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9.7" iPad Pro's 'Excellent' Display is 'Major Upgrade' Over iPad Air 2
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Same for me too. I have (had) both the 12.9 and 9.7. I returned the 9.7 iPad Pro. My iPad Air 2 Display seems very close and I personally was not a fan of the true tone display.
Just wondering, is this a matter of practicality or principle?
Does the fact that it doesn't wobble make a difference to you?
I agree 100%. This is called an iPad Pro for a reason. The pros who need these features in a standard sized iPad will be all over this. Does the average consumer need all of this? Well A9X maybe but all of the rest, no, if you are only consuming data. The pros will pay the $100 more for this and see that it is monet well spent.
Better than some OLEDs? Yes.
It's important to point out that LCD/OLED/Whatever, its a MASSIVE range of quality and specifications depending one what specific panel is used.
Pencil support requires a significant rework of the display stack and given how good Apple's implementation is, it's worth the $100 ($200 with the separate pencil purchase) alone because there is NO other stylus on the market that performs like this.
Bluetooth keyboards suck. I've owned a bunch of them. They are all heavy - typically as heavy as the iPad if not heavier. There is often lag with fast typing. You have to charge them. And even the extremely expensive ones tend to break at the hinges after a few months of regular use because a hinge that is durable enough to be used like a laptop is a lot bigger engineering challenge than these companies are up for at least at the price points they are looking to hit.
The Pro/non-Pro lineup for the iPads is clear. If you want Pencil and native keyboard support, and the best of all other features, you get the Pro. If not, you get the Air or the Mini. Nobody is complaining that the MacBook Pro is more expensive than the MacBook Air or that Apple is doing anything fishy there. Time to get over it.
I used it for about 20 minutes. The display is nicer than the Air 2. I would come nowhere close to saying it's a "significant upgrade". IMO marginally better is a more accurate description.
I agree. This screen is objectively (in many categories) to be the best mobile screen in the world. In some categories this is the best screen in the world. This screen is the new standard.
New standard for LCD displays, we all know OLED tops it and the Galaxy tab S still has the best tablet display ever and it was released in 2014.
The camera doesn't make it rock or anything while on its back, just so you know. You won't notice it at all.
While impressive, the screen improvements don't justify an upgrade form an iPad Air 2.
I haven't seen a single improvement to the iPad Pro that makes it worth $100 more than previous models when they launched. The sprinkling of Pro-like features is scarce enough that the "Pro" label on the device is overstating it's capabilities.
I continue to say iPad is the best tablet line out there and if getting a new tablet the iPad Pro is the best you can get. If upgrading, consider waiting unless you got a mansion full of money to blow.
At this time I'm not planning on getting an iPhone 7. I'm more likely to get an iPhone 7S in 2017. But I'm happy to see continued improvements that will make the phone experience better.
I haven't seen a single improvement to the iPad Pro that makes it worth $100 more than previous models when they launched. The sprinkling of Pro-like features is scarce enough that the "Pro" label on the device is overstating it's capabilities.
I continue to say iPad is the best tablet line out there and if getting a new tablet the iPad Pro is the best you can get. If upgrading, consider waiting unless you got a mansion full of money to blow.
At this time I'm not planning on getting an iPhone 7. I'm more likely to get an iPhone 7S in 2017. But I'm happy to see continued improvements that will make the phone experience better.
I'm not suggesting that either the Pencil or Smart Connector isn't great technology, but rather t's a tough sell charging extra (over the previous 9.7 flagship MSRP) for mere support and little else. Apple's margins on iPad are quite healthy even if they have to bear an extra buck or two building in support for their own proprietary peripherals. And certainly it will make that back and then some selling Pencils and keyboards.
And the comparison b/t the laptop lines is misplaced too. I'm not comparing unlike product w/ unlike products like MB vs MBP. I'm comparing last years 9.7 flagship with this years 9.7 flagship. Go back to my original post for reference as to why the Pro 9.7 doesn't merit a $100 price increase IMHO.
The fact people complain about the color says more about people being used to the bluish tint of most LCD, especially TV's and screens. They complain the same when I switch them from standard to movie movie on their TV (or if they see mine that is properly calibrated). They often find it too
The casual viewers watch low rez crap on their phones, they're not a discerning bunch and for them, the Air 2 is AOK.
They often can't really discern bad contrast, bad colors (they bought badly over saturated screens for years), bad everything. They barely can see the difference between SD and HD.
That's why Apple had problem getting them to upgrade and making an Air 3 with a slightly better everything (but no true tone and pen support), would have been pointless for those people who are still happy with their Ipad 2.
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What a pointless post. What is your point? That paying $.30 a day extra to get the pro if you keep it 3 years, needs a mansion? A device that's much cheaper than the C64 was (50% less when inflation adjusted), without a screen and tape deck that millions bought (all mansion dwellers I guess).
Your own assessment, especially about the economic of this, are pretty weak.
Considering it's marketed to those that are ready pay that "high" quarter a day price for this privilege, it's even more ludicrous.
I'm just here to say: "I WANT NEW THINGS AND I DONT WANT TO PAY FOR THEM!"
serious whats wrong with you people. if you dont think you're able to spend 100 bucks for the extra features, then save yourself some dough and by an Air 2, which they even dropped in price. whats the freaking problem?
if you already have an Air 2, why in gods name do you believe you're supposed to upgrade it? it works fine.
serious whats wrong with you people. if you dont think you're able to spend 100 bucks for the extra features, then save yourself some dough and by an Air 2, which they even dropped in price. whats the freaking problem?
if you already have an Air 2, why in gods name do you believe you're supposed to upgrade it? it works fine.
Anybody who buys a new tablet every year has extra money laying around to do so or they are putting themselves in debt. Ita not that someone needs a mansion. It's that it's a big waste of money for the minor updates between years.
Wtf cares about a quarter a day price? Ok. The iPad is the high end of tablets. But that doesn't mean iPad customers should be expected to spend more. The industry just forces them to and so the numbers show that people are willing to spend and the indiustry spins it like a want.
Plainly stated my post is to say upgrade only if you have money to waste. Buy if you have the money and wand the best tablet on the market.
Wtf are you judging the worth of my post? Get outta here with that ********.
i'm not sure if anyone else can answer this... but... heres the thing. I bought the ipad pro 9.7. I bought the 128gb, but returned it a week later for the 256gb.
When i was using the 128gb ipad pro 9.7, the screen's glass felt really sticky. It was REALLY rough, and can barely swipe anything without the feeling of your finger being sticky. I thought it was a 'NEW ipad' thing that goes away after a bit of use. However, it would not go away. After a few days of heavy use, and looking absolutely ugly with finger prints and dust, i cleaned it with a micro fibre cloth (no liquid) and was still really sticky. In the end, no matter how much i cleaned it, it just wouldn't get clean. It felt like a really rough surface.
I returned it for a 256gb, and already have a screen protector ready to put on. I have one for my iphone, and feels absolutely amazing. Easy to clean, and feels like really nice smooth glass. Anyways, i opened up the new 256gb ipad, and omg the screen feels absolutely different. It felt like my iphone 6 plus screen. Or normal glass screens on devices. I thought the new non-reflective screen tech was what made it feel ******, but wasn't. The screen looks exactly the same, after some test in regards to reflectivity, quality, and usage. I could find nothing different. However, the screen is easy to clean, i can wipe dust and finger prints off easily, and my fingerprints dont smudge on the screen as easily too.
Does anyone know why? My bro's ipad pro 12" has the same sticky ****** screen, where he ended up getting a screen protector to make it no so sticky too. I also tried an ipad air 2 before and had the same ****** screen, but returned it due to the speakers giving me a headache.
PS. Despite what people say, i love the ipad pro 9.7. I mean, i'm still a little pissed off about a few things, like no USB 3 for the lightning port, and costing more than usual. However, i'm upgrading from an ipad 3rd gen (the first retina ipad) and its a HUGE upgrade for me. I already had money saved up for w/e 9.7 ipad that was being released this year.
When i was using the 128gb ipad pro 9.7, the screen's glass felt really sticky. It was REALLY rough, and can barely swipe anything without the feeling of your finger being sticky. I thought it was a 'NEW ipad' thing that goes away after a bit of use. However, it would not go away. After a few days of heavy use, and looking absolutely ugly with finger prints and dust, i cleaned it with a micro fibre cloth (no liquid) and was still really sticky. In the end, no matter how much i cleaned it, it just wouldn't get clean. It felt like a really rough surface.
I returned it for a 256gb, and already have a screen protector ready to put on. I have one for my iphone, and feels absolutely amazing. Easy to clean, and feels like really nice smooth glass. Anyways, i opened up the new 256gb ipad, and omg the screen feels absolutely different. It felt like my iphone 6 plus screen. Or normal glass screens on devices. I thought the new non-reflective screen tech was what made it feel ******, but wasn't. The screen looks exactly the same, after some test in regards to reflectivity, quality, and usage. I could find nothing different. However, the screen is easy to clean, i can wipe dust and finger prints off easily, and my fingerprints dont smudge on the screen as easily too.
Does anyone know why? My bro's ipad pro 12" has the same sticky ****** screen, where he ended up getting a screen protector to make it no so sticky too. I also tried an ipad air 2 before and had the same ****** screen, but returned it due to the speakers giving me a headache.
PS. Despite what people say, i love the ipad pro 9.7. I mean, i'm still a little pissed off about a few things, like no USB 3 for the lightning port, and costing more than usual. However, i'm upgrading from an ipad 3rd gen (the first retina ipad) and its a HUGE upgrade for me. I already had money saved up for w/e 9.7 ipad that was being released this year.
I definitely agree with your first point. If you're coming from the Air models, the display alone is not a reason to upgrade at all. However, if you draw, design, or take notes and want to use one of the best styluses on the market, it's a great update. If you make music, listen to music, or watch lots of video on your iPad and want better stock speakers, it's a great update. If you don't have a 6S, or just want a better camera and 4K video options on your iPad, it's a great update. And while the Air 2 is no slouch, if you want a faster processor, it's a good update.
Whether or not it's worth the extra $ or waiting a few months for discounts and sales to appear is for the individual to decide.
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That is great. Now I can view my loRes photos from my iPhone 4S with even more pixelation resolution.
How is that?
Did you miss the part that this has the EXACT same resolution as the 3rd gen iPad, the 4th gen iPad, the iPad Air & the iPad Air 2?
Your "joke" fell REALLY flat.
Speaking to a friend who works at flagship Apple store, the new iPad "pro" sales not doing well at all. Lack of innovation and £100 price hike taking its effect. Shame
Need a really good docking station with Large battery. Otherwise I will continue to use my Macbook Pro 17" with 16 gigs, 1 TB SSd, non-glare screen. Would buy larger iPad. Also, should have phone capabilities. And for God's sake, a cassette player built in for all us old guys. A built-in mirror to see what's sneaking up on you from behind. A lease plan similar to iPhone program. After 2 years I would want a new one.