A Breakdown of Tuesday's Possible iPhone Releases

[kyjaotkb]

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I use a 3GS. Dropped it a few times on the pavement from my hands (lets say from 1,20m high). I mean old, hard rocks made pavement. Except from a few scratches on the plastic back and a 1mm dent in the bottom left corner it is in pristine state. I'm not so sure a bare iPhone 4 would have endured bravely such a destiny. It's all about shock absorption. And there plastic helps a lot...

 

[photographypro]

iPhone 4S in October, 6 in June?

From all the rumors, and nothing concrete about a 5, I think Apple will release a 4S in October, and then a "6" in June, to get back on their June schedule. (I say 6 because the 4 was a major update and was the 4th in the lineup).

Also, Apple I don't believe wanted to release a 5 so soon after releasing the Verizon iPhone 4.

 

[ghostlyorb]

To be very honest, I'm gonna be TOTALLY dissapointed with Apple if they don't release the iPhone 5. I've waiting to buy a new phone since June. No iPhone 5 = Samsung Galaxy S2 or Nexus Prime for me. Don't care about how many thumbs down you gonna give me.

I'm with you on that one. I love the iPhone, don't get me wrong.

 

[markmarshall]

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I think apple might be about to reveal refreshed 4 (cheaper) an iPhone 4s And...... Wait for it a new iPod touch (what we think will be the iPhone 5. Tapered design, thin, apple 4s internals

 

[toddybody]

Go ahead, down vote me... see how many ****s i give

Whoa, what a rebel!

 

[myrtlebee]

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I think apple might be about to reveal refreshed 4 (cheaper) an iPhone 4s And...... Wait for it a new iPod touch (what we think will be the iPhone 5. Tapered design, thin, apple 4s internals

That thought has definitely crossed my mine. I could see them making it the sole "iPod" and discontinuing the others.

 

[rockyroad55]

From all the rumors, and nothing concrete about a 5, I think Apple will release a 4S in October, and then a "6" in June, to get back on their June schedule. (I say 6 because the 4 was a major update and was the 4th in the lineup).

Also, Apple I don't believe wanted to release a 5 so soon after releasing the Verizon iPhone 4.

That's 8-9 months between. Anyone who purchases the next iPhone will not be eligible for an upgrade at all. Not even the early adopters since they will be 3-4 months short.

 

[photographypro]

the update rule

That's 8-9 months between. Anyone who purchases the next iPhone will not be eligible for an upgrade at all. Not even the early adopters since they will be 3-4 months short.

ATT's unwritten rule is if your bill is $100 a month or more, you can upgrade every 12 mo. But if less< 18 mo to 2 years. I,ve owned all 4 models, and bought the last 2 the day they came out (was on the news with the 4). However, if the 4S is only faster w new camera, I'm waiting.


When the 4 came out it's camera was compared to the 8mp Sony, and the 4 was as good or better, so the new 8mp Sony camera doesn't impress me.

 

[Nuvi]

Apple did not go with the 300+ PPI display many folks anticipated in the iPad 2, so I think the possibility exists in not implementing a "retina" 4" 1920x1280 for the iPhone 5 (which presents a totally superfluous 576 PPI @ 4"). Other pixel dimensions would introduce a strange compatibility standard for the iOS line (not saying that they couldnt do some kind of 900p screen to achieve the 3XX DPI you say is critical)

Anyways, what dictates viewing distance on device if not screen size? And why does a phone's viewing distance differ inherently from similar devices (iPad/Notebook...etc). It's a paramount factor.

Regarding iPad 2 the Retina display would have probably been too expensive and used too much power due to back light requirements. I believe the magic number of 300 is derived from off set printing. Going over it means higher resolution then normal offset. Just another wild guess but I'll bet developers need to start tinkering with resolutions during 2012 if they want to serve iPad 3 and future iPhone (2012) clients.

Regarding viewing distance the average viewing distance when texting is roughly 36 cm and when surfing the web it's bit over 30 cm. According to studies the task carried out is decisive factor and not the actual mobile phone screen size. If one would build considerably larger display with OS using large fonts and GUI elements then one could assume that the working distance would be greater. However, this is not the current trend.

 

[pmz]

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Thanks for that.

Now can I point out that up until the day of iPad 2 introduction, there was no evidence that product was actually in production...

...except the cases that had been exactly right for months prior.

Yea I'll go with recent history.

 

[brock2621]

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Thanks for that.

Now can I point out that up until the day of iPad 2 introduction, there was no evidence that product was actually in production...

...except the cases that had been exactly right for months prior.

Yea I'll go with recent history.

There were screen and bezel leaks, even white ones

 

[Bryan Bowler]

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I love all the comments from iPhone 4 users saying they've been waiting so long for the next iPhone. I bought the 3GS the week it came out and I've been waiting a lot longer than you folks for the iPhone 4 successor.

For me the iPhone 4S or 5 will be a massive upgrade. I'd prefer it be the 5 but if it's just a 4S it will still be an insane upgrade over what I've got.

That being said, Apple will only be playing catch up with other products, coming out with something just as good as what's out there, and not surpass the specs of other phones. I think that would be a mistake. They want to be the leaders, not the ones playing catch up. It'll still be a successful phone either way. Only a tiny percentage of people (lots of them readers here) that will give up on Apple if they don't release a new design.

Some folks are talking about the long wait since they bought their 3GS. Well, I'm typing this post on my 3G. I'm definitely ready for an upgrade!

Bryan

 

[bushido]

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I think apple might be about to reveal refreshed 4 (cheaper) an iPhone 4s And...... Wait for it a new iPod touch (what we think will be the iPhone 5. Tapered design, thin, apple 4s internals

Yes, cuz apple is gonna make the touch superior to the high priced iphone

Give us one good reason why, after 4 years and already a complete overhaul of the phone in every way possible, would they do another redesign????

The iPhone took 3 years until they redesigned it... All the R&D that went into designing it for just 1 year??? Not a chance...

we r talking about the phone business here. Nokia, htc & samsung poop out a new phone every few months. I sure as hell expect from a company to come out with a new design idea after 1,5 years ...

 

[kiwiboi87]

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To be honest I'm over all the hype and down play, apple will do what apple will do. Iv got a iPhone4, it's good at the momemet. Womt be rushing to upgrade, unless it's a wicked upgrade.

The iPhone is a bit behind of the pack, in terms of OS and hardware.

All I want right now is iOS5, with all of the features. Dont want apple holding anything back. Or I will be pissed

 

[AIP5]

So, Reach9 posted an interesting WSJ article in the iPhone Forums. The article states nothing new, except for the reiteration of the fact that Apple has been working on a thinner and lighter design, but that the details are unclear.

I'm seeing this as a good thing for those interested in a redesigned iPhone 5. Here's why:

This is what most reliable news sources are coming down to. They were told of a redesign by someone inside Apple, which is why they published those "rumors" or as they call it, "reports." But now, many rumor sites like MR and 9to5Mac are saying no 5, only 4S.

That has left them in doubt also. But that's a good thing. Because that means they haven't heard from Apple since. Which is extremely good news, since a) Apple wants this confusion going into its event, and b) this means that Apple hasn't shot down the iPhone 5 rumors.

Viva la iPhone 5!

What do you think Arn?

 

[ChrisTX]

I'm with AIP5 here. I think Apple did a stellar job controlling security leaks here, and that a completely redesigned iPhone is on order Tuesday. I searched, and searched but couldn't find the article discussing Apple execs growing tired of the current form factor. That coupled with all of the case leaks makes me believe something radical is coming. The only way a redesigned iPhone might not be coming is if the new design was too radical, and difficult to produce, as some earlier reports(As far back as July) noted.

 

[MartiNZ]

This is not true. Is the "carpet" concrete?

I have tried so many different ways to replicate this "death grip" and I have not once reproduced it even when trying. This is a complete nonissue- at least for people with white iPhones (which is what I have).

I use a bumper from eBay that looks exactly like the Apple bumper. I got it for $3 and no issues whatsoever. Even if there were a redesigned iPhone 5 I do not see the majority of users using it "naked" - so I can't see the fuss over a bumper (which isn't even needed, likely).

Wait... you prefer plastic buttons to iPhone 4's stainless steel? Ha! Now I've heard it all. Is this going to be the new bandwagon reason behind people calling for a redesigned iPhone?

Wow, I guess this is why different people exist and why we are not all the same with the same experiences. You are seriously lucky but also in some serious denial. I have seen some pretty unbelievable outcomes of trivial treatment of iPhone 4s, and have opted to hold my iPhone 4 in a natural way and as such dropped calls and just generally incurred reception outages, like most people have, or there wouldn't have been a worldwide uproar.

And yes, I too would absolutely prefer having plastic buttons and outside - hence the bumper did make the iPhone 4 nicer, but it was also a dust magnet, as I said earlier, damaged the metal band, and has been said by others, made the device hotter.

Using the device without a cover is always going to be a preferable experience; they just need to improve/revert the design, hence the call for a redesign.

 

[nylonsteel]

re original article

odds are - a ho hum announcement - ip4s thingy

unless steve jobs appears and says "oh and just one more thing..." - he whips out the sexy tapered edge2edge screen - (rendered and mocked up on macrumors) fully functional - ip5 designed by jony ives

otherwise - samsung galaxy s ii hd lte and nexus prime will step up to bat - as though on steroids

 

[iJcaP]

So, Reach9 posted an interesting WSJ article in the iPhone Forums. The article states nothing new, except for the reiteration of the fact that Apple has been working on a thinner and lighter design, but that the details are unclear.

I'm seeing this as a good thing for those interested in a redesigned iPhone 5. Here's why:

This is what most reliable news sources are coming down to. They were told of a redesign by someone inside Apple, which is why they published those "rumors" or as they call it, "reports." But now, many rumor sites like MR and 9to5Mac are saying no 5, only 4S.

That has left them in doubt also. But that's a good thing. Because that means they haven't heard from Apple since. Which is extremely good news, since a) Apple wants this confusion going into its event, and b) this means that Apple hasn't shot down the iPhone 5 rumors.

Viva la iPhone 5!

What do you think Arn?

I completely agree with you. Apple wants confusion going on in the blogs to make up for what happend with the iPhone 4 leak by Gizmodo.

 

[WatchTheThrone]

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Apple knows they messed up with the iPhone 4 leak AND the iPad 2 leak as well.
So I'm thinking what if they do have an iPhone 5 BUT they only have a few prototypes at apple tied down with security protecting them??
What if they don't want a leak so bad that they hold out on making them cuz that's where all the leaks come from right!?
I hope they announce ios5 along with the cheaper 4 and then Steve says 1MORE THING....introducing the iPhone 5.
4 inch retina screen.
Thinner than an iPad 2.
A5 dual core processor to assist the assistant.
1gb of ram
64 gb of storage capacity
And coming in 2 weeks
If I'm correct you all owe me lunch

 

[Djlild7hina]

if there so happens to be a iphone 5 (redesigned) they did a heck of a job hiding it from us. i don't think they would promote the iphone 4's retina display for just a year and to be shot down the next... unless they improved the ppi for the 4" or w/e screen which there haven't been any leaks about new resolutions.

 

[myrtlebee]

and have opted to hold my iPhone 4 in a natural way and as such dropped calls and just generally incurred reception outages, like most people have, or there wouldn't have been a worldwide uproar.

Where are people having these dropped calls? I don't understand. I hold mine in a normal way. I have used mine in basements, office buildings, even an elevator. I am not in serious denial, but I guess I am "seriously lucky" as you put it. Hard to believe that since I have crap luck.... but apparently everyone else has reception issues and I have not? I am in Maryland. Maybe people are having reception issues because of lack of coverage and not the device itself? Just a thought.

And yes, I too would absolutely prefer having plastic buttons

Why would you want plastic buttons? What possible benefit does that have? Even the 3G/S had metal buttons.

the bumper did make the iPhone 4 nicer, but it was also a dust magnet, as I said earlier, damaged the metal band

Who told you that you were forced to buy an Apple Bumper? I have a third party bumper, as stated earlier, and I haven't had a scratch or damage whatsoever. The bumper combined with back and front "screen protectors" and I've been set since July.

and has been said by others, made the device hotter.

This is absolutely false. The bumper I have has not had any effect on the temperature of the device.

 

[alq]

+1 for Apple's perfect hiding job.

It would really surprise me if they did nothing the last 16 months - casedesignwise.

alq.

 

[iJcaP]

So, Reach9 posted an interesting WSJ article in the iPhone Forums. The article states nothing new, except for the reiteration of the fact that Apple has been working on a thinner and lighter design, but that the details are unclear.

I'm seeing this as a good thing for those interested in a redesigned iPhone 5. Here's why:

This is what most reliable news sources are coming down to. They were told of a redesign by someone inside Apple, which is why they published those "rumors" or as they call it, "reports." But now, many rumor sites like MR and 9to5Mac are saying no 5, only 4S.

That has left them in doubt also. But that's a good thing. Because that means they haven't heard from Apple since. Which is extremely good news, since a) Apple wants this confusion going into its event, and b) this means that Apple hasn't shot down the iPhone 5 rumors.

Viva la iPhone 5!

What do you think Arn?

+1 for Apple's perfect hiding job.

It would really surprise me if they did nothing the last 16 months - casedesignwise.

alq.

I know why wait 16 months to release something that would be NEARLY identical to the previous generation.

 

[Ted13]

To be very honest, I'm gonna be TOTALLY dissapointed with Apple if they don't release the iPhone 5. I've waiting to buy a new phone since June. No iPhone 5 = Samsung Galaxy S2 or Nexus Prime for me. Don't care about how many thumbs down you gonna give me.

So what you are essentially saying is, since the specs will be be identical whether it is called the 4S or 5, you will buy/not buy strictly based on the name.

You might want to think about what that implies about you.