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coolfactor

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The 14 Pro still has the same 10 hz screen as the 13 Pro one! It’s even stated on the Apple website’s 14 Pro page. All the tech bloggers keep running with this nonsense 1 hz rumor that has never been confirmed and it’s baffling that people cannot read the official Apple release where this info has been debunked since yesterday.

In the keynote, Joz mentioned 1Hz.

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kirk.vino

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Where did you get the information on what SKU the screen is? There is no tear down yet and if you have inside info into how it's the exact same display, man, I'd love to know it. Or is this just an assumption? Which means you're accusing Apple of outright lying that there's a new part when there isn't? Apple's tech specs published say "up to 120Hz" but don't seem to define a lower limit (10Hz or 1Hz), but the spec sheet given to journalists (now off embargo) *does* say 1Hz...

Given the physical difference in the screen real estate and the differences in addressable pixels driving the new pill/Dynamic Island function, I am inclined to believe that indeed this is *not* the same part, but if you have evidence of something we are all missing, I am sure you'd be lauded as a hero for sharing it!
Have you read my post? It’s clearly stated on the official 14 Pro page at Apple: the screen has the same range, 10 - 120 hz. Look under their “Learn More” for the screen characteristics.
 
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coolfactor

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The 14 Pro still has the same 10 hz screen as the 13 Pro one! It’s even stated on the Apple website’s 14 Pro page. All the tech bloggers keep running with this nonsense 1 hz rumor that has never been confirmed and it’s baffling that people cannot read the official Apple release where this info has been debunked since yesterday.

Regarding the press release... it also mentions 1Hz. Did you get your panties in a bunch over nothing? 🤣

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GuruZac

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You should keep in mind that the a15 is also in other devices where the thermals/clockspeeds/GPUs are very different. testing environments can also change the scores quite a bit so the outlier high/low scores tend to be thrown out in these comparisons. For example, if you run the benchmarks while submerging the iPhone in ice you would probably see a sizable increase over typical room temperature.
I ran my 13 Pro through GB5 just to see and got the following results:
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ikir

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Still impressive considering a15 is already incredibly fast. 17% in multicore is quite considerable
 

EugW

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Given the past few generations‘ increases has mostly been in the 10-20% range, how is it not an outlier? The last time we saw a 40-50% increase was back in a9 to a10.
What I was saying is the A15 score posted in this thread is on the low side for A15 (even in an iPhone), which magnifies the difference with this A16 score. IOW, it's probably not really a 17% increase. It's likely less than that.
 
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pinkkie

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What's the speed even for? Current hardware is so powerful it means nothing anymore. Only thing stopping your weather apps from running smoothly is crappy unoptimized software full of bugs written by incompetent people.
 

0924487

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If it is true that the performance is around 20% faster, it was an interesting choice for Apple not to tell us. Perhaps they didn't want to make the A15 appear inferior to buyers.

My guess is this is the turbo performance that uses exponentially more power, hence not sustainable.
 

Sammy in SoCal

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Ahhhh they’re showing an example of the gold color in the macrumors article. It looks good and now I feel emboldened because during the ordering process I made a last moment decision to ditch the deep purple and go for the gold!
 

Tyler O'Bannon

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If it is true that the performance is around 20% faster, it was an interesting choice for Apple not to tell us. Perhaps they didn't want to make the A15 appear inferior to buyers.
That’s probably a big reason why. Now that the A15 is going into the lower end model, they don’t want to obliterate last years chip anymore. Their language is going to shift to “the chip in the new pro bring even more power for our most demanding users” and the like.
 

EugW

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That’s probably a big reason why. Now that the A15 is going into the lower end model, they don’t want to obliterate last years chip anymore. Their language is going to shift to “the chip in the new pro bring even more power for our most demanding users” and the like.
A lot of the chip geeks out there think A15 and A16's performance cores are either exactly the same or else close to exactly the same, meaning that most of the performance gain comes from the increase in clock speed (7%).

The main improvements for A16 would be the new process and lower power utilization, possible changes to the efficiency cores, and other stuff like the image processor (to deal with the 48 MP camera, etc.).
 
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JCCL

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What a time we live in, a close to 20% improvement in processing speed is made to sound unimpressive.. There was a time when Intel took 2-3 generations to achieve 20% speed increase!!

There was a time that Apple would have 2X CPU, 3X GP]U speed increases. This is quite negligible (and just tried geekbench 5 4 times, never I got it to score lower than 4720 in multicore).
 

EugW

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There was a time that Apple would have 2X CPU, 3X GP]U speed increases. This is quite negligible (and just tried geekbench 5 4 times, never I got it to score lower than 4720 in multicore).
Yep. The 4659 score mentioned in the original post of this thread is too low, and thus somewhat inflates the percentage speed boost when A16 is compared. A 4800+ score for A15 multi-core is rather common.
 

ackmondual

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17% faster in synthetic tests, but hardly noticeable in real world use. But some will upgrade regardless.
Agreed. If you're a power user or road warrior, then have at it! Otherwise, your typical soccer mom or person who just uses it for texting and Facebook probably wouldn't notice a difference anyways
 

4k78

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All I want to know is how much faster is the 14 PM faster than the XS Max I am replacing. :cool:
 

spcopsmac21

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An early benchmark for the A16 chip in the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max suggested only modest speed improvements, but an additional score uploaded to Geekbench today indicates that we could see a more significant jump in performance compared to the A15 chip.

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The A16 chip in the iPhone 14 Pro that was benchmarked earned a single core score of 1887, a 10.5 percent improvement over the 1707 score earned by the A15 in the iPhone 13 Pro.

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As for multi-core performance, there are notable speed gains. The A16 earned a multi-core score of 5455, up 17.1 percent from the 4659 score earned by the A15 chip.

The result that we saw earlier this week from an iPhone 14 Pro Max suggested that multi-core performance was at around 4664, which would put the A16 barely over the A15 in terms of performance. Given that the A16 is running on an updated 4-nanometer process compared to the 5-nanometer process of the A15, the latest score shared today is more in line with expectations. Multi-core performance could perhaps even be somewhat higher if the iPhone that was benchmarked is still going through its initial setup process and uploading content to iCloud.

Apple's A16 chip is limited to the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max, and we'll need additional benchmarks to get a better average for what we can expect in terms of performance improvements. The iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus are still using the A15 chip from last year, but with the 5-core GPU that was originally limited to the iPhone 13 Pro models.

Article Link: A16 in iPhone 14 Pro is 17% Faster Than A15 in iPhone 13 Pro in New Benchmark
17%……
“ WoW”
Owen Wilson-
 

spcopsmac21

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Kind of of a side note, went from an iPad Air 4th Gen to the 5th Gen. I really thought the M1 would blow me away.

it didn't.

That's why I decided to wait for the iPhone 16 or Beyond. Nothing Apples making has that wow, I need this in my life factor.
Steve Jobs Ghost is tap dancing in Tim Cookes brain right now.
If he were here every two generations we would have had something amazingly different. Now we get whatever the bean counters say we get.
 
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