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90nm G5 Supplies Improving?

I don't even care how fast they are now 2.6 or 3.0 does not matter to me, all that matters is they lower the price across the board by $100, and put the Radeon 9600 as the base graphics card!! I want to play warcarft on a Rev. B G5, and I want to have it now! Please ship these before the end of June, summer is only so long!
 
J-Squire said:
Was just about to post mine.......

I was REALLY hoping for 3GHz come WWDC. I am suprised that they have spent 12 months preparing for this Rev B and it will only be a 2.6GHz. I will just cling to the faint hope that they have only seeded these speeds in order to keep the cat in the bag
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You never know...maybe 2.6GHz will replace the entry level 1.6GHz, and we'll have 3GHz systems 'paper launched' at WWDC, with actual availability in September, just like the original G5 launch.

In fairness to Apple, I don't think Apple itself has spent 12 months preparing for Rev. B...more like they've waited this long for IBM to solidify their supplies of faster PPC970 and PPC970FX chips...which is what the article was about.

3GHz or not, a 600MHz increase over the previous top-end (or put it another way, a 30% jump) is quite a welcome improvement, and will push the G5s back into serious competition with newer Opteron, Athlon 64 and Pentium 4 systems.
 
numediaman said:
Unfortunately, what you are advocating is a "sales" strategy -- and Steve Jobs isn't one for sales strategies. Which is too bad really.

You won't sell displays if you aren't selling PowerMacs. The only other way is to get people to upgrade their current displays -- but you get into using price cuts as an incentive again (which exactly what should be done, of course).

I just wish Jobs were more aggressive. I understand their reluctance to cut margins -- but we are talking about products that are gathering dust on the shelves, right?
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Obviously, the Brilliant Savings promotion has not moved many displays. Duh, the faithful are waiting for the new PMs and no incentive on old G5s and even older displays will move them. Release the damn new PMs and the old displays will move with them. It's not like you're going to hear, I'm not buying a new 2.6 (or higher) until they upgrade the displays.
 
greenmonsterman said:
The 2.6's are just OC's 2ghz models... lol
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Vlade said:
No their not, the 2.0GHZ machines are over-clocked 1.8 machines (thats what IBM has specified them to work at), but the new chips are going to be rated at 2.6 from IBM.
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If Apple is indeed receiving 2.6 Ghz rated chips, then it's reasonable to assume that they could overclock them to somewhere near the 3 Ghz mark. Dual 2.8 doesn't quite have the same ring to it, but it would definitely suffice for me.
 
rdowns said:
Obviously, the Brilliant Savings promotion has not moved many displays. Duh, the faithful are waiting for the new PMs and no incentive on old G5s and even older displays will move them. Release the damn new PMs and the old displays will move with them. It's not like you're going to hear, I'm not buying a new 2.6 (or higher) until they upgrade the displays.
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maybe they want to announce both at the same time to create more of a buzz... I can just hear Steve say, "now that we have these faster machines, should we be using a display from a generation ago? No? So what do you think we should have made? How about this..." and then he shows right after he displays the faster powermacs.
 
one more thing, at the store that I work at, we do have an xserve G5 instock... so they are shipping, just very slowly.
 
WTF? No 3GHz within a year like steve promised? AAAAAAH!!! THIS IS ANARCHY! Not to mention bad business, like, oh "100 million songs within a year and 30 million of that will come from the iTunes/Pepsi giveaway!" NOT. "3GHz within a year!" NOT. C'mon apple, get with the program already.
 
plastree said:
If Apple is indeed receiving 2.6 Ghz rated chips, then it's reasonable to assume that they could overclock them to somewhere near the 3 Ghz mark. Dual 2.8 doesn't quite have the same ring to it, but it would definitely suffice for me.
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Actually, no, it's not reasonable what you're asking. if the chips are rated as 2.6 ghz by manufacturer, you best use them as 2.6 ghz or risk a major consumer backlash.

"Flaming Powermacs: Overclocked G5s Burn House Down!"

Also the rumor says nothing about at what clock the G5 shipments are coming in. It onlys says that test units are in the 2.2 - 2.6 range. If test units top out at 2.6, then I'd venture to guess that the actual shipping G5s will be slower.

I was really enjoying yesterday's croquer.free.fr rumor about how Apple was bypassing the 970fxs altogether and going for the 975 juggernaut. 3.2 ghz this summer, it said. Sigh, only a fantasy...
 
carletonmusic said:
Here come the "No 3GHz???" complaints.....
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That's why you should have also mentioned this:

According to the source, all of the test models were equipped with dual processors ranging in speeds from 2.2GHz to 2.6GHz. The source, however, notes that there is no indication that configurations of the test units represent final specs for Power Macs that would be sent to production.
 
Apple Employee Sale

Apple's current "employee sale" (discounted products available to employees and their friends ) runs through June 25. Often, the sale indicates which products Apple is trying to clear out of its inventory to pave the way for new products. All 3 of the current G5 models are on the current sale list (1.6 GHz: $1299; 1.8 Dual: $1999; 2 GHz Dual: $2399). All three of the current flat panel displays are also on the list ($549, $999 and $1499 for the 23-inch Cinema HD).

Because the sale ends three days before the WWDC begins, my guess is no updated Powermacs or displays until June 28, at WWDC.
 
Here is the only way I see steve making good on his promise to deliver a 3 ghz power mac. Here is the lineup:

dual 2.2 ghz
dual 2.6 ghz
single 3.0 ghz

There will also be a slash in cinema displays. I have spoken ...
 
They need to drop the price of the current LCDs so we can get so they can come out with those new monitors!!!!

I know apple is going to make something really cool!
 
iBot said:
Apple's current "employee sale" (discounted products available to employees and their friends ) runs through June 25. Often, the sale indicates which products Apple is trying to clear out of its inventory to pave the way for new products. All 3 of the current G5 models are on the current sale list (1.6 GHz: $1299; 1.8 Dual: $1999; 2 GHz Dual: $2399). All three of the current flat panel displays are also on the list ($549, $999 and $1499 for the 23-inch Cinema HD).

Because the sale ends three days before the WWDC begins, my guess is no updated Powermacs or displays until June 28, at WWDC.
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whats your source?
 
macridah said:
Here is the only way I see steve making good on his promise to deliver a 3 ghz power mac. Here is the lineup:

dual 2.2 ghz
dual 2.6 ghz
single 3.0 ghz

There will also be a slash in cinema displays. I have spoken ...
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Well, it depends on what IBM can ship to Apple in two months time. 2.6GHz at the moment, maybe Apple could overclock that to 2.7GHz on a 900MHz FSB, and sell dual 2.7, dual 2.4 and dual 2.1 machines. Then introduce a dual 3.0 GHz machine at an even higher price premium, a massive price premium, so that Apple would have shipped it, even if the price would put off all but the rich showoffs.

It all depends on what IBM can make. If they can make 200 3.0 GHz G5's, then Apple could use them in a $4999 machine. Lol, knowing a lot of mac users, they'd sell out.
 
Ah c'mon babies. 2.6 looks pretty good over here, outside of Stevo's Reallity Distortion Field. Heck,its better than AMD's top @ 2.4 ghz and it seems that Intel is coming back to 2-2.5 ghz range with its forthcoming line of CPU's. So there you have it.

:{P
 
Hattig said:
Well, it depends on what IBM can ship to Apple in two months time. 2.6GHz at the moment, maybe Apple could overclock that to 2.7GHz on a 900MHz FSB, and sell dual 2.7, dual 2.4 and dual 2.1 machines. Then introduce a dual 3.0 GHz machine at an even higher price premium, a massive price premium, so that Apple would have shipped it, even if the price would put off all but the rich showoffs.

It all depends on what IBM can make. If they can make 200 3.0 GHz G5's, then Apple could use them in a $4999 machine. Lol, knowing a lot of mac users, they'd sell out.
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Yeah,and then spend additional effort,money and resources to figure out how to cool this overclocked beast. Is not gonna happen for 200 pieces of 3.0 ghz.
 
They should go...

SP 2.2
DP 2.4
DP 2.6

This way it doesn't piss off all the people that bought a new dual 2.0... there would still be a huge sense of value because it would out perform the single 2.2. They need a smaller case... sheesh its huge. I also won't buy until they get the I/O throughput all figured out.
 
Processor manufacturers tend to rate their chips well below the point at which there will be a significant risk of failure, so it is certainly possible that Apple could overclock their G5 supplies. However, 400MHz sounds pretty high. Its possible that since IBM sells to the embedded market (where stability is MUCH more important than clock speed usually), that they would put in more of a buffer zone than others, but I don't know.
 
Dual Core?

Its been said that the PPC970 or at least its future derivatives were meant to be multi-core. From what I understand about multi-core processors, the end result is essentially double the speed... or better put (for the average lay-person) double the MHz.

Its not like dual processor configurations where applications need to be multiprocessor aware but (again) might best be regarded as double the speed.

Sure, if Steve shipped high-end PowerMacs with chips boasting dual-core 1.5 GHz G5s, the naysayers will inevitably come out of the woodwork and accuse Apple of shenanagins but for all intents and purposes... it WOULD be a 3 GHz G5.
 
areyouwishing said:
They should go...

SP 2.2
DP 2.4
DP 2.6

This way it doesn't piss off all the people that bought a new dual 2.0...
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Apple will ALWAYS piss off people who bought a computer 2 days before they were updated, it's in the 10 commandments.
 
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