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Add Battery to Mini?


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Hardly ever. We have indeed pulled the cord out of the back when pulling it forward to plug a peripheral in (luckily not in middle of a session so nothing was lost). We occasionally rearrange the room, necessitating powering down. It is plugged into a UPS so we once did move the two together to clean up room, keeping it plugged in. But we normally power it down to move it. That will not be necessary with battery.
All the ports on the mini are in the back, right? If you need to frequently plug things in and out of the mini ports, how about positioning the mini with the ports facing forward? Or perhaps sideways, whichever way that leaves the ports more accessible.
 
It's hard and annoying enough to get batteries in portable Apple devices replaced as is.
This attitude is why I included the third option to take the battery out of the MacBook and just use it plugged in, like the Osborne 1 “portable computer” that plugged in, or like my old white MacBook after the battery died and I taped the MagSafe cable to it. Couldn’t use it without plugging it in, and had to power off to take it to the coffee shop (remember 2010’s when people were always looking around for a seat near an outlet, asking ”can you plug this in for me please?” I was that guy every day, it sucked), but I used it like that for a while until I got the new Air. I preferred having a battery, but maybe you would prefer the no battery option for less cost and complexity.
 
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An Apple branded UPS, specifically calibrated for Apple Silicon Macs isn't a bad idea. But an integrated battery definitely is.
A UPS doesn’t protect against the cord getting caught and getting pulled out by pulling it forward. It just sits there thinking everything is hunky dory. If it has never happened to you it means you live a repressed life of walking on eggshells, and your wife is having an affair.
 
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Seems like the real solution here is a M4 (base/Pro/Max; there are options) MacBook Pro; but apparently that is an amateur solution...

Another option would be an ASi Mac mini for the desktop & an ASi iPad Pro for on-the-go; both running Logic; if OP still wants some form of touchscreen control...

But the sad reality is that OP is too stubborn to take a minute or two to properly save an open session and shut down their old Intel Mac mini (or take proper care with accessing the rear ports), so they feel a Mac mini with an internal battery is the ONLY solution...

OP really needs to look at what others in the music engineering field are doing; I guarantee they are not lamenting the lack of a battery powered Mac mini; I would expect many are working from laptops & iPads, or simply using a portable hard drive (properly backed up, of course) between assorted locations...
 
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The take home from this should be that the "class" of processor can be pretty arbitrary, and not what distinguishes a laptop from a desktop
I found out about the difference between laptop and desktop chips when I naively bought a MacBook Pro i7 to run Pro Tools, thinking I’d get the same performance as an i7 desktop. It was a disaster, airplane noise fans coming on immediately, and could not handle my sessions recorded on aging Dell Pentium (which was super fast, with DDR4 ram that made it faster than Mac towers. Producer Paul Kolderie came by one time and told me it was faster than the Mac’s he was using at the time). Everyone was like, dude of course a laptop isn’t as fast as a desktop, it’s a MOBILE version of the chip! You need the DESKTOP version! It was common knowledge apparently but I just thought an i7 was an i7. I quickly returned it and built a Windows machine with a desktop i7 that I used until I got my iMac (i5 but still faster) in 2020.

Edit: As long as I’m name dropping for some credibility, here is an amazingly good album recorded on that Dell Pentium when it was brand new (but not by me, I can only take credit for buying and setting up the computer.)
 
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Seems OP is basing all of their woes on older (hotter/louder) Intel powered Macs; and OP also seems to have a lack of knowledge in regards to chip differences ("...just thought an i7 was an i7..."), even though the Internet is out there, a vast resource of knowledge for many things...
 
A UPS doesn’t protect against the cord getting caught and getting pulled out by pulling it forward. It just sits there thinking everything is hunky dory. If it has never happened to you it means you live a repressed life of walking on eggshells, and your wife is having an affair.
Sounds like a human problem and not a problem with the desktop computer being a desktop computer.
 
Seems OP is basing all of their woes on older (hotter/louder) Intel powered Macs; and OP also seems to have a lack of knowledge in regards to chip differences ("...just thought an i7 was an i7..."), even though the Internet is out there, a vast resource of knowledge for many things...
Maybe, but the way Apple released M1 on low end machines first, and stuck with Intel desktop chips in their pro machines, made me think I’d be taking a step back in power from my high end Intels with lots of RAM. Now the M3 apparently beats my machines, but they still are forcing me to buy two very expensive and limited machines instead of realizing the benefits of AS eliminating the distinction between desktop and mobile (that you guys are now telling me never existed).

Turns out the internet is full of hype and bad information. I have looked for expert benchmark tests to tell me if I still need 16G for a DAW as was recommended 10 years ago, or if I could get away with 8. I’m guessing I still need 16, and maybe the Pro, but internet gives nothing but vague advice that makes it seem ego driven (am I a “pro” or not?)
 
It could be the same designs and battery as a MacBook or iPad, just morph the form factor and leave out the screen and keyboard.

keep it the same... but change it? you do realize what may be easy to type, just isn't always how the real world works.

you just cant shove a battery inside a Mac mini case and call it a day. thats a recipe for disaster.
 
Hardly ever. We have indeed pulled the cord out of the back when pulling it forward to plug a peripheral in (luckily not in middle of a session so nothing was lost). We occasionally rearrange the room, necessitating powering down. It is plugged into a UPS so we once did move the two together to clean up room, keeping it plugged in. But we normally power it down to move it. That will not be necessary with battery.

so you want all these changes and extra cost for something you hardly ever do?!

I was laughing so hard my wife asked me what was up and all I could say was 'you can't make this 'stuff up.'

come on, you know April 1 was two months ago right?
 
An Apple branded UPS, specifically calibrated for Apple Silicon Macs isn't a bad idea. But an integrated battery definitely is. It's hard and annoying enough to get batteries in portable Apple devices replaced as is. Adding that in as an internal element to a Mac mini would create added complexity with not enough benefit.
Definitely agree with this - one big attraction of the desktop Macs is no battery that will need eventual replacement.

For me, being able to power an A18/A19 Mac through a USB-C port using Power Delivery would be an interesting concept, even PoE which should be able to feed a 25w device. But again Apple will not be selling a Mac Nano with an A series CPU because PoE and power via USB-C Avery much edge cases.

If you really need something with 'battery backup' then you may as well get a MacBook Air and you get keyboard, trackpad, and screen in a nice compact and convenient form factor.
 
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you just cant shove a battery inside a Mac mini case and call it a day. thats a recipe for disaster.
Yes, it would be the next generation Mini (some suggest a name change to Mac Nano reflecting the new smaller and portable design), it would need a new case and new battery and motherboard forms from what is used in the MacBooks and iMacs and Mini currently. My point was that Apple has already worked out the battery circuit design for M3 Pros in MacBooks and iPads, so it isn’t something impossible. Apple has computer designers still working for them, don’t they? I bet they could design the new Mini in a day.
 
Yes, it would be the next generation Mini (some suggest a name change to Mac Nano reflecting the new smaller and portable design), it would need a new case and new battery and motherboard forms from what is used in the MacBooks and iMacs and Mini currently. My point was that Apple has already worked out the battery circuit design for M3 Pros in MacBooks and iPads, so it isn’t something impossible. Apple has computer designers still working for them, don’t they? I bet they could design the new Mini in a day.
The Mac mini is already niche. There’s even less of a market for this thing you’re describing (and it would likely be more expensive than the Mac mini).

I kinda feel like we’ve been roped into an elaborate troll, you’ve always got some sort of comeback that maintains your bubble. Coupled with the poll options, makes it feel even more troll-like. Are you serious about this idea, or is this a wind-up?
 
For me, being able to power an A18/A19 Mac through a USB-C port using Power Delivery would be an interesting concept, even PoE which should be able to feed a 25w device.
You seem to think the Mini draws more power than the MacBook Pro, which is happily powered with USB C to a power brick, that also powers a bright 16” screen. The Mini uses the same chips and same clock speed and specs as the MacBook Pro, and it doesn’t have a screen, so of course it could easily be powered over USB C too. But it isn’t, because old perceptions are still stuck.
 
I have a custom M2 mini running off USB-c. Takes a 45w psu to run (I use Anker ones). I also experimented with POE+ (30w) but this wasn’t stable. Would run off 60 W Poe++ of course but all the power splitters for this are huge. I run mini PCs off POE+ all the time but I don’t see apple reducing their max power input anytime soon
For me, being able to power an A18/A19 Mac through a USB-C port using Power Delivery would be an interesting concept, even PoE which should be able to feed a 25w device. But again Apple will not be selling a Mac Nano with an A series CPU because PoE and power via USB-C Avery much edge cases.
 
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Might want to pick an actually good idea if you want positive affirmation, then. 🤷‍♂️

Brutal, but so so true.

But I suspect this is a joke. It's just too ridiculous to actually be a serious idea. And the absurdity of some of the rationale behind it kind of show the OP is just trying to rile people up. Well, 5 pages of comments and counting. Success I suppose.
 
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Are you serious about this idea, or is this a wind-up?
I joined this forum to share my idea for a this product, before the M came out, and I was really expecting a “one more thing” Mini with a battery, to highlight the new AS line of chips. But it didn’t happen then so I am still keeping the idea alive, and I’ve heard the mystified response over and over from the same people so I am a little fed up and mocked them in my latest plea.
 
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Brutal, but so so true.

But I suspect this is a joke. It's just too ridiculous to actually be a serious idea. And the absurdity of some of the rationale behind it kind of show the OP is just trying to rile people up. Well, 5 pages of comments and counting. Success I suppose.
It’s like trying to argue with a conspiracy theorist, he’s always got an answer that defies logic.
 
You seem to think the Mini draws more power than the MacBook Pro, which is happily powered with USB C to a power brick, that also powers a bright 16” screen. The Mini uses the same chips and same clock speed and specs as the MacBook Pro, and it doesn’t have a screen, so of course it could easily be powered over USB C too. But it isn’t, because old perceptions are still stuck.
I'm actually thinking of a compact and power efficient Mac - something like a Raspberry Pi. The idea being that if you really wanted to have a cheap UPS you could add a high power USB-C power bank.

I really can't see Apple thinking that a battery inside a low selling Mac mini is going to be a big seller of any kind though.
 
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