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It DOES look very suspicious. The only people that really need to delete individual calls are people who are cheating on their gfs/bfs/spouses. I would figure that the security pin# lock should be sufficient enough to hide any personal information, in the same way that user log-ins do for Mac OS X. It's probably part of Job's agenda to keep the iPhone pure and untainted, like not having porn apps. I could see him spinning it as "not needing to delete history" being that there's up to 16GB worth of space on the phones, perhaps up to 32GB when the new one comes out. I'd actually like to be able to keep longer phone call histories in my opinion, like Safari does for internet histories in Mac OS X.

I'd like to see you complain to your significant other about how you can't delete individual calls (assuming you have one).

So, Steve Jobs wants to govern our social lives? I don't think so. How do you explain the hide-a-caller apps then?
 
I do hope that this is a bigger upgrade than the classic to the 3G.

Since when did Rev A switch to "classic"?? When did 1st Gen switch to "classic"??

I remember the days of old, when people would mention Rev C and Rev D and compare differences... not the whole "i___ classic compared to new i___"
 
We're talking about the standard, third-generation iPhone that will be released in June.


unless Apple had an announcement about a new iphone there is no 'will' currently. just a 'might'.

yes they released new phones in june/july for the last couple of years but that is no guarantee that another one will definitely be released this summer. in fact, considering that ATT doesn't seem to be working on anything new with the network, like a 4g speed, what reason is there to release a new phone. unless maybe it is the upcoming red and pink phones you can already get on ebay.

so why not take a page from those that said that a new imac was definitely going to be announced at Macworld and just wait before we talk about what is going to happen
 
Name: iPhone 3g Pro
Mem: 16GB, 32GB
WiFi: 802.11 b,g,n
Cameras: Front and Back, both supporting video capture mode, 4MB pixel
Screen: 3.5 inch LED, 540 by 360 resolution (special graphic drivers will ensure backward compatability with 480 by 320)

Yes...I know...these are easy predictions...what's on your wish list?

They aren't easy predictions, they're stupid ones. I really hate it when people do this kind of thing. It's like they haven't been paying attention.

It will not be called iPhone Pro. Think about it. :rolleyes:
 
This AT&T/iPhone monopoly is hurting sales big time. Other cell carriers need to come on board. Like t-mobile.

they can't. this whole issue is no secret.

ATT ponied up money to help develop the phone and thus get an exclusive contract out of it. They were chosen as the only company supporting the needed technology and willing to pay but keep their mouths shut on the device specs.

Until that contract is settled, no other carrier can legally support the iPhone. this is not something new. T-Mobile has the sidekick, Verizon has the Storm, Sprint has the Instinct.

and given that the Iphone 3g was the quickest of the current smart phones to hit a million units, it doesn't seem like sales are hurting that bad.
 
what do you guys think the possibility is of introducing a 32gb iphone? It's possible with the touch, why hasn't it been brought down to the iphone? That's really the only thing that's held me back from getting an iphone, I want to be able to carry all my music...

Do people still seriously ask this question? Here's a reminder ... AGAIN!

The iPhone contains the additional HARDWARE necessary for utilizing it as a PHONE in addition to the features of the iPod. The iPod, on the other hand, does not require this additional hardware to take up space, therefore additional storage gets easily placed inside.

There is a single 32GB flash chip available now though - that's what sparked the discussion of a 32GB iPhone and a 64GB iPod touch.

This may be true ... but as soon as they release the 32GB iPhone and the 64GB iPod, some people will start with the "why is there a 64GB iPod and no 64GB iPhone?". You can't overcome the inability of some people's comprehension.

Hell, my first hard drive was a whoppin' 47 MBs (paid almost $700 for it as well). Okay, I admit it... I'm old.

I must be older since my first hard drive was 20MB, over $900, and attached to my Commodore 128. What a classic that was! ;)
 
Okay, I'll let you win if you want <grin>...

I must be older since my first hard drive was 20MB, over $900, and attached to my Commodore 128. What a classic that was! ;)

I'm not really gonna say exactly how old I am, but just because I said my first HD was that size, doesn't mean it was the first one I could have had...:D

Anyone old enough to remember that the Apple external 800K disk drive for the Mac 512K required a system extension/driver with ”hard drive“ in the name?

My iPhone has more processing power than NASA used to put a man on the moon.:eek:
 
Any word if the useragent reported screen res? Does the current iPhone/Touch report it's display resolution correctly (via javascript) in Safari right??
 
I'm not really gonna say exactly how old I am, but just because I said my first HD was that size, doesn't mean it was the first one I could have had...

Anyone old enough to remember that the Apple external 800K disk drive for the Mac 512K required a system extension/driver with ”hard drive“ in the name?

Unfortunately, I'm old enough to remember everything since the beginning of time (aka ... the history of Apple). LOL
 
:apple:Who said its ALWAYS June?:confused::apple:
I could see March or April.


Maybe you could but it doesn't seem Tim Cook does. At the conf. call last week he pretty much shouted that June/July has become the defacto iPod update period just as iPods are updated in September.

Honestly, this whole thread seems like it belongs on Page 2. Apple is testing a new iPhone but we have zero details about it. Yawn. That is kind of like the New York Time reporting that President Obama had lunch today.
 
Any word if the useragent reported screen res? Does the current iPhone/Touch report it's display resolution correctly (via javascript) in Safari right??

They did not. Read Here

A quote from the above link ...

"That’s all we’ve got - we don’t know what this is, what it does, what the display resolution is (sorry, tablet fans!) or when it’s going to be released."
 
My guess is they want more power for better games/apps, but won't go there until a new battery can handle it. The same is true for video (and thus iChat) and I guess you need more battery for copy/paste:D. Apple's perspective may be: How is more power important to the consumer? Better Apps. Thus, WWDC would be a good place/time to showcase it. :)
 
iPhone Nano not neccessarily a bad thing!

If it was smaller and it had another name other than just iPhone, they could possibly pack more sophisticated hardware inside. Especially with the falling prices in flash memory and smaller CPU's, it might not be a negative to have a thinner and lighter design. But does anyone agree they should go back to the metal casing design. It matches well with the new unibody macbooks. It's one of the many reasons I never upgraded to the 3G.
 
I must be older since my first hard drive was 20MB, over $900, and attached to my Commodore 128. What a classic that was! ;)

:D My first hard drive was on a Mac SE/20 (also a 20MB) which I thought was cooler than rockets since my first computer, a Commodore 64, only used floppies, the floppy 5.25" kind. It took 10 minutes to load one lousy program. Seems like living in the Middle Ages now. I also had a spiffy 300 baud modem so I could logon to the local BBS. Geez. It was like living in the Middle Ages!
 
seriously, grow up. deleting individual numbers does NOT indicate cheating. i'm single and DATE a ton of women...all of whom would love to get access to my phone (aka. little black book) and see what competition they are up against.....and then either delete another woman's number or see who I've been chatting with.

it's no ones business who i call or talk to. so i (and others) would benefit with the ability to delete select numbers/calls/texts/etc.

now that i think about it.....maybe YOU'RE the one cheating because that's the first thing you thought about when the other guy made the request to delete individual calls.

I completely agree that your information on your phone is private, including your call history. I'm just saying having a pin lock is a more universal way to secure your information across the board.

I have a pin on my phone incase I lose it or it get's stolen. And my bf knows it so when I'm not around he can play games or something. And if he snoops, I have nothing to hide.

Either way you're being deceptive, whether or not it is ACLU kosher for someone to find out about it. or it And I think Job's knew this when he was creating the iPhone. Instead of making it easier for people to be deceptive, he made it harder (or more annoying), so that people would have to use a pin every time they wanted to access your phone for those (brace for theatrics) casual douchebags with nothing truly classified other than hiding their string of love affairs. Or force that awkward conversation after denying someone to use your phone when they ask you why not. I mean, you can delete individual voice messages. So it's obviously something that could have been done the first time around. And I think he knew he could do this because he knows that (excuse the hyperbole) everyone wants an iPhone. It's a sort of trade off one has to make if that was something that truly bothered them.

The issue here is not your preferences (nor mine) and not p0rn (nor cheating). It's all about control: the user must be able to delete any data if they so wish -- the device must not prohibit it.

Or, put another way: "Who's the boss?". ;)

OS X has been described as a 'butler', always there when needed but not needlessly interrupting the user (cf. Windows notifications, confirmations etc.). With some minor improvements, iPhone will be more butler-like :)

So to put it this way - Steve's the boss.

(p.s. - totally just ********ting here. no hard feelings guys.)

Who knows? It might even be a new feature for iPhone 2,1 and I'll be biting my tongue. We'll see.
 
:D My first hard drive was on a Mac SE/20 (also a 20MB) which I thought was cooler than rockets since my first computer, a Commodore 64, only used floppies, the floppy 5.25" kind. It took 10 minutes to load one lousy program. Seems like living in the Middle Ages now. I also had a spiffy 300 baud modem so I could logon to the local BBS. Geez. It was like living in the Middle Ages!

For the record ...

It WAS the middle ages! :D

(scary part is ... I actually remember them)
 
Apple numbers their mobile devices like this:

<name of device><processor>,<version>

So the iPod Touch 1G was labeled <ipod1,1> and since the new one got a new processor, it was labeled <ipod2,1>.

The iPhone 3G and the original had the same processor, so it went from <iphone1,1> to <iphone1,2>.

The name <iphone2,1> means it is the first model of the iPhone with the second processor (the one already in the new iPod Touch).
 
Hopefully Apple wides up here.

..... My other guess is that Apple will start allowing limited background applications (maybe one or apps at a time?!) since push notification is more than 4 months overdue.
It is my hope that Apple wides up here as Push Notifications don't even solve the same problems that background apps or multi tasking does. Multi tasking, background apps or whatever you want to call them just explode the possibilities for a wide array of apps that are not currently possible. Push in no way can offer anything for theses sorts of apps, not that push doesn't have it's place.

Now I'm not so certain this sort of capability can be back porter to existing hardware. The problem is the lack of memory in my mind and possibly processor power. Given that a Cortex CPU could have more than twices the performance at the same power level the CPU won't be a problem for long. RAM shouldn't be an issue either in the same power profile. In other words I've seen enough issues with performance on my iPhone to have mixed feelings about multi tasking on it. What is obvious is that this is not a limitation of future devices.

Dave
 
Sometimes a manufacturer will make engineering changes to a product and not change it's outward appearance of functionality. The reason might be that they are switching suppliers for some intenal parts to save cost. For all we know this could be what's going on. Some internal change that save's Apple $5 per phone. The thing is that we don't know
 
While a better battery is always welcomed it isn't the issue here.

My guess is they want more power for better games/apps, but won't go there until a new battery can handle it.
The battery isn't the issue with respect to power. The new chips from ARM should be able to offfer up a great deal better performance for the watt expended. In fact performance ought to be similar to ATOM. On top of that a lot of the support chips in an iPhone have been supplanted by newer more power stingy models. That includes everything from audio amps to WiFI / Bluetooth chips.

While a better battery is nice I don't see that keeping Apple from delivering better performance.
The same is true for video (and thus iChat) and I guess you need more battery for copy/paste:D. Apple's perspective may be: How is more power important to the consumer? Better Apps. Thus, WWDC would be a good place/time to showcase it. :)

Time is running out but I disagree with some of the above too. Part of the problem is just that there hasn't been enough development time / resources for Apple to finish off Mobile OS.


Dave
 
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