Jobs was a much bigger a hole than any of these movies portrays. They ought to be happy they are painting him in the same light the hipsters with their Apple Stickers on their VW Clean Diesel TDI's do rather than the way he actually was. The story of him denying the paternity of his daughter for as long as he did along with not being a part of her life for a long time is much closer to reality than the image some people like to keep.
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Aaron Sorkin Blasts Tim Cook for Calling Steve Jobs Films 'Opportunistic'
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Jobs was a much bigger a hole than any of these movies portrays. They ought to be happy they are painting him in the same light the hipsters with their Apple Stickers on their VW Clean Diesel TDI's do rather than the way he actually was. The story of him denying the paternity of his daughter for as long as he did along with not being a part of her life for a long time is much closer to reality than the image some people like to keep.
Granted that Cook didn't see the movie, the only reason he could call the movie opportunistic is not about its qualities, but about making its money. That's why Sorkin's comment is spot on. Don't blame someone else about making money while you're making a ton of money, possibly doing very similar things.
"Third, if you've got a factory full of children in China assembling phones for 17 cents an hour you've got a lot of nerve calling someone else opportunistic."
Shots fired! Shots fired!
Shots fired! Shots fired!
Tim Cook has really big balls to say that especially when he sell that 16 GB iPhone. Pot meet kettle.
16GB iPhone??? Enough said.
Just like most biographies for the big screen, more than likely sensationalized for ratings.
I think Tim was talking about the Man in the machine movie.
Shots fired.
Except the facts about 17 cents and children ARE TOTAL FALSE AND ARE LIES.
Hmmm. Just like Sorkins movies.
Actually yes he is wrong.
They don't get paid 17 cents an hour and no one under 21 can work in the factories.
Of course this plays into Sorkin's hand. By responding flamboyantly like this, he is sure to attract a lot of media attention for the movie. There is no such thing as bad publicity.
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Maybe true, but Apple, as a big, powerful corporation, really turns the screws to suppliers. What, Foxconn takes a ton of risk and only gets $1 per phone?
I'm not picking on Apple. All corporations do this.
I don't know if we know if Apple does more, but that's besides the point. Also, anyone can bring money home, but still be exploited. Many or most of us are in that position.
You guys seen the "other one": The Man in the Machine?
That one is particularly showing Steve's "dark sides".
The fact is that there are so many movies / documentaries made so shortly after his death, it's pretty unbelievable.
And that fact is simply a statement to his achievements in life, love him or hate him.
That one is particularly showing Steve's "dark sides".
The fact is that there are so many movies / documentaries made so shortly after his death, it's pretty unbelievable.
And that fact is simply a statement to his achievements in life, love him or hate him.
That's so untrue. You don't understand the meaning of "opportunistic".
Here's one definition:
"exploiting chances offered by immediate circumstances without reference to a general plan or moral principle"
Simply making money isn't being opportunistic. If it were, every business and every service in the entire world be opportunistic according to you.
I think it's more that Sorkin is annoyed the 'pot is calling the kettle black'. If Sorkin is "opportunistic" for making a movie, what does that make Cook, head of one of the most profitable companies ever?
Yes, lots of American workers are moving to China because they can make so much money at the Apple factories there... :eyeroll:
I think Tim's comment came across as a blind attack to lump all movies together there to make money.
I do feel that Sorkin did this movie out of passion for the subject. I can't wait to see it.
Yes, we are all opportunistic, but we don't do everything mostly for money. I think other movies may have done it for money.
I work for money, but also have a passion for my work. Rather than having a business to make money only to have a passion for extracting dollars from peoples' pockets.
Exactly what.
Exactly that Sorkin is telling lies?
No one gets paid 17 cents an hour or is under 21 years old in Apple product factories
Opportunistic would be making this movie just 4 years after the guy passed away.
But this movie's coming out 4 years AND 18 DAYS afterward. I think enough time has passed.
(If reviews are good—from film sites, not tech sites—I'm interested. I'm not impressed with the degree of knowledge he shows of Apple, though, if he actually thinks what he said about child labor is true. Luckily, entertainment doesn't have to be fact alone.)
Or with anyone who will make up dire false accusations, which will be assumed true by many!
But this movie's coming out 4 years AND 18 DAYS afterward. I think enough time has passed.
(If reviews are good—from film sites, not tech sites—I'm interested. I'm not impressed with the degree of knowledge he shows of Apple, though, if he actually thinks what he said about child labor is true. Luckily, entertainment doesn't have to be fact alone.)
Or with anyone who will make up dire false accusations, which will be assumed true by many!