A Breakdown of Tuesday's Possible iPhone Releases

[MartiNZ]

Where are people having these dropped calls? I don't understand. I hold mine in a normal way. I have used mine in basements, office buildings, even an elevator. I am not in serious denial, but I guess I am "seriously lucky" as you put it. Hard to believe that since I have crap luck.... but apparently everyone else has reception issues and I have not? I am in Maryland. Maybe people are having reception issues because of lack of coverage and not the device itself? Just a thought.

Why would you want plastic buttons? What possible benefit does that have? Even the 3G/S had metal buttons.

Who told you that you were forced to buy an Apple Bumper? I have a third party bumper, as stated earlier, and I haven't had a scratch or damage whatsoever. The bumper combined with back and front "screen protectors" and I've been set since July.

This is absolutely false. The bumper I have has not had any effect on the temperature of the device.

Nope this is in the middle of the city where full bars can be reduced to nothing. Oh, and the iPhone is in general worse with reception than most phones - basement of apartment building, iPhone, no service; any other phone, people happily talking ><. Oh, and "the people having these dropped calls" would post about it, but it's pointless, especially with reactions like yours ... oh, and they can't get the signal to post .

Oh I'll do your answers for you if you like: "NO, that is totally false"

More I'm talking about plastic outside, the metal band we have grown to hate, but I would also be happier with plastic buttons a la the iPod Touch ... or are they rubber even? More discreet and more comfortable anyway.

"NO, that is totally false"

Assumed the Apple Bumper would be the most sensible choice for an Apple product - it took the thought process out of it when I wasn't familiar with any others anyway; covers weren't that common for the 4 in NZ at that point. I've been "set" since I stopped using the bumper and made an effort to find a new way to hold the phone.

Actually not sure how you'll respond to that one ... I'm done anyway, feel free to have the last word .

 

[twittertinavane]

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I'm thinking the same thing, too. There's a reason I didn't get the 4: I didn't really like the flat back in the design.

But Arn, our bet is still on. I'm still thinking that Apple this year tightened down all their security (including sending people to raid other people's houses), and has made sure that no leaks ever pass by.

I'm still sticking to my theory, that if there was no iPhone 5, then Apple would have used legit news sources like The Loop and AllthingsD to tame down these wild expectations about the legendary iPhone 5. I still see all of this as deliberate spread of information/rumors on Apple's part to keep the iPhone 5 this year's biggest, and best surprise.

Hope springs eternal

To me is seems a little odd to create a sh**ty iP4 with 8GB storage, half of the lower current end model.Why not just drop the 32GB from the iphone4? It's a bit insulting really, and then to use the difference between the sh**ty N90A to built up the N94.

They were paying $27.00 for the 16GB Samsung NAND 16GB memory 1 1/2 years ago. Surely the price has come down for this.

Apple is beyond greedy With these turtle stepped upgrades

 

[twittertinavane]

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Where are people having these dropped calls? I don't understand. I hold mine in a normal way. I have used mine in basements, office buildings, even an elevator. I am not in serious denial, but I guess I am "seriously lucky" as you put it. Hard to believe that since I have crap luck.... but apparently everyone else has reception issues and I have not? I am in Maryland. Maybe people are having reception issues because of lack of coverage and not the device itself? Just a thought.

Why would you want plastic buttons? What possible benefit does that have? Even the 3G/S had metal buttons.

Who told you that you were forced to buy an Apple Bumper? I have a third party bumper, as stated earlier, and I haven't had a scratch or damage whatsoever. The bumper combined with back and front "screen protectors" and I've been set since July.

This is absolutely false. The bumper I have has not had any effect on the temperature of the device.

Nope this is in the middle of the city where full bars can be reduced to nothing. Oh, and the iPhone is in general worse with reception than most phones - basement of apartment building, iPhone, no service; any other phone, people happily talking ><. Oh, and "the people having these dropped calls" would post about it, but it's pointless, especially with reactions like yours ... oh, and they can't get the signal to post .

Oh I'll do your answers for you if you like: "NO, that is totally false"

More I'm talking about plastic outside, the metal band we have grown to hate, but I would also be happier with plastic buttons a la the iPod Touch ... or are they rubber even? More discreet and more comfortable anyway.

"NO, that is totally false"

Assumed the Apple Bumper would be the most sensible choice for an Apple product - it took the thought process out of it when I wasn't familiar with any others anyway; covers weren't that common for the 4 in NZ at that point. I've been "set" since I stopped using the bumper and made an effort to find a new way to hold the phone.

Actually not sure how you'll respond to that one ... I'm done anyway, feel free to have the last word .

Lol so dead on

 

[myrtlebee]

Nope this is in the middle of the city where full bars can be reduced to nothing. Oh, and the iPhone is in general worse with reception than most phones - basement of apartment building, iPhone, no service; any other phone, people happily talking ><. Oh, and "the people having these dropped calls" would post about it, but it's pointless, especially with reactions like yours ... oh, and they can't get the signal to post .

This is such BS. Again, I have never met anyone with an iPhone 4 who has had reception issues. I bet you roughly half of the posters on this forum have iPhone 4 and are satisfied with it and have not had reception problems. I ask you again- what makes you think it is the phone's design and not coverage issues? I've never had any issues. Things are fine in my state from what I've seen. That leads me to believe it's more coverage- related. You are blaming me for not believing you about having reception issues, yet you don't believe that I don't have them. Got it.

More I'm talking about plastic outside, the metal band we have grown to hate, but I would also be happier with plastic buttons a la the iPod Touch ... or are they rubber even? More discreet and more comfortable anyway.

I have no problems with the steel band and buttons. The plastic buttons look cheap to me. They are only "more descrete" because of the tapered design. They are black on chrome, so that's not that discrete visually. Why not simply propose thinner metal buttons that are color matched? Why is this being discussed as a wanted feature for iPhone 5. I feel like you are arguing for the sake of arguing with that one.

Assumed the Apple Bumper would be the most sensible choice for an Apple product - it took the thought process out of it when I wasn't familiar with any others anyway; covers weren't that common for the 4 in NZ at that point. I've been "set" since I stopped using the bumper and made an effort to find a new way to hold the phone.

You are in New Zealand? That would likely explain some of your reception issues.

Actually not sure how you'll respond to that one ... I'm done anyway, feel free to have the last word .

Thanks for it.

 

[pmz]

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Thanks for that.

Now can I point out that up until the day of iPad 2 introduction, there was no evidence that product was actually in production...

...except the cases that had been exactly right for months prior.

Yea I'll go with recent history.

There were screen and bezel leaks, even white ones

You mean like the bezel photos that leaked over a month ago with the wide home button?

 

[Illumination]

I know why wait 16 months to release something that would be NEARLY identical to the previous generation.

Umm, the first three generations of the iPhone are all pretty much the same design. The iPhone 4 was the first redesign last year.

 

[PAPO]

I was at the flagship cube store in NY on 5th Ave (my first time in NYC during my first trip to the US) took some pics of what you I could see, and was told the place should be opening up again on Tuesday (and I'm leaving 1st thing tuesday morning so the NYC stop of this trip is mostly a bust now) with the product announcement and when I said iPhone to my mum the guy got a little defensive, so I think Apple has told them what's happening even though they usually don't seem to

 

[roznstyle]

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Enough with the tapered design. Will not happen! There is zero material evidence to suggest it either. The "case leaks" mean nothing other than some manufacturers are jumping the gun with bad intel.

 

[brock2621]

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Thanks for that.

Now can I point out that up until the day of iPad 2 introduction, there was no evidence that product was actually in production...

...except the cases that had been exactly right for months prior.

Yea I'll go with recent history.

There were screen and bezel leaks, even white ones

You mean like the bezel photos that leaked over a month ago with the wide home button?

Show me a picture of a leaked production bezel with an elongated home button.

 

[Koura]

I was at the flagship cube store in NY on 5th Ave (my first time in NYC during my first trip to the US) took some pics of what you I could see, and was told the place should be opening up again on Tuesday (and I'm leaving 1st thing tuesday morning so the NYC stop of this trip is mostly a bust now) with the product announcement and when I said iPhone to my mum the guy got a little defensive, so I think Apple has told them what's happening even though they usually don't seem to

maybe the guy was just nervous because your mum is hawwwwt

 

[lantinian]

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Here is why we will not see an iPhone 5.

The iPhone 4 was the 4th iPhone made by Apple right?

Well the iPhone 4S has to be the 5th then.

If Apple is to announce a new teardrop design alongside the iPhone 4S, it will be Apple's 6th iPhone model. Therefore, they should call it iPhone 6, not iPhone 5.

However, I very much doubth they will do that since the A6 chips are not yet ready and it makes no sense for Apple to release an iPhone 6 with an A5 chip.

The iPhone 5 name appearing around just refers to the placeholder for Apple' 5th iPhone. Since no official anouncdment is made on how it will be called, people just referred it as the iPhone 5.

We now know that it will be called the iPhone 4S

Sorry guys. The teardrop iPhone 6 may come next year when they have LTE, the A6 and the big screen resolution figured out

 

[iJcaP]

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Those phones came out in a 12 month interval. This time we waited 16 months. There is no way they would let out something small with such a significant back up. I'm not saying there's a tear drop design coming I'm just saying the next phone will be more significant than just under-the-hood updates

 

[lantinian]

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It's not small at all. Actually if you try to take all factors into accout, the iPhone 4S scores better than any teardrop iPhone Apple can produce right now

Read my latest post: http://lantinian.blogspot.com/2011/09/about-iphone-4s.html

 

[Thex1138]

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The teardrop case and subsequent hardware look more akin to iPod Touch... Since it looks like a few iPod lines are ending this and next year... iPod touch takes the reins...

 

[Anonymous Freak]

To be very honest, I'm gonna be TOTALLY dissapointed with Apple if they don't release the iPhone 5. I've waiting to buy a new phone since June. No iPhone 5 = Samsung Galaxy S2 or Nexus Prime for me. Don't care about how many thumbs down you gonna give me.

So, uh, how do you define "iPhone 5"? What is wrong with the specs listed as "iPhone 4S"? If they release the "iPhone 4S" spec machine as "iPhone 5", would you buy it?

What about if they release the "iPhone 5" spec machine as "iPhone 4S"? Define "iPhone 5" please...

 

[CalWizrd]

Yeah, there's gonna be an iPhone 5... No, wait. No, it's just gonna be the 4S. No, I'm sure it'll be an iPhone 5. Um, no, it's probably just the iPhone 4S. No, it's gotta be an iPhone 5. Hold on... it must be just the iPhone 4S. No, has to be ... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

 

[backinblack875]

since I'm not a spec whore, ill be getting it either way.

 

[Man9z0r]

I can understand iPhone 5 being a place holder but I don't know why people are holding on to it so much. I would lean on the side that it is a iPhone 4S simply because they had a iPhone 3g then 3gs now the iPhone 4 and that could easily go to a iPhone 4S.

Also I don't know why when Apple has the top selling phone people seem to think they need to keep redesigning it. They are doing something right if everyone is buying their phone. So to the few people that say if it is not an iPhone 5 or have a redesign "I am not going to buy it!" I am sure are the same people I will see in line waiting for it.

 

[acslater017]

This has got to be one for the more mysterious Apple events. Two days out, and I'm still not sure what to expect. Every leak seems to point towards an "iPhone 4S" - part leaks, inventory descriptions, iOS/iTunes references, etc.

But a few things still make me believe that a fully redesigned iPhone 5 (or whatever they call it) is coming:
-Right or wrong, people associate external design with functional changes. It would be somewhat lackluster to ride ONE phone model 16 months and then re-use the same design for your next-generation phone.
-The iPhone 4 leaked prematurely. Therefore a lack of "iPhone 5" evidence this time around is not really surprising. It is quite possible that they've simply clamped down HARD on unintentional leaks.
-Apple knows how to manipulate the rumor machine in its favor. It will tamp down expectations if they lead to disappointment (e.g. saying explicitly that there would be no new iPhone at WWDC 2011). If rumors of an iPhone 5 were incorrect, Apple would probably intentionally leak things to control expectations.

 

[engg2000]

No iPhone 5

There will be a redesigned iPhone 5 on Tuesday.

Wrong!
Only an iPhone 4s....

 

[marksman]

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I think apple might be about to reveal refreshed 4 (cheaper) an iPhone 4s And...... Wait for it a new iPod touch (what we think will be the iPhone 5. Tapered design, thin, apple 4s internals

Yes, cuz apple is gonna make the touch superior to the high priced iphone

Give us one good reason why, after 4 years and already a complete overhaul of the phone in every way possible, would they do another redesign????

The iPhone took 3 years until they redesigned it... All the R&D that went into designing it for just 1 year??? Not a chance...

we r talking about the phone business here. Nokia, htc & samsung poop out a new phone every few months. I sure as hell expect from a company to come out with a new design idea after 1,5 years ...

"poop out" being the operative part.

Apple makes smartphones to be used two plus years, other companies don't care if you use them for two months.

 

[marksman]

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I'm thinking the same thing, too. There's a reason I didn't get the 4: I didn't really like the flat back in the design.

But Arn, our bet is still on. I'm still thinking that Apple this year tightened down all their security (including sending people to raid other people's houses), and has made sure that no leaks ever pass by.

I'm still sticking to my theory, that if there was no iPhone 5, then Apple would have used legit news sources like The Loop and AllthingsD to tame down these wild expectations about the legendary iPhone 5. I still see all of this as deliberate spread of information/rumors on Apple's part to keep the iPhone 5 this year's biggest, and best surprise.

Hope springs eternal

To me is seems a little odd to create a sh**ty iP4 with 8GB storage, half of the lower current end model.Why not just drop the 32GB from the iphone4? It's a bit insulting really, and then to use the difference between the sh**ty N90A to built up the N94.

They were paying $27.00 for the 16GB Samsung NAND 16GB memory 1 1/2 years ago. Surely the price has come down for this.

Apple is beyond greedy With these turtle stepped upgrades

What does that make the android handset makers who deliver two identical new devices every month?

 

[lantinian]

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>>They are doing something right if everyone is buying their phone.

Absolutely. They have designed the perfect 1 HAND smarthphone on the planet. There are no other phones in the 3.5pm class that come even close to the iPhone. The only devices that are stealing it's thunder are Galaxy S II like big screen phones.

>>Also I don't know why when Apple has the top selling phone people seem to think they need to keep redesigning it.
Apple has until recently always been the maker of the highest end product. The concern of many people is that Apple competitors have pushed the smartphone envelope to a new height and have made the iPhone look like a mid-range product.

These huge 4+ inch screen devices are impractical for 1 hand use, but if your phone is to be your main computer, they make a lot of sense as you need a bigger device ergonomically for efficien TWO hand use.

Apple so far has declined to introduce a TWO hand smartphone and that is actually costing them market share in an segment where they should have any competitors.

The teardrop iPhone size and proportions suggested that Apple was planning to address that. Guess it will be next year.

It is another question entirely of how the form factor of an efficient two hand touch screen phone should be, but let's just say that nobody has done one so far correctly.

 

[derlockere]

To be very honest, I'm gonna be TOTALLY dissapointed with Apple if they don't release the iPhone 5. I've waiting to buy a new phone since June. No iPhone 5 = Samsung Galaxy S2 or Nexus Prime for me. Don't care about how many thumbs down you gonna give me.

I'm with you, tested several Android phones in the last month.

My only advice: Don't mess around with any add-on UI on plain Android and go with the Google phone!!!!

updated a Samsung Galaxy S to 2.2 and afterwards it was not recognized by any PC / MAC anymore via USB. Had to flesh a Cyanogenmod on it to get it in good working order again.

 

[marksman]

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This has got to be one for the more mysterious Apple events. Two days out, and I'm still not sure what to expect. Every leak seems to point towards an "iPhone 4S" - part leaks, inventory descriptions, iOS/iTunes references, etc.

But a few things still make me believe that a fully redesigned iPhone 5 (or whatever they call it) is coming:
-Right or wrong, people associate external design with functional changes. It would be somewhat lackluster to ride ONE phone model 16 months and then re-use the same design for your next-generation phone.
-The iPhone 4 leaked prematurely. Therefore a lack of "iPhone 5" evidence this time around is not really surprising. It is quite possible that they've simply clamped down HARD on unintentional leaks.
-Apple knows how to manipulate the rumor machine in its favor. It will tamp down expectations if they lead to disappointment (e.g. saying explicitly that there would be no new iPhone at WWDC 2011). If rumors of an iPhone 5 were incorrect, Apple would probably intentionally leak things to control expectations.

Odds of you being disappointed are about 90% right now. Why not embrace the excitement of the most likely truth and then if the very slight chance of a total redesign shows up you will excited.

That way you have a 90% chance of being good w the announcement and 10% over Joyce

With your plan you have a 10% chance of being okay and a 90% chance of being disappointed.

It is pretty clear what path people should take.