A11 Bionic Chip in iPhone 8 and iPhone X on Par With 13-Inch MacBook Pro, Outperforms iPad Pro

[Rob_2811]

Wrong, the architecture is built for the future. Evaluating the potentials only based on the present is pathetic.

I didnt do that did I Nostradamus?

I pointed out that it is entirely pointless to compare the performance of ARM based chips with X86 platforms using synthetic benchmarks. Anybody who even understands the basics realises this.

 

[jdclifford]

The iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and X are equipped with a six-core A11 chip, which Apple says brings some major improvements over the A10 chip in the iPhone 7. The chip features two performance cores and four efficiency cores.

Early Geekbench scores for iPhone X and iPhone 8 devices suggest that not only does the new A11 significantly outperform the A10, it beats the A10X Fusion in the iPad Pro and it is on par with the chips in Apple's latest 13-inch MacBook Pro models.

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Now I understand why Apple raised the price of the iPad Pro by $50 yesterday; because it's S-L-O-W-E-R than an iPhone! Can't innovate may ass right Phil?

 

[mdelvecchio]

All this power of the iPhone X could be used for super features on iOS but nope they instead use it for creating Animoji.

#killme

Yes because this isn't a cool feature or anything (7:58 mark):

 

[FasterQuieter]

It shouldn't, but it bothers me when my phone is faster than my iPad. It just seems wrong. It is also surprising this time round, given the iPad has 3 high performance cores built on a 10-nanometer process. Hopefully the iPad Pro still has superior graphics performance.

 

[Red Oak]

Um, you're acting as if Apple is purposely holding back chip speeds. That's actually Intel. Both Qualcomm and Apple are pushing these as fast as they can but things hold them back...like manufacturing processes etc. Other technologies need to advance along with it.

You think just because I have a degree in 16th Century English Poetry (with minor in Early Indian Pottery), that I do not know what I am talking about? "Liberal Arts" is 50% of the Apple cross-roads thing

As*****

 

[Rob_2811]

People doesn't seem to understand that these scores are completely meaningless when it's across OS and architecture.

Just because it's faster in geekbench, doesn't mean the CPU is actually faster than a MacBook Pro.
The general processing and instruction set that it supported is far from what we have in Macbook, and nowhere near it.

It runs fine in a mobile device, but when it scale up to do general tasking, it's gonna stall and runs like crap.
There are many reasons why Microsoft essentially abandon the Windows RT for ARM chipset.

These news site needs to stop posting **** like this and compare across completely different thing. It's misleading.

Correct. Its absolute nonsense.

 

[Shoju]

Start the iPhone 9 rumours already!

But they did..: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/05/apple-largan-above-12-megapixel-cameras/

 

[thomasthegps]

Ios is becoming a huge OS, it weighs around 2.5GB. If the a11 can run that it probably can run OS X fine.

 

[albebaubles]

Why not? Might aswell kill the platform for pro users completely...

short sighted view. don't count them out.,

 

[nviz22]

So it really smoked all android devices out there, poor Samsung

As a 7+ and SE user, idc what phone is faster between Android and iPhone. What phone meets my needs and allows me to get my work done is all that matters.

 

[iBluetooth]

So they actually did remove 32-bit support from the A11?

When Apple drops legacy stuff, they drop it hard.

Well it has been coming for at least 4 years!

 

[albebaubles]

Finally. It is about time the A chips caught up. You'd think with all that R&D money this would have happened 5 years ago. But no, everything this company and Tim Cook does is drawn out like filling a swimming pool with water from a garden hose

You'd think by now it would match Intel i7. Especially for a thousand dollars for a freaking damn phone

Okay. Done ranting - for now. Time for me to go enjoy some avocado toast and lament my student loan situation

hmm, thats exactly how I filled my pool. How do you do it?

 

[Bollockser]

So the new iPhones blow away the "current" 1000+ day old Mac Minis.
Total dereliction of duty.

 

[MrX8503]

The level of complaining here is unbearable. If the A11 cured cancer, people would complain why it doesn't cure AIDS.

The chip design team at Apple is nothing short of extraordinary. Snapdragon 835 is barely competitive with the A9, which is a 2 year old chip. The iPhone SE is faster than all Android flagships, think about that.

The A11 totally crushes anything from Qualcomm, it's not even close.

 

[bkends35]

Why not? Might aswell kill the platform for pro users completely...

I'm not in favor, just saying what will happen.

 

[ghsDUDE]

So how exactly does it compare with the 7/7 Plus?

 

[jamesrick80]

There's something very wrong with those benchmark figures. They are definately not comparable across ARM and x64. If they are, they are so limited and singlestreamed that it says nothing at all about the processors real capabilities when running average code on a single core.
There is no way in h*** it comes anywhere near the intel skylake 3.5Ghz in singlecore performance. These numbers suggest it's only about 10% slower in single core performance - completely unrealistic!

Hmm I have been saying this for the longest. Try to even use this on a desktop OS and see what happens....it will be a complete mess.

 

[Crazy Badger]

I think the only thing this means is that Apple computers are in a really sad state. The iPhone X probably smokes a 486 PC from the 90s too. That does not make it a great comparison.

I'd bet that an iPhone 4 smokes a 486 PC from the 90s! These reported iPhone X benchmarks put the new MacBook ones to shame, and it can only be a matter of time before they start introducing them into their laptops.

 

[AFEPPL]

They totally missed the fact that its running iOS 11.1 haha

How poorly optimised is iOS to need something like this?
I bet samsung are laughing their asses off, they don't need anything like this power from their CPUs to give the same experience. I guess this is another reason the battery life sucks and i need a battery case to get through the day.

Bloat and pointless features..

 

[richman555]

It shouldn't, but it bothers me when my phone is faster than my iPad. It just seems wrong. It is also surprising this time round, given the iPad has 3 high performance cores built on a 10-nanometer process. Hopefully the iPad Pro still has superior graphics performance.

The iphone was released before the ipad. So this is perfectly normal. The phones get all the newest chips.

 

[Delgibbons]

Went for a run today past the company that made it all possible

 

[macduke]

This is why I said when the iPad Pro launched this summer that I was disappointed they used an A10X vs. an A11X. Not much of a "Pro" device when it gets shown up by a phone a few months later. At the very least the iPad Pro should be the fastest iOS device for a year. This year it's especially weird, but I get the sense that they wanted to update the iPad Pro earlier but something was holding it up.

 

[richman555]

I'd bet that an iPhone 4 smokes a 486 PC from the 90s! These reported iPhone X benchmarks put the new MacBook ones to shame, and it can only be a matter of time before they start introducing them into their laptops.

If I can run Netscape browser and message people on ICQ and play music on Winamp all on my phone then its a hit!
#Nothing wrong with the 90s

 

[Jamie0003]

I wonder how long it'll be before we start to see A chips showing up in MacBooks. Probably won't happen with the pros but it makes sense for the normal MacBook considering the huge power boost you'd get and native support of iOS apps, etc.

 

[Rob_2811]

short sighted view. don't count them out.,

I'm counting them out. These chips would be pointless in desktop class machines.