased CDs, iTMS downloads, etc.) or the iPod photo (all personal digital photos). Movies from iMovie? Sure, I guess. But otherwise, it's illegal to download movies, TV shows, etc. from the Internet, and the other thing lots of people are not aware of is that the Digital Millennium Copyright Act states that you cannot make a copy of a purchased DVD and put that copy on your Mac's Hard Drive - as a result, even legally purchased DVDs could not be copied in this manner.

Things need to change before the iPod video comes out. But when they do, I know Apple will be leading the charge. 😎

 

[shompa]

I Have 250 gig of ACC 128kbit musik, and I stopped add music to my library one year ago.

80 gig istn that big. 🙂

What about FatPod? 2 80 gigs on each other? 160gig, still small.

I also hope for a Itunes movie library. I want to be able to bring my ripped DVDs to my friends in my Ipod. Ripped in Apple looseless codec and be able to connect my Ipod to the TV. The ultimate portable machine

 

[trrosen]

not what DMCA says

But otherwise, it's illegal to download movies, TV shows, etc. from the Internet, and the other thing lots of people are not aware of is that the Digital Millennium Copyright Act states that you cannot make a copy of a purchased DVD and put that copy on your Mac's Hard Drive

This is absoluly not true. DMCA makes it Illegal to sell the technology to do it. but First sale doctrine gives you the right to do what ever you want with your copy of whatever you buy. Creating a legal catch-22. Its legal to make a copy for personal use but Illegal to create a way to do it.

also recording off air, DSS or even pay per view and copying to hard drive for your viewing are 100% legal... its sharing them that violates copyrights