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A Maxed Out Mac Mini With Full Upgrades Will Cost You $4,200
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There's no reason to buy the pricey 2TB storage option on a Mac mini that has fast I/O ports and very few people will get 64GB of RAM, (overkill for most Mac mini uses) so subtracting those extravagances, the price is a lot more reasonable.
The old Mac Pro isn't looking too good right now...
The old Mac Pro isn't looking too good right now...
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Yeah Apple should absolutely not try to make as much money for their investors and stock holders as possible.
/sarcasm
Sorry. Corrected the original post. I was mistaken. Apparently, I missed that part of the keynote...
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Honestly, I think I must have been reading reddit at that moment...
I corrected the original post and apologized for the mistake.Relax man. Some people make mistakes. Unlike you
Yeah, I goofed.. oops!
The same spec'd pc (with much better graphics) without any rebates/sales/shopping around can be bought for around $2,280 for comparison. Just parting it out with current rebates, I was able to do a shopping cart build of the same desktop pre-tax for $1,817. And that's with ~14x more powerful graphics capabilities on the PC. You can run OSX on both, as well.
So you're paying ~2x the price for the maxed Mac Mini, which will not be for 'serious performance.' It has intel UHD graphics. That alone will be a huge bottleneck, honestly, making it pointless to max out unless you want to invest in eGPU's, adding even more to the cost.
I think everyone can agree that Apple needs to cut back on the ridiculous upgrade premiums. Seriously, $1,000+ premium over retail price for the flash storage upgrade? It's just silly.
Shame it's (Mac Mini) never perfect, they had the chance but didn't.
Good processors, no Discrete graphics, too expensive too.
If the price included a decent GPU it would be near to perfect.
Just see what iFixit comes up with next week, hope the storage can be upgraded as well.
Good processors, no Discrete graphics, too expensive too.
If the price included a decent GPU it would be near to perfect.
Just see what iFixit comes up with next week, hope the storage can be upgraded as well.
Do not wait for the iFixit, the storage is glued to the motherboard.
It might be possible to upgrade it with pro tools, but rarely anyone have skill and knowledge to do that. And then there's the dreaded T2.
Did I miss something, where does it say it's glued, genuine question, not saying you're wrong.
That's the coloquialism from my side. I know proper term is soldered.
Take a look at this. Then take a look at some images from Mac Mini page. It definitely looks soldered.
Heck, I didn't even hear it, that's why I asked if it was confirmed one way or the other ... yeah, no sweat!
The NAND can be seen on some of the internal pictures released today. But the glue and solder issue is trivial compared to the fact that the NAND flash really is just that - it is not an SSD. To function as an SSD the raw NAND needs a controller and on the latest Macs that is provided by the T2.
All I can say that this Intel UHD630 is one pathetic piece of turd. It even struggles with launcher animations and Apple’s translucency effects in macOS.
For me this mac Mini is DOA. Very soon entire Apple will be DOA. I give them 4-5 years tops to realize all their cultists have abandoned them. They might go the Vertu way. Extreme high end. My income is not increasing proportionately to the rate of prices getting jacked up by Apple.
For me this mac Mini is DOA. Very soon entire Apple will be DOA. I give them 4-5 years tops to realize all their cultists have abandoned them. They might go the Vertu way. Extreme high end. My income is not increasing proportionately to the rate of prices getting jacked up by Apple.
No discreet graphics makes it a no go for me. I find that 512gb storage is a sweet spot for ssd storage as it just gets too expensive. I keep big stuff on separate drives anyway.
I guess I'm gonna spend my money on a 15" MBP w/ Vega
I guess I'm gonna spend my money on a 15" MBP w/ Vega
Not soldered doesn't mean user-accessible. The iMac Pro's RAM is not soldered, but I can say with certainty that is not an upgrade project I would ever attempt after spending thousands on a brand new Mac...
Funny how they show a Mac mini and relate it to server use, yet unless any other decent server, you can‘t change the storage with something that you can cut costs in bulk with, and their storage even maxes out at 2 TB.
Sticking with my 2012 modular one.
Sticking with my 2012 modular one.
You have often been able to configure desktop Macs to silly prices if you max them out. I am not overjoyed by the new Mini but it's not completely disappointing to me either. I'm feeling more 'relieved' than happy or disappointed. I'll still be waiting to see what the next Mac Pro is like before deciding on my next desktop Mac though, I think. Just glad this option is going to be there, for me and others.
Except they use very specific language with the iMac Pro:
"... not user accessible ...", even though we know it's not soldered, since it's clearly shown in the cutaway view, and Apple can actually upgrade it after-the-fact.
As opposed to this from the new Mini info:
That seems to suggest it's both not soldered and [by omission of contrary information] reasonably user accessible. The cutaway view looks like my two 2012 models, so even if there's a little extra cooling hardware in the bottom, I think the implication is, yes, it's like the old Mini, you can upgrade the RAM with minimal effort.