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Let's be honest, it's not minor.

You could have an amazing dining table, polished walnut wood with mahogany inlays, gold metalwork around the legs, all beautifully french polished.

They remove half an inch off one of the legs, so whilst everyone is sitting at the table eating their meal on fine china, the table keeps rocking every time anyone places any weight on the table.

Lovely table, but the experience is ruined.

Holding the table up the wobble is gone.
So Apple would make an anti-wobble case for the times you want to use your phone on a flat surface?


No, this is nothing like your example. That would be like you using your phone in your HAND and it wobbling and doing something to ruin your experience. A table is meant to be used as such, and yes a short leg would ruin the experience for the table, but to say a phone which is used primarily in your hand would have its experienced ruined because of a small protrusion on the back is a stretch to say the least. I have an iPhone 5S and an iPod touch with the protruded camera. Using it on the table is not affected by its camera, nor does it ruin the experience. While we are at it we might as well say the rounded edges would ruin the experience of the iPhone 6 because you couldn't place it flat on its side while watching videos or recording! The experience is ruined!!! (sarcasm)
 
No, this is nothing like your example. That would be like you using your phone in your HAND and it wobbling and doing something to ruin your experience. A table is meant to be used as such, and yes a short leg would ruin the experience for the table, but to say a phone which is used primarily in your hand would have its experienced ruined because of a small protrusion on the back is a stretch to say the least. I have an iPhone 5S and an iPod touch with the protruded camera. Using it on the table is not affected by its camera, nor does it ruin the experience. While we are at it we might as well say the rounded edges would ruin the experience of the iPhone 6 because you couldn't place it flat on its side while watching videos or recording! The experience is ruined!!! (sarcasm)

Yeah I agree. Seriously, who uses their iPhone by laying it down on a flat surface? You would almost have to hold it with your other hand to keep it from sliding when you use the touchscreen..., and it would definitely move if you pressed the home button even slightly off from directly straight downward motion. 99% of the iPhone usage is from it being held in someone's hand, or mounted in a car. People that complain about this simply don't consider the fact that it is of trivial consequence. By the way, I'm sure the vast majority of people use cases too, and no case in the world isn't going to make that a non-issue. So I'd say if you want to use your phone on a flat surface then you have 3 reasons to put a case on it... to eliminate the potential wobble; to make it grip the surface better (depending on the case); to keep the device from scratching on potential particles on the surface, or the surface itself.
 
Yeah I agree. Seriously, who uses their iPhone by laying it down on a flat surface? You would almost have to hold it with your other hand to keep it from sliding when you use the touchscreen..., and it would definitely move if you pressed the home button even slightly off from directly straight downward motion. 99% of the iPhone usage is from it being held in someone's hand, or mounted in a car. People that complain about this simply don't consider the fact that it is of trivial consequence. By the way, I'm sure the vast majority of people use cases too, and no case in the world isn't going to make that a non-issue. So I'd say if you want to use your phone on a flat surface then you have 3 reasons to put a case on it... to eliminate the potential wobble; to make it grip the surface better (depending on the case); to keep the device from scratching on potential particles on the surface, or the surface itself.

Exactly! I even made a video just now of me using my iPod touch on a table just to show everyone on this board who are losing their minds that its really no issue, like at all...not a small issue, NO issue. But I don't know if really should upload it and post the link lol
 
Just because you can't find it, doesn't make it so. Maybe refer here, to the inventor of it talking about it: http://www.cultofmac.com/54827/liqu...-alloy-may-make-new-iphone-antenna-exclusive/

The only signal that passes through those is Wifi huh? Can bluetooth pass through metal?

Cellular iPads use plastic section at the top for wifi? How do the non-cellular get wifi without that?

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Actually I think they did it because I asked them to try it.

I mean that article seems pretty solid for being 4 years old...
1. Verizon already made an antenna out of liquid metal
2. Liquid metal can be treated like a plastic/rubber and injection molded
3. Currently their appears to be a plastic/rubber in the general area that the antennas generally are on this prototype

This means that Apple could be testing the back shell with plastic/rubber for now, and injecting a liquid metal in place later, (though I have no idea how they would insulate the two.

Do we know for certain that the material in the groves is plastic/rubber or is that just what it appears to be from the pictures? Could it already be Liquid Metal and they are just attempting to dye it to match still?
 
What I really wonder that no word so far about an iPhone 6C ? Is that line dead already? I actually liked the 5C quite a bit. If just the front would be white it would be a perfect phone.
 
So Apple would intentionally make a device thin so it needs the lens to protrude, then the customer will have to buy a case that makes the phone thicker so it will lay flat.

Yeah ?

Couldn't tell if this was a rhetorical or serious question. Either way I'm in no position to answer it.

I still have doubt whether this really is the new design, but prior part leaks this close to announcement were usually accurate..
 
I'm late to notice this

didn't the 5s have the dual LED flash for red eye reduction? It was a pill shaped LED. this one looks round. Is apple moving away from that, have they crammed two LEDs into one circle, or just an incorrect leak?
 
Just because you can't find it, doesn't make it so. Maybe refer here, to the inventor of it talking about it: http://www.cultofmac.com/54827/liqu...-alloy-may-make-new-iphone-antenna-exclusive/

Radio signals can not pass through Liquidmetal.
DoctorKrabs is right.
Your quoted article says that Liquidmetal can conduct radio signals which is not the same as being radio transparent.
If Liquidmetal is going to play any part in the antenna it is going to have to be electrically isolated from the rest of the body.
Otherwise the entire body becomes the antenna.
 
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Well only 3 weeks to go we'll find out if they really doubled down.Every year I get excited to see if the leaks are wrong.If this is the design it will grow on people like all the others.

Yes, about 5 minutes after Apple officially rolls it out, the vast majority of these gripes will evaporate, replaced by "now that I've seen it..." and "shut up and take my money."

The issue is mostly a clash between the established Apple doctrine associated with the reality of the 5s (available now) vs. the likely-but-still-questionable rumors of an iPhone 6. Since Apple hasn't yet endorsed any of the latter's changes, "we" can't unify around anything not on the 5s as "brilliant", "best iPhone ever" and so on. So the collective spin of the faithful is fragmented over every unique rumor.

But once Apple says "Behold the new star-shaped, octagon-screened, Pepto-Bismol Pink with Lime Green stripes, iPhone 6", the masses will unify and the gripes will fall to only a handful… with those making them being called "trolls," as the faithful rally around the new doctrine and spin why pink and octagons make sense: "99% want a pink, star-shaped phone with an octagon-shaped screen", etc.

So Apple would intentionally make a device thin so it needs the lens to protrude, then the customer will have to buy a case that makes the phone thicker so it will lay flat. Yeah ?

Wait until iPhone 8, when they jettison the battery altogether in the name of "thinner and lighter" and it requires a battery case just to be able to turn on. "Our" spin? "Now everyone can get just the right amount of battery we want", etc.

Both ;) (sort of).
 
I can't wait for this phone to be out to end this idiotic speculation.

Why would they fill in the breaks with liquidmetal if the purpose of the breaks is to prevent metal contact?

The bands will be plastic. Deal with it. The breaks in the iPhone 4/4s/5/5s are all plastic too. The home buttons were plastic. iPhone 4 even has a plastic gasket around BOTH pieces of glass!

It doesn't even look too much different from that iPhone 5 you all love so much, which you hated when it leaked.

As with every iPhone that has a new design, you'll bitch about things that don't matter, and then when you buy the phone, you'll realize that it's less about how it looks, and more about how it feels in the hand.

Everyone cried about the glass back on the iPhone 4, and how the iPhone 5 still has glass inlays that crack. Guess what, bitches? This new iPhone has no glass on the back! Isn't that what you asked for?

Everyone cried about iOS 6 being ugly with its realistic textures. Then they give you iOS 7. No more textures! Isn't that what you asked for?

Apparently any time Apple gives users what they ask for, those users don't like it. And then they get it, and love it.

I agree with you, can't wait for September 9th to end all these rumours and speculcation. I have no problem if this is the final design of the phone, looks good to me and I'll be buying with no complaining or whining.
 
why not just make the phone the same thickness as the lens? makes much more sense to me at this time anyway. when camera tech evolves then make it that much smaller...

Agreed, I cannot stand the way the iPod Touch's lens protrudes. If you ever use the device on a flat surface (like your desk) it results in the device rocking back and forth on the lens as you type/interact with it. Incredibly annoying, plus that protruding lens gets caught on pocket lips and the likes... I completely prefer a uniformly flat device. :(

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I hope there will not be any protruding part near the camera... it would be awful!

Go checkout the iPod Touch if you want to see just how awful it is. It really is truly terrible, I can't stand it. :(
 
Radio signals can not pass through Liquidmetal.
DoctorKrabs is right.
Your quoted article says that Liquidmetal can conduct radio signals which is not the same as being radio transparent.
If Liquidmetal is going to play any part in the antenna it is going to have to be electrically isolated from the rest of the body.
Otherwise the entire body becomes the antenna.

Read what I said. I said they could use a tiny band to isolate the two, instead of a huge band.

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Lots of people.

Look around sometime at everyone flicking through messages on an iPhone while it's laid flat on a table, especially at restaurants or when they're at a desk studying.

As I said 99% of the time it's in a hand, and I don't see how you flick through messages without itching around at all. I'd be more worried about it moving constantly, than wobbling. Unless you mean to say that you specifically touch so lightly as to not let it move from your touch, or you use your other hand to stabilize it and keep it from moving, if the latter, you'll be able to stabilize it with your hand anyway.

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Yes, about 5 minutes after Apple officially rolls it out, the vast majority of these gripes will evaporate, replaced by "now that I've seen it..." and "shut up and take my money."

The issue is mostly a clash between the established Apple doctrine associated with the reality of the 5s (available now) vs. the likely-but-still-questionable rumors of an iPhone 6. Since Apple hasn't yet endorsed any of the latter's changes, "we" can't unify around anything not on the 5s as "brilliant", "best iPhone ever" and so on. So the collective spin of the faithful is fragmented over every unique rumor.

But once Apple says "Behold the new star-shaped, octagon-screened, Pepto-Bismol Pink with Lime Green stripes, iPhone 6", the masses will unify and the gripes will fall to only a handful… with those making them being called "trolls," as the faithful rally around the new doctrine and spin why pink and octagons make sense: "99% want a pink, star-shaped phone with an octagon-shaped screen", etc.



Wait until iPhone 8, when they jettison the battery altogether in the name of "thinner and lighter" and it requires a battery case just to be able to turn on. "Our" spin? "Now everyone can get just the right amount of battery we want", etc.

Both ;) (sort of).

You may actually need help, I'm not sure yet.
 
It will lay flat if you put a case on it that is about the thickness of the camera protrusion :eek: If the camera does indeed protrude (which looks to be more and more likely), and if I decide to buy one, that is the first thing I will do.


fail

then why bother with a thin phone, why bother with aluminum if you are gonna cover it with some crap case?

hilarious.

:rolleyes:
 
fail

then why bother with a thin phone, why bother with aluminum if you are gonna cover it with some crap case?

hilarious.

:rolleyes:

Thinner usually means lighter, and it enables better and more varied cases. I don't understand why anyone would want to use a 5th gen Touch naked. It's too thin and slippery to hold comfortably. OTOH, in a case like the Griffin Reveal, it's perfect. I expect the phone will be the same.
 
It's fairly obvious the top and bottom "bands" will be filled with some material that will protrude like the camera, making it SIT FLAT on surfaces since the camera protrudes.

Am I the only one realizing this?
 
Yes, you're the only one. Imagine 2 blades of some material sticking out of those slots at the same depth of the lens. I think it would look like a little pool table when sitting on a flat service. A more realistic (game of) pool app experience?

Face down, it would look like a little horse jumping course. Trot along, jump the hurdle, trot along, jump the second hurdle, then QUICK!- smile for the close up.

Note those griping about how the protruding lens on the Touch catch going into pockets. Now this would have 3 things to catch as you try to pocket the phone.

Best answer: don't choose thin (design) over utility. The answer we'll get: "thinnest iPhone ever" (ignoring one corner that will stick out).
 
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Yes, you're the only one. Imagine 2 blades of some material sticking out of those slots at the same depth of the lens. I think it would look like a little pool table when sitting on a flat service. A more realistic (game of) pool app experience?

I'm fairly certain that's much better than some ridiculous wobble if you place it camera side down.
 
I think that it looks good, and that most people griping will still buy it. My daughter has a ipt 5th gen. Camera has never been an issue. I swear apple could cram a high end camera with dslr specs and there'd still be complaints about a protruding lens.
 
fail

then why bother with a thin phone, why bother with aluminum if you are gonna cover it with some crap case?

hilarious.

:rolleyes:
What's hilarious is that people don't know that the thickness of the phone + the thickness of the case = the total thickness of what you're holding. If the phone is thinner then what you are holding is thinner. To use numbers: 7mm + 2mm = 9mm. If the device went to 6mm you then have: 6mm + 2mm = 8mm. Thanks for reading.

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It's fairly obvious the top and bottom "bands" will be filled with some material that will protrude like the camera, making it SIT FLAT on surfaces since the camera protrudes.

Am I the only one realizing this?

Yeah because that's the most ridiculous thing any of us has heard of, and there's a 0% chance of that happening.

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Yes, you're the only one. Imagine 2 blades of some material sticking out of those slots at the same depth of the lens. I think it would look like a little pool table when sitting on a flat service. A more realistic (game of) pool app experience?

Face down, it would look like a little horse jumping course. Trot along, jump the hurdle, trot along, jump the second hurdle, then QUICK!- smile for the close up.

Note those griping about how the protruding lens on the Touch catch going into pockets. Now this would have 3 things to catch as you try to pocket the phone.

Best answer: don't choose thin (design) over utility. The answer we'll get: "thinnest iPhone ever" (ignoring one corner that will stick out).

Thin is a utility.
 
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