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Accidental Secondary Clicking on MacBook Pro

NickMcCandless

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Is it just me or are you guys experiencing a lot of accidental secondary clicking due to the much larger touchpad? I constantly have to watch myself and make sure my wrist is not resting on the touchpad when I click or I get the result of a secondary click. How about you guys? Anyone know any settings or changes I can make so I don't have to worry about this? I have already set the Secondary click to the bottom right corner.
 

ixxx69

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I've been living with this issue on my MacBook which was the first to receive the extra large trackpad... it's a bit of a pain for me. I did turn off "Tap to click" in the trackpad settings - that seemed to help a bit.

I wonder if the "Click" style makes a difference? And of course if you're accidentally activating any gestures, you can turn some of those off.

I'd be curious to know if there are any third-party utilities out there that would help with this.
 
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NickMcCandless

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I've been living with this issue on my MacBook which was the first to receive the extra large trackpad... it's a bit of a pain for me. I did turn off "Tap to click" in the trackpad settings - that seemed to help a bit.

I wonder if the "Click" style makes a difference? And of course if you're accidentally activating any gestures, you can turn some of those off.

I'd be curious to know if there are any third-party utilities out there that would help with this.
Tap to Click is already off for me, getting very annoying that it keeps secondary clicking for me because of this, there must be a solution
 
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ixxx69

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Tap to Click is already off for me, getting very annoying that it keeps secondary clicking for me because of this, there must be a solution
I think you can get used to it, and over time, you learn to adjust a bit how you position your hands. Whether that helps enough, or whether that's ultimately "good" or "bad" is up to you.
 
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Ma2k5

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I think you can get used to it, and over time, you learn to adjust a bit how you position your hands. Whether that helps enough, or whether that's ultimately "good" or "bad" is up to you.

The thing about that is, it reminds me of the whole "You are holding it wrong" bs that Apple tried pull on us during antennagate. Why when, no one complained about the keyboard/trackpad in previous generations, infact said they were the best, would they suddenly tell us "No, we want you to like this, so we can make the laptop 2mm thinner". Fine, so this new keyboard helped it get thinner, but why the gigantic track-pad, why do it Apple. Who asked for it? Apple already had the largest track-pad in the market, why make it twice the size when no one asked for it!!! /rant

I always use tap to click so, this is quite a deal breaker if it is something very prevalent and not easily fixed software-side.
 
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ascender

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I've not had this problem with my MBA or the new MBP and I have touch to click enabled as well.

So I guess I'm inadvertently doing something right/wrong.
 
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jclardy

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Hmm, haven't had any issues here, and I know I am resting my palm on the trackpad as when I click I end up feeling it in my other hand. Do you have tap to click enabled?

I have found myself accidentally tapping touchbar items though.
 
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NickMcCandless

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Anyone find or aware of solution for this? It's really slowing me down and hurting my experience
 
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Mobster1983

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I haven't noticed this on my 15".

As I was writing this I am testing it, intentionally touching the trackpad with my wrist, and moving my palms around on the touchpad while typing. Having zero issues.

I do have tap to click and all of the different options enabled on the touchpad.
 
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NickMcCandless

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I haven't noticed this on my 15".

As I was writing this I am testing it, intentionally touching the trackpad with my wrist, and moving my palms around on the touchpad while typing. Having zero issues.

I do have tap to click and all of the different options enabled on the touchpad.
I am having to constantly make sure my wrist isn't touching while I click or it happens. Here are my current settings for trackpad.

Look up & data detectors - Tap with three fingers
Secondary click - Click in bottom right corner
Tap to click - Unchecked
Click - Firm
Tracking speed - 4th Notch
Force Click and Haptic Feedback - Checked
 
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unagimiyagi

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Too many people are complaining that the palm rejection isn't good enough to keep up with the larger trackpad area for this to be a non-issue. At least half of the reviews I have read mention this in passing. It's enough for me to label this trackpad as a downgrade. The old trackpad was plenty big and perfect and no one asked for a bigger trackpad. No palm rejection issues at all. Like 0 times in five years did it mess up for me.

You are not typing wrong. Apple messed up.

I am unsure if this is possible in software but make the say top 1/3 of the trackpad a total dead-zone. This way the trackpad's effective size will shrink back to the old version's size. And no palm rejection issues. You know what I want more than a larger trackpad? A reliable one. It's a large reason why I continue to use a mac as silly as that sounds. No one on the windows side has crafted a quality trackpad yet that rivals the old MacBook Pro. But the new one? Just maybe since it appears to be a regression.
 
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therealseebs

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Yeah, I have this problem a lot. I also have a lot of problems with it just plain not registering clicks at all sometimes. Like, hands completely off the machine, touch the corner of the track pad, push down until mechanical click, nothing happens.

I set click pressure to "light" and it seems more responsive that way. Still lots of trouble with it thinking it was a secondary click.

This strikes me as really busted, and a good argument for physically separate buttons. Also, I never had this problem on reasonably-sized trackpads.
 
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NickMcCandless

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Yeah, I have this problem a lot. I also have a lot of problems with it just plain not registering clicks at all sometimes. Like, hands completely off the machine, touch the corner of the track pad, push down until mechanical click, nothing happens.

I set click pressure to "light" and it seems more responsive that way. Still lots of trouble with it thinking it was a secondary click.

This strikes me as really busted, and a good argument for physically separate buttons. Also, I never had this problem on reasonably-sized trackpads.
Ver y frustrating and doesn't seem like the Apple we all know and love. It's becoming very annoying as half the time I click it shows the secondary click and I have to be extra careful to make sure my palm is off the keyboard. Amazes me that Apple didn't recognize this problem and have it taken care of for launch.
 
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unagimiyagi

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Ver y frustrating and doesn't seem like the Apple we all know and love. It's becoming very annoying as half the time I click it shows the secondary click and I have to be extra careful to make sure my palm is off the keyboard. Amazes me that Apple didn't recognize this problem and have it taken care of for launch.

Sounds to me like this is another usability decline to add to the list in the new MacBook Pro.

Now they have two problems: it's a less usable machine and it's got a much higher price. Don't underestimate the long term frustration of a worse trackpad even if it's 2% less annoying. It will add up fast.

Right now you have until January to return. If you are still getting cursor jumps at that time, return the machine
 
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nikster0029

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I agree with the others that turning off tap-to-click helped a lot. Should not have to be that way
 
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yillbs

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Is it just me or are you guys experiencing a lot of accidental secondary clicking due to the much larger touchpad? I constantly have to watch myself and make sure my wrist is not resting on the touchpad when I click or I get the result of a secondary click. How about you guys? Anyone know any settings or changes I can make so I don't have to worry about this? I have already set the Secondary click to the bottom right corner.

I'm going to have to call BS on this. The thumb pad can't actually click with a palm on it. So you're likely just " asking " a question openly because you haven't really experienced it, and maybe you like the discussion.

If you HAVE experienced your Paim right clicking on the track pad, you need to take it to apple as soon as possible, because that's not a software issue , it just doesn't do it.
 
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NickMcCandless

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I'm going to have to call BS on this. The thumb pad can't actually click with a palm on it. So you're likely just " asking " a question openly because you haven't really experienced it, and maybe you like the discussion.

If you HAVE experienced your Paim right clicking on the track pad, you need to take it to apple as soon as possible, because that's not a software issue , it just doesn't do it.
It certainly is happening for me and others have reported the same. This is with tap to click already off
 
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happyslayer

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I found that on the 12" MacBook, I had to disable Tap to Click or I would inadvertently move my cursor around a lot in my writing apps (Word and Scrivener mostly.) I just left it disabled on the new Pro, especially since the track pad is even bigger.
 
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unagimiyagi

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It certainly is happening for me and others have reported the same. This is with tap to click already off

How quickly did you notice the poor trackpad? Is this jump cursor/bad palm rejection noticeable if I tried the new mbp in store, or is it only evidence after an extended audition? I don't want to have to buy the laptop and then return it if possible.
 
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therealseebs

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I'm going to have to call BS on this. The thumb pad can't actually click with a palm on it. So you're likely just " asking " a question openly because you haven't really experienced it, and maybe you like the discussion.

If you HAVE experienced your Paim right clicking on the track pad, you need to take it to apple as soon as possible, because that's not a software issue , it just doesn't do it.

I think you may be misunderstanding the described behavior.

If you actually click, not tap, on the lower-left corner, there's a very distinct click sound when you activate the sensor. Not the trackpad surface, the actual clicky thing under it. Turn off tap-to-click, and try that.

Now, turn on right click by "click lower-right of trackpad". You should be able to verify that left and right mechanical clicks work.

Once that's set up, rest a corner of your palm very lightly on the lower right, and click using the actual mechanical switch in the lower-left. That tends to register as a "right click" for me.
 
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GalaDaliGirl

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I am having to constantly make sure my wrist isn't touching while I click or it happens. Here are my current settings for trackpad.

Look up & data detectors - Tap with three fingers
Secondary click - Click in bottom right corner
Tap to click - Unchecked
Click - Firm
Tracking speed - 4th Notch
Force Click and Haptic Feedback - Checked

And people say windows is obtuse. Lol.
 
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GalaDaliGirl

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You guys need to type without resting hands on the trackpad.

AirType (tm) hands hovering without touching.
 
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therealseebs

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It's not the typing that's causing trouble, it's the using the trackpad. And I was fine back when the trackpad was a reasonable size; it's the huge trackpad screwing me up.

It turns out, it's not just that I don't really need a huge trackpad; it actually made the system worse.
 
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unagimiyagi

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It turns out, it's not just that I don't really need a huge trackpad; it actually made the system worse.

This thread in a nutshell. A needless enhancement that nobody asked for that turns out not to be an enhancement at all. Sad to say but the trackpad still in this state may be the best that's out there except for the old models.
 
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