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Has anyone checked the network traffic? Does it work if disabling wifi?

Agreed!

If we are going to play amateur statistician, we should make sure people close all background apps and run geekbench in airplane mode. Users should post their OS version and exact model as well. Even then, tI doubt any meaningful difference will be found. The current suppositions in this thread are just plain unfounded stupidity.
 
2nm difference is huge!
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Agreed!

If we are going to play amateur statistician, we should make sure people close all background apps and run geekbench in airplane mode. Users should post their OS version and exact model as well. Even then, tI doubt any meaningful difference will be found. The current suppositions in this thread are just plain unfounded stupidity.
I'm talking about running the rogue app in airplane mode specifically. I care not for geekbench results. Battery efficiency is the important thing here. Die size will have very little impact on performance.
 
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so comparing chips don't only start and finish on a windows pc...

Looks like Apple fans also compare specs this much too........ (on a iOS device anyway), but soon we'll be right up to spec with talking how fast my mac is like PC users do.

Its starts with the iPhone, comparing chip performance, then it will go to the laptops, then desktops...

And I thought Apple users never cared about this techy stuff........ Where did I do wrong ... I guess it was just a matter of time before Apple users realized something was a-miss.

Maybe this only could be because its the first time we've seen TMSC and Samsung in different models, but i it was about 50/50 anyway with chip design in any mobile device from Apple.
 
No matter how much Apple hates Samsung, they still heavily rely on them to manufacture their products.

Apple does't hate Samsung. Apple is ran by grown up mature individuals that manage the company professionally.

The thing to take away from this revaluation is that Apple's chip demands are too big to be left to one company or plant. Frankly as a stock holder I'm glad that they have diversified the manufacturing base to prevent anyone issue from disrupting manufacturing completely.
 
And I thought Apple users never cared about this techy stuff........ Where did I do wrong ... I guess it was just a matter of time before Apple users realized something was a-miss.

huh? you just don't pay attention is all..
go check out the mac pro forum here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/mac-pro.1/

all they talk about is specs.. funny thing you'll find after hanging out in that forum for a while.. nobody actually uses their computer to accomplish tasks.. they buy computers/components to run benchmarks and argue for months on end about the results... ;)
 
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It seems to me that going from 14 x 14 vs 16 x 16 should result in it being 3/4 as big... seems like a pretty big size difference to me.
14 nm refers to feature size, not die size.
And yet the total surface size was only reduced to 96 mm^2 from 104.5 mm^2... maybe 92%.

Seems to suggest that there's a lot more to the size of these chips than just the size of the process or whatever it is that's being talked about when you say 14nm vs 16nm.

There are a number of factors involved but two different processes will achieve differing densities so a direct comparison isn't possible. That being said the two processes are very similar performance wise.
 
What could theoretically be stolen by an app like this? I had a brain-fart and ran this without thinking, and now I'm paranoid as hell.
 
Apple does't hate Samsung. Apple is ran by grown up mature individuals that manage the company professionally.

The thing to take away from this revaluation is that Apple's chip demands are too big to be left to one company or plant. Frankly as a stock holder I'm glad that they have diversified the manufacturing base to prevent anyone issue from disrupting manufacturing completely.

Absolutely true. And this gives us something to laugh about as we watch irrationality take over produce simply ludicrous and hilarious comments about this non issue.
 
Yes, performance wise this has little impact on performance. But on battery life it does a lot, because a chip with a larger architecture generates more heat.

Nothing is perfect but nothing I've heard about the two processes indicates a huge difference in thermals. As long as the phone can deliver advertised run times there is little to complain about. There is likely to be larger differences in battery behavior than is suggested by this report on the processors.
 
Not necessarily. There are many factors that determine power usage / heat generation. The layout could be different. The resistance of the different layers could be different. Larger may tend towards more power usage, but it isn't an absolute by any means.

There are so man factors here that the discussion really needs to be handled in a professionals forum. That being said the two processes are so close as to be the same. From Apples stand point if they get the same power profiles and the same timing then the chips are essentially the same. Timing constraints are the key, if all units run the same then each chip will perform identically.
 
I got 2531/4394 TSMC. So frickin pissed. Just ripped all my screen protectors off and packaged my phone back up. Its getting sent back first thing in the morning..

Jeez, dude.. words fail

How many people are going to install this rogue app to find out which processor vendor their phone has? And for what?..

The numbers will be meaningless to 99.9999% of the people that do this. The people that understand the numbers aren't going to be doing this.

Do you REALLY think Apple is going to install a substandard chip in their flagship product?..

Anyone?

Get a grip people!
 
C H I P G A T E

There, I've said it. There had to be something for the youtubers to make click money from!

C H I P G A T E, you'll be seeing that word a lot soon lol.
 
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TSMC chip in my 6s Plus 128 GB. Geek bench score - 2510/4348 (updated with no other apps open and in airplane mode)

i have no idea if this is good or bad.
 
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There are so man factors here that the discussion really needs to be handled in a professionals forum.

at some point, you just have to trust this has already happened with the professionals that really matter (the ones who designed the phones).. and it passes their tests etc.
 
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