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thekayman

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Since updating to OS2 I noticed the Exercise (middle) ring filling up much faster than before. It seems that now any kind of walking you do counts as exercise.
 

azhava

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Aug 29, 2010
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Arizona, USA
I did a lot of walking today and mine only shows a total of 5 minutes of exercise. If it counted all walking, that ring should have had over an hour of exercise showing. It seems to be working exactly as it did under 1.0.1.
 

thekayman

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Oct 23, 2014
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Before OS2 I hardly ever completed the Exercise ring on regular days. Now it's way ahead of the Calories ring.

Could this be a bug or a wrong setting?
 

Nell

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Jun 25, 2012
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London
My exercise ring filled really quickly yesterday too. I do always close it but it sometimes takes effort rather than just getting through the day. At the end of yesterday I had 98 minutes of exercise which is way more than usual.

I think the active calorie figure was maybe a little higher than I'd expect but not much more. I need to check that by using the workout app I think.
 

Nell

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Jun 25, 2012
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London
Just checked and I have two minutes of exercise showing this morning. That would be walking along the landing to the bathroom and back to my bedroom. I certainly don't live in a big enough house for that to count as exercise!
 

aberrero

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Jan 12, 2010
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For the same calorie burn, I'm recording about double the number of exercise minutes. Today I hit 159 minutes exercise whereas I would normally have around 80 minutes with this level of walking.
 

Nell

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Jun 25, 2012
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London
Having just checked though, my 98 minutes yesterday was still below the 120 active minutes my Fitbit registered and this morning's 2 minutes is still that even though I've now been up and down stairs (and Fitbit is showing one active minute). It'll be interesting to see how today's figures compare.
 

oftheheavens

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Jul 9, 2008
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it seems that they now update as you exercise instead of when you raise your wrist updating all at once. don't know why it would make it seem easier to complete though.
 

maflynn

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May 3, 2009
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I hadn't noticed but then I usually fill in the rings every day anyways. I was wondering if they'd be tweaking the algorithm.
 

SafariChecker

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May 29, 2015
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I hadn't noticed but then I usually fill in the rings every day anyways. I was wondering if they'd be tweaking the algorithm.
This all goes back to version 1.0 versus 1.01. Many people (including myself), were upset that the heart rate readings were not taking place as frequently in the 1.01 update because if you were moving (walking briskly) the readings would not happen and thus not register the rise in your rate unless you manually used the exercise app (which I did not like bothering to do). I'm happier now that the OS2 seems to have reverted back to the regular readings. I don't have to use the workout app just to walk my dog and register brisk walks.
 
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bcaslis

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Mar 11, 2008
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I find the exercise ring in OS2 filling up faster also than in 1.0.1. I never used 1.0 so I don't have any comparison.
 

Mascots

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Sep 5, 2009
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I'm with you: They definitely tweaked the algorithm and it is much more sensitive than before.

It makes me happy, because I'd often have to "jump start" my movement for the exercise ring (like walking down a flight of stairs or something overly intense before resuming slightly above active activity) in order to get it to move at all in the OS 1.x; now it seems to pick up more spastic movements. yay!
 

mchlwise

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Jul 8, 2015
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Utah
It's faster, but only a little bit.

I average over 9,000 steps a day, but usually only get 2-3 minutes of "exercise". Yesterday I got 5.

It's not counting steps, it's counting the frequency of steps. If you walk very quickly, it will count it as exercise. Regular pace it won't.

You don't have to walk QUITE as fast with OS2 to get some exercise credit.
 

Hicks.

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Sep 27, 2006
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UK
I'm finding that the green exercise ring fills up a lot easier - it's too easy to gain this now. Weirdly the move ring seems harder to achieve and seems to fill up less throughout the day and when you are actually exercising.
 

stridemat

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Apr 2, 2008
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I prefer it the old way. Seemingly activated only when doing an actual exercise activity and not just slowly walking into town and back.

I have done 62 mins of activity today and all I have done is walking. Doesn't make it rewarding :(
 

BlueMoon63

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Mar 30, 2015
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Before OS2 I hardly ever completed the Exercise ring on regular days. Now it's way ahead of the Calories ring.

Could this be a bug or a wrong setting?
And there are others on os2 saying just the opposite. They can fill the calories but not even get a single minute of exercise.

For the record, i have stated that it seems slightly easier and that is why I calibrated mine to be sure. I walk fast and I know it isn't heart rate since that doesn't register unless doing a workout or arm not moving.

I seem to get easy calorie updates walking to the mailbox which is about 250 feet from my garage. I get about 5 calories and 1 minute of exercise for a 1 minute walk. Was getting slightly higher until I calibrated again with 2.0.
 

ZoeLou

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Apr 6, 2015
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And there are others on os2 saying just the opposite. They can fill the calories but not even get a single minute of exercise.

For the record, i have stated that it seems slightly easier and that is why I calibrated mine to be sure. I walk fast and I know it isn't heart rate since that doesn't register unless doing a workout or arm not moving.

I seem to get easy calorie updates walking to the mailbox which is about 250 feet from my garage. I get about 5 calories and 1 minute of exercise for a 1 minute walk. Was getting slightly higher until I calibrated again with 2.0.

What do you mean by calibrate it? I am also very easily filling the exercise ring now when before it was the hardest one to fill
 

aberrero

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Jan 12, 2010
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I walked to Burger King this morning to get breakfast and on my way back my watch congratulated me on doing 30 minutes of exercise.

It has become completely useless.
 

IW1206MT

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Jul 12, 2015
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My exercise ring is filling up faster and my move ring is filling up slower.

I deleted calibration data when I upgraded to os2, so it will be interesting to see how this adjusts over the next few days.
 

greytmom

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Jun 23, 2010
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I'm finding that the green exercise ring fills up a lot easier - it's too easy to gain this now. Weirdly the move ring seems harder to achieve and seems to fill up less throughout the day and when you are actually exercising.

My experience exactly. Got all excited about the exercise ring, until I saw where the move ring was.
 
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Thepixelsedge

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Apr 24, 2015
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Toronto, Canada
Apple appears to have gone back to the original way in which this was measured in OS 1.0... thats not a typo, before 1.0.1 in the first 2 weeks of launch, the apple watch would take your heart rate every 10 min regardless of your activity level.

Your heart rate is sometimes elevated when you're walking along and since you updated to 2.0 and apple went back to their original way you now get more exercise credit as a result of the more frequent heart rate readings. In 1.0.1 your heart rate was checked every 10 min but the health app only saved them when you had been at rest for 10 min. If you were active in those 10 min it would disregard the recording. In 1.0 (and it appears OS2), it records it every 10 min or so and saves the result regardless of activity... therefore more exercise credit without having to start the exercise app.
 

WilliamG

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Mar 29, 2008
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Apple appears to have gone back to the original way in which this was measured in OS 1.0... thats not a typo, before 1.0.1 in the first 2 weeks of launch, the apple watch would take your heart rate every 10 min regardless of your activity level.

Your heart rate is sometimes elevated when you're walking along and since you updated to 2.0 and apple went back to their original way you now get more exercise credit as a result of the more frequent heart rate readings. In 1.0.1 your heart rate was checked every 10 min but the health app only saved them when you had been at rest for 10 min. If you were active in those 10 min it would disregard the recording. In 1.0 (and it appears OS2), it records it every 10 min or so and saves the result regardless of activity... therefore more exercise credit without having to start the exercise app.
This all goes back to version 1.0 versus 1.01. Many people (including myself), were upset that the heart rate readings were not taking place as frequently in the 1.01 update because if you were moving (walking briskly) the readings would not happen and thus not register the rise in your rate unless you manually used the exercise app (which I did not like bothering to do). I'm happier now that the OS2 seems to have reverted back to the regular readings. I don't have to use the workout app just to walk my dog and register brisk walks.

There is no difference in the heart readings between 1.0.1 and 2.0. Apple did not revert to 1.0-style readings. The heart-rate is not taken when you are walking/doing exercise in 2.0. I'm not sure why exercise readings are way up now, but it's nothing to with heart rates since no readings are taken when you're moving around.
 

Thepixelsedge

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Apr 24, 2015
101
32
Toronto, Canada
There is no difference in the heart readings between 1.0.1 and 2.0. Apple did not revert to 1.0-style readings. The heart-rate is not taken when you are walking/doing exercise in 2.0. I'm not sure why exercise readings are way up now, but it's nothing to with heart rates since no readings are taken when you're moving around.

My heart rate data from yesterday begs to differ. I did not start the exercise app a single time yesterday and yet, as you can see, roughly every 10 min a reading was taken while I was at work.

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CellXor10

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Apr 23, 2015
174
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Connecticut, USA
I most definitely agree and have seen similar results with my Exercise ring. Heck, it's 9:53am and I already have 60 minutes registered. I racked up 181 minutes yesterday. All with my "normal" walking routines, when I used to get somewhere in the 35-65 minutes. Never filled up anywhere close to these numbers before.

And, from what I've experienced, the heart rate monitor has not diverted back to its 1.0 style of measuring every 10 minutes regardless of movement.
 

WilliamG

macrumors G3
Mar 29, 2008
9,922
3,800
Seattle
My heart rate data from yesterday begs to differ. I did not start the exercise app a single time yesterday and yet, as you can see, roughly every 10 min a reading was taken while I was at work.

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The heart-rate monitor will take readings every 10 minutes if you're NOT moving around. When you start moving around it pauses that 10 minute reading. You can see that in your readings, too. I'm guessing you went to the bathroom or got a snack around 1:50pm yesterday. :)

There really are no changes to the readings since 1.0.1.
 
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