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Sweet spot is 6-Core with 16GB and 1TB for $1,899 or down to the 512.

The lower end Quad-Core upgraded to the same 16 and 1TB is $1,799. No brainer.

This is exactly the config I would consider. But Jesus... $1899. Macrumors really needs a page dedicated to "how to pitch buying this to your significant other"... with suggested rebuttals and everything.
 
The UK Apple Store site for the new mini displays it being used alongside the 'Pro' mouse, keyboard and trackpad. But these do not appear as options at time of purchase.

For completeness the upgrade options should probably list the keyboard, mouse, trackpad, eGPU and perhaps a suitable display. It would save some calculator time when comparing with something equally cheap and cheerful like an iMac Pro.
[doublepost=1540971738][/doublepost]A quick adding-up brings the total cost of a Mac mini with memory, SSD capacity and peripherals comparable to the base iMac Pro comes to:

£5194.00

Base iMac Pro:

£4899.00

Clearly you get more ports, ECC memory and a Xeon processor with the iMP too.
 
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Apple today introduced a long-awaited refreshed Mac mini, which has been reengineered to take advantage of the newest hardware available on the market.

The Mac mini features 4 and 6-core 8th-generation Intel processors, up to 64GB RAM, four Thunderbolt 3 ports, and up to 2TB of flash storage space.

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The entry-level Mac mini with a 3.6GHz quad-core processor, 8GB RAM, Intel UHD Graphics 630, and a 128GB SSD is available for $799, which is $300 more expensive than the most affordable Mac mini was previously.

A middle-tier base model is available with a 3.0GHz 6-core processor, 8GB RAM, Intel UHD Graphics 630 and a 256GB SSD for $1,099.

Apple has added plenty of upgrade options aimed at pro level Mac mini users who want the fastest desktop-class machine in the smallest package.

A maxed out Mac mini with a 3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7 processor, Intel UHD Graphics 630, 64GB RAM, a 2TB SSD, and upgraded 10 Gigabit Ethernet is priced at a whopping $4,199.

Despite the high price tag, the upgrade options should make Mac mini customers who were awaiting more powerful features happy with this year's refresh. Prior to today, the Mac mini had not been updated since 2014.

The new Mac mini is available for pre-order today and orders will be delivered starting on November 7.

Article Link: A Maxed Out Mac Mini With Full Upgrades Will Cost You $4,200
Don't forget the spiffy matching apple keyboard and mouse is a extra $248.00. I would have liked to see more than Intel 630 graphics in a premium priced computer. But hey you get the t2 chip.
 
Lots of folks spouting negative things. Darn people, if you want it buy it, if you don't want it take a pass. If the pricing offends you then start your own company if you think you can make it cheaper. The free advice given out to one of the (if not "the") most profitable company ever on how they should run their business is comical.

I love my mini that has served me well for five years as my office computer and was happy to replace it this morning. I got the 6 core with 16gig and 512. It will serve the same function well for the next five years. Yes, the old one is still working, though it has developed some quirks.

The key for me is OSX or Mac OS. I use my office system for day to day essential, though mostly administrative, work. I show up for work and need to work. I get that with OSX. I am the head/CEO of an organization that is populated by windows machines and people struggling to use them effectively, manage malware and viruses and deal with conflicted updates and library (DLL) versions. I avoid all of that and yes I pay a small premium for that functionality.

I am not technically challenged, in fact just the opposite. In prior roles I did network administration (Cisco certified), did web development in the early days (cgi and early versions of Apache!), have developed software for Linux, Windows, OSX, IOS and Android. I know what is happening under the hood and that makes me especially interested in OSX for my main system. I am not an apple fan as I hate IOS and most things it runs on.

I just bought a Pixel 3 XL for about the same cost as the Mini, so things are relative. I can assure you the Mini will outlast the Pixel by a long long margin.
 
Yeah, this update pissed me off. More expensive with no storage. My current mini (two generations ago) is our main family computer. I've nearly filled the 1+TB on it, as well as the 3TB external (I have a dual enclosure, using the second for backup). So now I have to spend a ton of money to get the same storage or move everything external. How are you supposed to fit the OS on 256GB? You can't without moving ALL media to an external drive. Even then, who knows how far it will get you.

I'm looking at riding out my current mini for a few years. I don't want an iMac because I use two monitors, but maybe I'll get a used one eventually.

And don't get me started on the new MacBook Air. Apple used to have a reasonable entry-level set of products. Too bad they don't anymore.
 
I changed drives on my late 2012 Mini two times. It was definitely not soldered on. You might be thinking about the 2014 Mini.
I should have re-read my post before sending it. I meant to say NOT soldered on and replaceable. I've opened those Mac Minis so often by now that I could change a drive in under 10 minutes.
 
It's because of Apple's prices that I'd rather buy/build with Ubuntu. They are insane - and the lemmings buy into their megalomania.
 
As expensive as it is I will probably buy 1 or 2 for the studio. I won't be dumb enough to buy apple ram but getting 2 x 32 gb SODIMMs looks like it won't be cheap. Plus I can survive with 1TB SSD. (although 1TB SSD should be standard base config for soldered chips on a pro class machine)
 
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Ouch! that seems a bit much.

Indeed.

We really need to see performance benchmarks with proper reference to real apps to get a better view before committing to that kind of expense.

We all learned from Apple the last four years if that’s going to be the norm for updates; then the top tier is the one to get. “IF”.

How does this compare to the 2018 MBP 13/15”, iPad Pro 11/12.5” and iMac Pro 6/8/10 core machines?
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I’m so happy with this announcement been wating for it since 2012. Upgradable RAM is an amazing bonus. Thanks Tim

Man stop thanking Tim. He has no direct decision in replaceable RAM! He does have a direct decision why it took 4 freaking libro years for a Mac Mini update: bean counter!
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This is why I can’t get behind this company anymore. After four damn years, they couldn’t see fit to come up with a configuration for $499-599? They’re hell-bent on flinging out the affordable, entry-level tier. They yanked the iPhone SE, the flagship phones start at $749, their BYOKDM “Mac for everyone” has jumped up $200-300. I guess I should be happy they kept two useful USB ports.

You know what? Screw this outfit. 25 goddamn years carrying their water, singing their praises, evangelizing the platform, switching over two dozen friends, families and co-workers. I’m done, I’m outta here. Bigger, more important (and interesting) things on this planet than constantly hoping this hipster wet dream of a company will ever pull its head out of its ass. For the first time since 1993, I can’t bring myself to give a damn at any level. When Jobs died he took the soul and vision with him. Period.


Lololololol. This coming from a hipster lol!

The timeline of being a hipster is a lot shorter than 20yrs ... if you said hippy I’d be cheering you along.

Still I feel you and to be honest Steve’s return was all about bringing Apple healthy again so that a demise would never happen again. Heck one of the new board members was CEO of a software that was Mac only specifically stated its about Apple getting healthy again.
 
Lololololol. This coming from a hipster lol!

The timeline of being a hipster is a lot shorter than 20yrs ... if you said hippy I’d be cheering you along.

Still I feel you and to be honest Steve’s return was all about bringing Apple healthy again so that a demise would never happen again. Heck one of the new board members was CEO of a software that was Mac only specifically stated its about Apple getting healthy again.
If you look at apple before Steve's return and apple of today, they are pretty similar.........WAAAAAAAAAAAY too many products and configurations

Apple needs to go back to the strategy that launched them where they are today
Consumer Laptop
Pro Laptop
Consumer Desktop
Pro Desktop

(1) iPhone variant none of this XS, XS Max, XR, 7, and 8 nonsense all at same time
(1) iPad variant, none of this mini, various iPad pros and regular iPads

I mean hell, the notebook line is confusing. Do i get a 12" macbook, a 13" mba,, or a 13" mbp. They all are about the same price and all fairly effing similar

These across the board price SIGNIFICANT increases will push people away. It may work short term but can't be sustainable
 
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Wrong (Mostly), blame it on the shareholders.
Blame it on the stock analysts who are the real evil mongers in "shareholder value".
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Exactly. This article is sensationalist nonsense. Very few people need a 2TB SSD or 64GB of RAM. Pointing out the maximum price only shows that Apple has gone all-out with their offerings. You CAN spend over 4k and get one heck of a computer, or spend less, and still get one heck of a computer, just with less... Seems legit.

I have 2TB SSD on my Mac Mini Mid 2011 now, and it's close to 50% used. The cost to upgrade that was nowhere near $1400. Their SSD cost is insane. Even with TB 3 ports and much cheaper storage arrays, SSD or HD, it will not be as fast.
 
Lots of folks spouting negative things. Darn people, if you want it buy it, if you don't want it take a pass. If the pricing offends you then start your own company if you think you can make it cheaper. The free advice given out to one of the (if not "the") most profitable company ever on how they should run their business is comical.

I love my mini that has served me well for five years as my office computer and was happy to replace it this morning. I got the 6 core with 16gig and 512. It will serve the same function well for the next five years. Yes, the old one is still working, though it has developed some quirks.

The key for me is OSX or Mac OS. I use my office system for day to day essential, though mostly administrative, work. I show up for work and need to work. I get that with OSX. I am the head/CEO of an organization that is populated by windows machines and people struggling to use them effectively, manage malware and viruses and deal with conflicted updates and library (DLL) versions. I avoid all of that and yes I pay a small premium for that functionality.

I am not technically challenged, in fact just the opposite. In prior roles I did network administration (Cisco certified), did web development in the early days (cgi and early versions of Apache!), have developed software for Linux, Windows, OSX, IOS and Android. I know what is happening under the hood and that makes me especially interested in OSX for my main system. I am not an apple fan as I hate IOS and most things it runs on.

I just bought a Pixel 3 XL for about the same cost as the Mini, so things are relative. I can assure you the Mini will outlast the Pixel by a long long margin.


Huh? The 6 core with 16gig and 512 SSD is $1800 which is $800 more than the Pixel 3 XL.
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As expensive as it is I will probably buy 1 or 2 for the studio. I won't be dumb enough to buy apple ram but getting 2 x 32 gb SODIMMs looks like it won't be cheap. Plus I can survive with 1TB SSD. (although 1TB SSD should be standard base config for soldered chips on a pro class machine)

Buying with 8gb and upgrading to 64gb with OWC will only save $300 USD.
OWC RAM 64GB (32GB X 2) is
$1,079.99
 
Is there a reason why 10G is so expensive?
Can't be electronics, those are dirt cheap.
Why not just add an optical/fiber port, oh yeah, I know, optical/fiber cables are fragile, I have fiber at home and some clients (Industrial automation is my job) use them.
You think that's expensive, check out QSFP28 fiber. 100Gb speeds sure aint cheap.
 
Huh? The 6 core with 16gig and 512 SSD is $1800 which is $800 more than the Pixel 3 XL.
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Buying with 8gb and upgrading to 64gb with OWC will only save $300 USD.
OWC RAM 64GB (32GB X 2) is
$1,079.99

Why would anyone buy from OWC?
 
From the stage they said: «we have given the new mac mini an awesome space gray finish, for one, we know our pro customers will love that»

Doesent that mean that this IS the new mac pro, admitting it secretly? The mac mini was never the choice of the pro, even from the beginning? I think apple made a hidden statement just there.
 
The mac mini was never the choice of the pro, even from the beginning? I think apple made a hidden statement just there.

I disagree. Whilst the Mac mini was initially pushed as a low-cost desktop Mac for consumers in truth it gained way more market share in the pro market than Apple ever imagined or intended. There are Mac mini server farms out there with thousands of them and even in the SOHO market people & companies use them stacked for serial workflows, headless servers, content caching, media servers and more. Indeed, with the death of the Apple Xserve in 2011 the only real option for Apple servers became the Mac mini.

Against that backdrop the move to 10 GbE ethernet, larger RAM, high-end CPUs but no dedicated GPU make a lot of sense. In the consumer space where you would have to buy the keyboard, mouse, display and external GPU the Mac mini would make a very poor value Mac. For that market Apple provides the iMac and, arguably, the MBP.
 
While $4200 for a maxed out Mini is indeed bordering on absurd, most maxed out products are similar. Cars, houses, stereos, watches, you name it.

The two hard fails on the new Mini are graphics (which provide performance from late 2013) and soldered/non-upgradable storage.
 
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