This product seems like a developer test bed for the lidar sensor and that's about it.
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A12Z Bionic Chip in iPad Pro Allegedly a Renamed A12X With Extra GPU Core Enabled
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From what I've read, this type of thing is common practice. Car manufacturers do the same type of thing with IC engines.
I assume the A12Z has the same Performance Controller (i.e., CPU scheduler) "Bug Fix" as the A13.
The real question is "is a used iPad Pro 12.9 a better value than a new iPad Pro 12.9 2020?"
The 1st gen IPP 12.9 cellular is like $289 on swappa, with 128GB of storage. That's a smoking deal. I literally have 3 of them (well, one has 32GB) and they've been really great for pretty much everything. Why spend $700 more?
If you want to see if an IPP is good enough for you, there's no reason not to try a used IPP 12.9.
The 1st gen IPP 12.9 cellular is like $289 on swappa, with 128GB of storage. That's a smoking deal. I literally have 3 of them (well, one has 32GB) and they've been really great for pretty much everything. Why spend $700 more?
If you want to see if an IPP is good enough for you, there's no reason not to try a used IPP 12.9.
shady: noun. Of doubtful honesty or legality.
Ok, please explain where Apple was dishonest or did something illegal here.
A bump of 2gb in RAM and a bump in storage from 64gb to 128gb while keeping the prices from the past model sounds nice for a new buyer.
You guys have to keep that in mind, you’re just a tiny fraction of potential buyers. Probably Apple will target you on the next release.
You guys have to keep that in mind, you’re just a tiny fraction of potential buyers. Probably Apple will target you on the next release.
This seems very possible. They may have, alternatively, found a problem in the 8th graphics core or in the unit that dispatches among the various cores. Either of these won’t show in imaging that simply looks at layout if it’s a few to even many gate changes. It seems very fair they named it an A12Z and didn’t increment the major number.
I'm waiting for the A14 in the ipad
going to be a long slow year with delay or no new iPhone and an iPad that is similar in performance to last model.
going to be a long slow year with delay or no new iPhone and an iPad that is similar in performance to last model.
I dont get it, either. After 1,5 years waiting they release a product (pro) thats almost identical to its predecessor, with the same hefty price tag, on the other hand, rumors say there will be another release in fall, that makes no sense, they should have skipped this. I dont care whether the A12X/Z has enough power for most used cases, for a price tag over 1000$ and a product called "pro", I ecpect the fastest possible chipset, regardless of wheter i need it or not. They changed nothing, except the camera on the back, which is extremely important in a tablet, not. Oh okay, they added another 2gb of ram, wow.
I just upgraded from the 2nd gen 12.9 to this new 2020 11 pro, I usually purchase every other generation. The 2018 was tempting, but my 2017 is still a very solid device ... & they stay in the household. The new one is a much better size for me feels so small and easy to pack around. It has a lot of great new features for me. No one has mentioned WiFi 6 on this one?
I'm sure a lot of suckers who bought the 2018 iPad Pro upgraded to this, too. But with a name like A12Z, you could pretty much sum it up that this was an incremental release. It is likely as Jason Snell said and what I believed all along, Apple will require developers to have in order to test macOS beta on A Series this summer. Hence the mouse support and the new $350 smart keyboard.
But the real iPad Pro is likely to be a bigger one with a larger 15 inch screen and a A13X processor this fall. Apple is not gonna give the iPad Pro A14X, they are likely saving that for the A Series MacBook launching in March 2021. The A14 is likely for the iPhone only.
But the real iPad Pro is likely to be a bigger one with a larger 15 inch screen and a A13X processor this fall. Apple is not gonna give the iPad Pro A14X, they are likely saving that for the A Series MacBook launching in March 2021. The A14 is likely for the iPhone only.
The LiDAR scanner is the main feature of the update. If you have a 3rd gen and want the new sensor, you buy the 4th gen. If you don’t care about it, don’t. And its a better upgrade for 1st and 2nd gen owners than was the 3rd gen.
They also cut prices on upgrades, went from 4GB to 6GB of RAM and doubled the base storage. It’s a better model for the same or lower price.
Obviously, that’s worth complaining about to some 🤣
Wow.
PS.
a) it’s not 2+ years, it’s a year and 4+ months 🙄
b) no hardware upgrade?
- A12Z: GPU upgrade
- 64—>128GB Storage
- 4GB—>6GB RAM (128/256/512GB)
- single—>dual camera,
- LiDAR scanner
- Five “studio quality” microphones
- “Enhanced thermal architecture”
- WiFi 6
- U1 chip—ultra wideband
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I’m glad to see other people saying this too, the iPad hardware is more than enough and was more than enough probably since the first iPad Pro released. The software needs to catch up (though with proper mouse support it’s finally getting there).
Funny how the bends are always “from normal use.” Nobody’s ever bent one by mistreating it.
The critic‘s that are harsh on here on this site, won’t be nearly as critical as the average consumer would be that’s looking to upgrade to 2020 Pro. This is probably more targeted to iPad owners _under_ the 2018 model, not so much necessarily for the 2018 iPad Pro owner and above.
there’s a lot of potential here for this new iPad, but more than anything, I think we can see where Apple is moving with LiDAR/AR capabilities, But we’re getting there.
there’s a lot of potential here for this new iPad, but more than anything, I think we can see where Apple is moving with LiDAR/AR capabilities, But we’re getting there.
Perhaps Apple have shifted a sizable portion of their chip design team to prepare the ARM-based Mac we keep hearing is under development.
No, they likely were not crippled on purpose. Because of the yield curve, a large percentage of processors will have 1 out of 8 units that have a fault. Those are sold as having 7 units.
It’s incredibly common to have extra units and extra circuitry. After fabrication, quick automated tests determine which units work, and blow on-chip fuses to disable the non-functioning units.
It’s very very very difficult to make a die with billions of transistors and have every transistor work properly.
Every time people repeat that the 3rd gen iPP is 2 years old, I find it hard to believe. I bought this thing as soon as it was available and it still feels brand new. If it broke down on me today, I’d readily buy another 2018 for the same price. It would still be a modern, uncompromised tablet. The fact that I could get the features of the 2020 is just gravy— I don’t even think I could notice a faster CPU— with the apps I run anyway.
I am excited about the new keyboard, though I’ll need to see it first, and very pleased that I don’t need to upgrade to use it.
Some people fetishize ”new”. I don’t. All I care about is whether it does what I need.