iPod touch $9.95 for the upgrade then.

[ziggyonice]

It's an operating system upgrade. Why would you expect to NOT have to pay for it? I'll look at it more closely and see if it's worth the upgrade for me right now. In the end, though, it's just $10.

That's how I see it. It's only ten bucks, and it's worth it. For non-tech people though, sometimes they won't see the advantage until after a techie explains it to them. Why? Because they don't read "Update Now", they just click "Remind Me Later".

Originally Posted by richpjr
I'll pay, but it's really irritating that I have to.

Here we go.

Couldn’t have said it any better myself!

 

[Ivan P]

I remember the keynote still, the charge was a mere $19.95.

I remember specifically not paying for it.

You're thinking of the January Software Upgrade from early 2008, THAT was $19.95 (it was $25 in Australia). 2.0 was $9.95, I had to pay $12.50 for it.

 

[saberahul]

You're thinking of the January Software Upgrade from early 2008, THAT was $19.95 (it was $25 in Australia). 2.0 was $9.95, I had to pay $12.50 for it.

Ya, that's it.

 

[sjleworthy]

i'd certainly pay it. i couldn't give a flying toss.

 

[GoCubsGo]

I remember the keynote still, the charge was a mere $19.95.

I remember specifically not paying for it.

So I wonder, as I don't own a Touch, can you go from 1.0 to 3.0 and bypass that $20 fee for 2.0 or is 2.0 now "free"?

If I had a Touch I presume I'd pay for it, but I am the target audience for these things ... pay now, bitch later.

 

[Ace 7]

Will the new 3.0 update ship with new iPods? Or will you have to upgrade after you bought it?

 

[sjleworthy]

So I wonder, as I don't own a Touch, can you go from 1.0 to 3.0 and bypass that $20 fee for 2.0 or is 2.0 now "free"?

yes. you can upgrade from 1 directly to 3 (when it's live) for a single cost of an upgrade. you can bypass 2 all together.

2 isn't now free as it's still the current version. so you still need to pay from 1 to 2. then you'll need to pay from 2 to 3.

as soon as 3 is live it'll be the most current, so 2 will be removed from the market as a download as it'll be superseded.

as for what fw will be provided with what Touches, well that should be the latest issue fw, also, it depends on how old the stock is they have in stock where you buy it too i suppose. some outlets are still probably selling Touches with fw 1. but, buy officially from apple it will (or should be) the latest fw in operation at that time.

 

[sharp65]

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So far the cut and paste along with spotlight is already making it worth it for me.

 

[who?]

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So far the cut and paste along with spotlight is already making it worth it for me.

Yeah, those are awesome new features, but having the first legit Apple iPod in the world that didn't need a dongle for bluetooth headphones really was the point of no return for me. I just copied seven pictures, pasted them in an email, and sent them to a friend without any hassle whatsoever! I could never go back to a 2.X version after this! There is virtually no lag, and the features are incredible!

 

[Jack Flash]

Yeah, those are awesome new features, but having the first legit Apple iPod in the world that didn't need a dongle for bluetooth headphones really was the point of no return for me. I just copied seven pictures, pasted them in an email, and sent them to a friend without any hassle whatsoever! I could never go back to a 2.X version after this! There is virtually no lag, and the features are incredible!

Bluetooth in the touch? OH HO HO! Well that is some good news.

 

[Ivan P]

as for what fw will be provided with what Touches, well that should be the latest issue fw, also, it depends on how old the stock is they have in stock where you buy it too i suppose. some outlets are still probably selling Touches with fw 1. but, buy officially from apple it will (or should be) the latest fw in operation at that time.

Not necessarily. Apple never sold brand new 1st gen touch's with 2.0 installed (I emphasise 'brand new' because I believe it was, however, installed on some refurbs), but they did waive the 2.0 purchase/installation fee if you bought said iPod between certain dates. Until the 2nd gen, the 1st gen ones had 1.1.5 installed, which was the last of the 1.1.x releases.

 

[FearNo1]

So touch owners have to pay for the FW update while iphone owners get it free??? Thats B$

 

[sjleworthy]

dont worry, iphone owners certainly pay for it through their subscriptions. it's only the Touch owners that pay a one off up front payment.

 

[Stratification]

I'm willing to pay way more for updates to OS X. So yeah, I'm willing to pony up $10. It's a couple of lunches worth really.

 

[koconborz]

9.95$ not a big deal

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

i'm probably just gonna find a way to get it for free like people did with 2.0. there are only a few things i like in 3.0. push notification, peer to peer (which i don't even think i will be able to use since i have a 1st gen.), landscape, search, and accessories support, everything else i couldn't care less about.

That's stealing.

OMG! Copy and Paste will cost me $10! WTF! I hope they will not release iPod Touch 3rd Generation next year cause I will go crazy!

Technology is updated every year, get used to it.

Does this mean that if your iPod is jailbroken you need to restore to original to go 3.0? None of those features are interesting enough for me to give up my jailbreak.

Also is there an ETA for this update?

Well, duh. This happened when you went from 1.x to 2.x right?

I have a 2G iPod. I'm just very very disappointed to see that I had to pay the $9.95 fee to upgrade to the 2.0 version and now i have to do it again to get the 3.0 version... first time I didn't even think twice but there is a limit to how much you can spend on upgrades.
In the end, i'm sure i'll end up paying it because it's only $10 but even then a one time fee should be more than enough.

Yea, when you buy a computer, you have to pay for your next computer and the one after that. Same story with OS upgrades.

me too

That's stealing too.

im just gonna download it for free

That's stealing also.

So touch owners have to pay for the FW update while iphone owners get it free??? Thats B$

iPhone users pay the monthly bill. iPod touch users don't.

 

[dazed]

I have a 1G Touch and its fine for what i use it for. If I was Apple id give the v2 software away for free so more people would have access to the app store.

 

[spork183]

hard for me to get to worked up at apple about it. You know what you're getting when you purchase. If you don't want it, don't buy it. As long as they spend money on development, they need a way to recoup it. $10, hmm, can I finance that?

 

[spork183]

I have a 1G Touch and its fine for what i use it for. If I was Apple id give the v2 software away for free so more people would have access to the app store.

good point. drive more app store purchases. I wonder how many people have not purchased the v2 software, and if they will now jump straight to v3, or stay at v1. Was cost or functionality the major reason you didn't go v2? or something else?

 

[firewood]

So touch owners have to pay for the FW update while iphone owners get it free???

Most iPhone owners are paying $70...

Per month...

Or more.

Of course, only a percentage of the monthly cell phone service bill is going to Apple (indirectly, but to pay off the loan the telco took out on the subsidy), but that's still way more than $9.95 over the course of a full 2 year contract.

2 * 12 * 70 = $1680.00

$1680 > $9.95

Even only 1% of $1680 is still more than $9.95

So There!

 

[mavis]

It's an operating system upgrade. Why would you expect to NOT have to pay for it?

Because I don't have to pay for it for my iPhone 3G, and because I'm using it for free now (as a registered developer) ...

I don't care the least bit about the reasoning/excuses for why iPod users have to pay when iPhone users don't. As a consumer and an Apple fan, I find it highly annoying. Therefore, I refuse to pay for the upgrade. I was able to upgrade to 1.1.3 (?) for free, I upgraded to 2.0 for free last summer, and I'll steal 3.0 as well. I don't feel the least bit of guilt - not the tiniest little shred - so spare me the lectures. I just wish Apple didn't try to nickel-and-dime as like they do.

 

[Ivan P]

Because I don't have to pay for it for my iPhone 3G, and because I'm using it for free now (as a registered developer) ...

I don't care the least bit about the reasoning/excuses for why iPod users have to pay when iPhone users don't. As a consumer and an Apple fan, I find it highly annoying. Therefore, I refuse to pay for the upgrade. I was able to upgrade to 1.1.3 (?) for free, I upgraded to 2.0 for free last summer, and I'll steal 3.0 as well. I don't feel the least bit of guilt - not the tiniest little shred - so spare me the lectures. I just wish Apple didn't try to nickel-and-dime as like they do.

1.1.3 was a free update for everyone anyway, you only had to pay to unlock the new features.

 

[mavis]

1.1.3 was a free update for everyone anyway, you only had to pay to unlock the new features.

I didn't. That's the point I was making.

dont worry, iphone owners certainly pay for it through their subscriptions. it's only the Touch owners that pay a one off up front payment.

FUD,

iPhone users pay the monthly bill. iPod touch users don't.

FUD,

Of course, only a percentage of the monthly cell phone service bill is going to Apple ...

FUD!

I don't know why people insist on talking about revenue sharing, when in fact that business model was abandoned almost a year ago, when the iPhone 3G was launched. Here's a nice excerpt from engadget:

AT&T has gone on the record saying that it'll take a huge revenue hit -- 10 to 12 cents per share both this year and next before finally planning on profitability in 2010 -- in order to deeply subsidize the phone on its own accord, taking Apple and its precious monthly kickbacks out of the picture.

What's that you say? You don't want to take engadget's word for it? Fine. Straight from AT&T themselves:

The new agreement between Apple and AT&T eliminates the revenue-sharing model under which AT&T shared a portion of monthly service revenue with Apple. Under the revised agreement, which is consistent with traditional equipment manufacturer-carrier arrangements, there is no revenue sharing and both iPhone 3G models will be offered at attractive prices to broaden the market potential and accelerate subscriber volumes.

I know it's fun to play the Apple apologist, but please try to get your facts straight when you do. According to AT&T themselves, there is no more revenue sharing with Apple on iPhone subscriptions. So you guys can take that stale, old argument and toss it out the window.

 

[B. Hunter]

I Want 3.0 For Free!

Damn, I want every Apple software upgrade for free now. Who cares if people work hard to make programs for us to use.
Never ceases to amaze me that people bitch and complain about freebees.
Go buy an iPhone just so you can get 3.0 for free.
Enough of the entitlement mentality already.

 

[mavis]

Go buy an iPhone just so you can get 3.0 for free.

Exactly my point! I find it absolutely ridiculous that I can get 3.0 for free on my iPhone, but not on my 2G iPod touch. WTH?! There's no more revenue sharing, so that's not it - why does my iPhone qualify for free upgrades but my iPod touch doesn't? Lame!! I don't give a rat's *** about Apple's internal accounting; all I care about, as a customer, is why they're nickel-and-diming lowly iPod owners but not iPhone owners. It's asinine, in my opinion. I thought so back when 2.0 was released, and I'm even more annoyed by it this time, now that revenue sharing has been done away with for almost a year. Apple can collect that $10 from all of their loyal sheep, but I will acquire 3.0 for free, just like I did with 2.0 ... It's the principal of the thing.

And with that, I'm off. I've learned through experience that it is impossible to reason with Apple apologists and it simply a waste of energy. If you want to throw your hard earned money away to line Apple's pockets, be my guest. I'd rather not.