I suggest a closer look at the meaning of the word "perfect" you'll then realize how your analogy is not valid.
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I suggest a closer look at the meaning of the word "perfect" you'll then realize how your analogy is not valid.
Ok, what am I looking for exactly? I opened 7 tabs in Safari and had 6 apps running. Took photos of things around my house and videos of my dog, went into each app and it was right where I left it. Scrolled immediately too, unlike my S4 which used to stutter a good 2 seconds before I could scroll. Not seeing any issues and people who need dozens of app and tabs open really need a laptop or go buy a phone with more RAM and leave the iPhone 6 for us. Bye
If you are not lying, mind making a video showing this process and showing that all 7 tabs are still open and none of them reloads?
If you can do so, Apple might just contact you for being the owner of the only iPhone in the world that does not run out of memory.
Using the Profiler in the Xcode suite shows that opening up the camera alone to record a video can easily eat up 1/4 of available memory (read: on a 1GB device)... and that's not to mention the portion being grabbed by the graphics processing unit.
None of this even matters. Like at all. People will line up for it no matter how little ram it has just because it's new and bigger. Only those that are somewhat tech savvy would see a reason to not buy this.
This post is an absolute joke. Not surprised coming from the person who said 500ppi for a display is "average". You can't compare specs from an Android phone with that of an iOS device. 2 completely different operating systems that require different things. If specs are everything, please inform me how Apple's dual core 1.3 GHz A7 outclassed the Snapdragon processors available last year that were 2.0 GHz+ and quad-core?
Regarding the safari tab reloading, since you're still arguing about it happening or not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLDT9l6XFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJNS3ucSak4
Cheerios.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLDT9l6XFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJNS3ucSak4
Cheerios.
Now I understand why I never get the reloading issue. I don't use the camera and safari at the same time.
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Woot Woot!!! Nice to have one of my videos being used as evidence. But I suggest using this video instead. Some of the apple fanbois cried foul when I posted that video - "What are you doing going to THAT site, not a true test, etc..." This one uses macrumors and walmart.com and couldn't be simpler example of how pitiful the Air is in safari with 1Gig of RAM...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7pEgZ-SIVI
They were ready to use most likely due to state preservation - when you exit out of apps, developers are generally advised to save application state to disk, so it doesn't affect RAM (except that iOS may flush the used portions). I asked for a list because I suspected not all apps you said to have "open" would qualify as apps that would be allowed to run in the background - if they all were, and you allowed to run in the background, you would most likely run into memory problems which you can ascertain through the diagnostic logs.
And again 2 times *IPAD*. If the problem shows on iPhone it can't be so hard to show a iPhone vid, too?
So odd. So I was curious about our iPad, 32GB, 4th Gen (iOS 7.1.1) - I closed out all apps, opened safari (basically mirrored your same workflow). Went to MR, open this post, opened Walmart in another tab, searched for vacs, opened the reviews of the first one (Shark Navigator), went back to the MR tab, still contained my reply in the text box, opened another tab, came back to MR, same, no refresh.
I say odd because your device seems pretty aggressive with the tab reloads. I’m going to experiment a little more, if I get really motivated, I’ll shoot a video (I can capture it using Reflector).
To be clear: I’m all for more RAM (particularly on the iPad), and I have seen tab reloads, but it’s with more tabs and/or more app swapping.
Goodness, it's more like talking to a hurricane in this case. I don't know where to start with this one. Let's try to deal with this hyperbolic diarrhea of the mouth.So I suppose you won't be buying one then? Since it's that debilitating...
LOL
Google "iPhone users that overreact" and you will find things. Google "iPhone users that need to get a life" and you will find things.
The point? Just because you can Google something and find a result does NOT mean something is "widespread". It also proves how little you actually understand of the "issue" (since we are just making Straw Man arguments, figured I'd throw one in too).
For the last year we've had to sit around and listen to the .01% of users that can't live with Safari tabs reloading, or an occassional crash from "power using" (LOL... again) tell us how "if Apple doesn't fix this, I'm leaving".
Fantastic. LEAVE.
But you won't. Instead, as I already mentioned, it'll just be another year of "problems" tied to an idle threat of "if the 6S doesn't have XYZ, I swear, no really... I SWEAR, I'm leaving this time... Scout's honor".
It makes you all look even more ridiculous. If you are that unsatisfied that you really believe the problem is widespread (it isn't, but if you BELIEVE it is), why not move on to something else?
I have my theories
Issue with Googling - there are tests done by reputable folks that corroborate with this issue. Verifiable means evidence exists.
Issue with leaving. Misquote on your part, try to tone down your rampant generalization (a violation you claim I made as well). I will be purchasing one, as complaints about memory does not exactly equate a non-purchase. Opinions, yay! Others can have them too!
Issue with straw man. See... All of your posts.
This doesn't happen on 32bit devices since they have more available memory than 64bit
That’s a contributor, I’ve just never noticed that level of disparity in Safari in a 1GB/32bit iPad (3rd, 4th gens) vs. the 1GB/64bit (rMini/Air).
Now that you ask, I don't have the slightest! This whole thing is just silly and we should sweep all problems under the rug until we can go sledding indoors. Why, I think that sounds ever the more fun!And this is such a monumental deal why again?
and that's why i will never use safari again. the reload takes away the whole ipad experience.
The vast majority of users don't post on forums from their PHONES. The vast majority of users use their phones for texts, emails, calls, Facebook and Instagram and random things like music, Yelp, check movie times and check sports scores...I know very few people who actually sit there posting on message forums from their phones. The very small percentage of people this effects can either A) buy a laptop or B) buy an Android phone with 2-3GB of RAM and go crazy posting on those forums! Woohoo!
Most people talk about Safari, but for me it is more the fact that I cannot multitask properly. If I switch from one app to the other then the previous app reloaded.
I love my iPad Air but I'm really dissapointed in this field considering the price of this tablet
I love my iPad Air but I'm really dissapointed in this field considering the price of this tablet
Spot on.
The problem is not only about Safari, but is about multitasking.
One should be able to switch between many background apps without having to wait for a complete reload, that's the bottom line.
I cannot accept this behaviour from a top price phone or tablet
And there it is everyone! The statement of the -let's say- thread, that sums up what you do on your device... as random, vapid tasks, similar to how this very poster operates.The vast majority of users don't post on forums from their PHONES. The vast majority of users use their phones for texts, emails, calls, Facebook and Instagram and random things like music, Yelp, check movie times and check sports scores...I know very few people who actually sit there posting on message forums from their phones. The very small percentage of people this effects can either A) buy a laptop or B) buy an Android phone with 2-3GB of RAM and go crazy posting on those forums! Woohoo!
Please do continue over generalizing dear, you are really helping make whatever point it is that you are making, however ineffective and bizarre. In the meantime since there is no going anywhere with you, I'll leave you to keep on preaching those Androids! Woohoo!
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Strange that you don't like his opinion as you are doing exactly the same: thinking your use case is the one that is important...
I admit that some of my previous posts may have degenerated into not so constructive ones, but please don't lump my point and his together. We don't like each other's points, but there is a difference between bringing up a problem which exists, and sticking one's fingers in one's ears and pretending otherwise - because no amount of screaming will preclude facts.
Also, it is that my use cases are also among those listed by him to be important (eg emails and music and random things) which can trigger the problems that not just I, but other people can corroborate with. That, is the original point we have been trying to make, but we circle back to either that it is a non-issue (coincidentally, your stance at several points in this thread), or that we should get an Android.
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