A thread for those who DON'T hate the new Apple TV

Who thinks whining that the new Apple TV is actually going to achieve something.

  • I do, because I'm a special expert who's cooler than you.

    Votes: 23 48.9%
  • I don't.. so I will either love what I bought or I'll just take it back.

    Votes: 28 59.6%

  • Total voters
    47

CaptTCS

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I see so many threads popping up of people who bad mouth the new Apple TV, as if they expected it to give them a handy right out of the box.

I, personally, am pretty stoked about it!

Sure it's twice as expensive as the old puck, but I think it's twice as cool and with twice the potential.

Sure there's some bugs, but what BRAND NEW device doesn't have bugs on the day of launch?

Sure the new Ap store doesn't have many aps. I guess just over a month should have been plenty of time for a million aps to be written.

Sure Siri is currently a little lame, but does anyone remember how she was when she was born on the iPhone 4? She was TERRIBLE.

Sure the new device needs quite a bit of refinement, but I feel that it is more than capable of refinement through updates... Just like every new device.

Personally, I have little complaints (other than the online ordering and shipping). I got tired of waiting in purgatory for mine to finally ship, so I ran out to Best Buy and bought one from them. Got it home last night, the remote worked flawlessly out of the box, took about 1/2 hour to get it all set up (including the downloads & user names and passwords for all the content apps I use). Watched some live broadcast on the CBS ap, played a couple games, explored the new features, stared at the beautiful new screensaver, and genuinely enjoyed my first evening with the new box.

How bout anyone else? I would LOVE to hear from some people who are actually happy about the new Apple TV.
 

ajiuo

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I don't hate the ATV 4 by any means. There is more to love about it then to hate about it. In many ways it's better then the 2&3. But in some ways it's not and warrants some criticism.

I didn't expect Siri to be able to do everything off the bat. But her not being able to do the most basic function, like quickly play iTunes movies that I own is a real downer. As it turns out a LOT of stuff has been delisted & relisted on iTunes over the year... And instead of Siri being able to search what you actually own, she can only search what is actively for sale on iTunes... I've found that a good 15% of my movies that Siri brings up I can't play because there is now a different version active. So I end up having to scroll through my purchase to find it.

And speaking of scrolling. The new remote while mainly amazing create its own problems. You now have to continually swipe to scroll, instead of holding a button. I was expecting it to work more like the iOS remote app... Witch also no longer works. Besides that there is no chapter marks on the scrubber (however scrolling is way easy)... And no way to quickly skip songs when not in the music app.

So yeah, this thing has a few flaws... That I honestly have no clue how Apple missed... But that doesn't mean that I hate the product... I like it a lot. But I also admit that it needs a lot of work.
 
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Frankied22

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I still find using my chromecast and just using my phone as a remote a lot easier and faster than using my new Apple TV but I think in time the Apple TV will add a lot of benefits. It is very much a bare bones start and they have a lot to add with software updates. The question is, how long will it take?
 

nasa25

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My only real gripe is that Siri doesn't recommend Netflix titles. Only suggests movies from iTunes. I thought it was supposed to give you all options with the cheapest (Netflix) listed first.
 

webbuzz

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My only real gripe is that Siri doesn't recommend Netflix titles. Only suggests movies from iTunes. I thought it was supposed to give you all options with the cheapest (Netflix) listed first.
It works for me,
 

CaptTCS

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Yea.. There ARE a lot of bugs to work out and much refinement to go. But, I am confident that the current hardware is more than capable of these refinements, through software/firmware updates.

I'm sure it'll be an ongoing discussion.
 

bruinsrme

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I am very happy with it.
I would have liked 4K but I have other devices that cover that.

This to me is a new device with the bare minimum functionality incorporated in order to have the product in the news and stores before the holidays.

The roll out of apps and games will be swift.
 
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illitrate23

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loving my ATV4 - no regrets about replacing my ATV3 with it
there's a few things that can do with fixing, but the benefits (for me at least, i guess different people have different use cases) far outweigh them. and the potential when more apps and streaming services are available is great.
 

CaptTCS

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I am very happy with it.
I would have liked 4K but I have other devices that cover that.

This to me is a new device with the bare minimum functionality incorporated in order to have the product in the news and stores before the holidays.

The roll out of apps and games will be swift.
As for 4k.. Any good receiver can "Up-scale" that.

As for functionality.. It's like this any time they release anything new. The updates will refine it. If you think about it, it's probably better this way. Instead of them guessing what will work best for us, release something more basic & let our feedback refine it.
 
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nasa25

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It works for me,
Please provide an example of what you'd say to Siri and I'll try it out. I have to actually say 'show me xxxxxx movies on Netflix' for it to pickup Netflix movies. If I just say 'show me comedies' for instance, it'll list only iTunes movies that cost €€€
 

nasa25

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I just want A LOT more games in the App Store so I don't need to be air playing everything (which does work flawlessly by the way but my iPhone heat sink must hate it).
 
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webbuzz

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Please provide an example of what you'd say to Siri and I'll try it out. I have to actually say 'show me xxxxxx movies on Netflix' for it to pickup Netflix movies. If I just say 'show me comedies' for instance, it'll list only iTunes movies that cost €€€
Bryan Cranston - It shows movies and shows, click on Breaking Bad and it will show Netflix and iTunes.

I just tried "comedies" and clicked through a few of the shows. I was given options for Netflix, HBO Now, and iTunes. It is possible that the content you're looking isn't available on Netflix.
 
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Sure it's twice as expensive as the old puck, but I think it's twice as cool and with twice the potential.

Sure there's some bugs, but what BRAND NEW device doesn't have bugs on the day of launch?

Sure the new Ap store doesn't have many aps. I guess just over a month should have been plenty of time for a million aps to be written.

Sure Siri is currently a little lame, but does anyone remember how she was when she was born on the iPhone 4? She was TERRIBLE.

Sure the new device needs quite a bit of refinement, but I feel that it is more than capable of refinement through updates... Just like every new device.
You list this many shortcomings and yet you wonder why some people are "badmouthing" it?

It's good that you are enjoying it but don't be upset when other people are not happy with it.
 

CaptTCS

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You list this many shortcomings and yet you wonder why some people are "badmouthing" it?

It's good that you are enjoying it but don't be upset when other people are not happy with it.
That's why this thread is here. For those of us who see how little, petty, and probably temporary most of the complaints are...

And are actually happy with our $150-$200 purchase.

Really.. I just don't understand why all these people (who sound like they know better than Apple & are surprised their new $200 box won't get them a beer from the fridge) don't just quit their whining and return their purchase to their newest Apple Store.
 

bruinsrme

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As for 4k.. Any good receiver can "Up-scale" that.

As for functionality.. It's like this any time they release anything new. The updates will refine it. If you think about it, it's probably better this way. Instead of them guessing what will work best for us, release something more basic & let our feedback refine it.
All 4K tvs upscale.
My 4K TV set up is completely running on wired lan. Even with the router 15 feet away, it seemed streaming 4K resulted in a bandwidth struggle.
For 1080P i have no problem with streaming
 
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bruinsrme

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You list this many shortcomings and yet you wonder why some people are "badmouthing" it?

It's good that you are enjoying it but don't be upset when other people are not happy with it.
There has been enough discussion on various outlets and here that any average techie that frequents this forum knew what the new Apple atv was and wasn't going at the time of release. Yet some pre-ordered or ran down to their local Apple Store to buy it. Then they were disappointed?

It's like reading Yelp reviews on a restaurant but you go there anyways only to find out the reviews were spot on.

This is a software dependent box. We all know software evolvess faster than hardware.

However WTF is up with the remote app. (That's my really significant gripe)
 
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pittpanthersfan

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Upgraded from the 3. Really loving it. Just need the iOS Remote app to be updated and a native Podcasts app to be released.

HDMI-CEC is great. Haven't touched my television remote since the Apple TV booted up.
 

CaptTCS

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There has been enough discussion on various outlets and here that any average techie that frequents this forum knew what the new Apple atv was and wasn't going at the time of release. Yet some pre-ordered or ran down to their local Apple Store to buy it. Then they were disappointed?

It's like reading Yelp reviews on a restaurant but you go there anyways only to find out the reviews were spot on.

This is a software dependent box. We all know software eve loves faster than hardware.

However WTF is up with the remote app. (That's my really significant gripe)
THANK YOU!
 
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WayneA

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I see so many threads popping up of people who bad mouth the new Apple TV, as if they expected it to give them a handy right out of the box.

I, personally, am pretty stoked about it!

Sure it's twice as expensive as the old puck, but I think it's twice as cool and with twice the potential.

Sure there's some bugs, but what BRAND NEW device doesn't have bugs on the day of launch?

Sure the new Ap store doesn't have many aps. I guess just over a month should have been plenty of time for a million aps to be written.

Sure Siri is currently a little lame, but does anyone remember how she was when she was born on the iPhone 4? She was TERRIBLE.

Sure the new device needs quite a bit of refinement, but I feel that it is more than capable of refinement through updates... Just like every new device.

Personally, I have little complaints (other than the online ordering and shipping). I got tired of waiting in purgatory for mine to finally ship, so I ran out to Best Buy and bought one from them. Got it home last night, the remote worked flawlessly out of the box, took about 1/2 hour to get it all set up (including the downloads & user names and passwords for all the content apps I use). Watched some live broadcast on the CBS ap, played a couple games, explored the new features, stared at the beautiful new screensaver, and genuinely enjoyed my first evening with the new box.

How bout anyone else? I would LOVE to hear from some people who are actually happy about the new Apple TV.
Nice and positive. I have one coming and am patient. I don't have a clue but I remember 1955 and how blessed we are with all this stuff. I will learn from you guys. Thanks Wayne
 
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