Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Adele's New Album Won't Be Available on Apple Music
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Way to stand up for thieves pal. Silk Road's got a job opening for you, do us a favour and take your moderating services over there. Your inflated sense of personal entitlement is sickening.
Uh... who am I trolling where? My iTunes frequently either crashes or refuses to play iTunes Radio. I never close iTunes. If iTunes isn't open on my computer, it's because it crashed.
Taylor Swift had a good point when she boycotted Apple Music and she helped many indie artists make some rent paying money and she had all her albums on day one. Now Adele is being extremely greedy for no reason. She seems to just be after sales and breaking records and not for the fans anymore.
I thought that streaming was included in album sales figures but I guess that would be difficult to include for a whole album. I think its singles that are included.
Lets assume streaming figures dont count for record sales.
I'm really suprised you dont think a professional wants to be at the top, and break records ie the nsnyc 2.5M + US first week record. Surely you would?
With regard to her greed, she has a family why not make as much as possible.
My understanding is the cost of the record ends up being her bill & there are a lot on the wage bill envolved on '25'. Plus I think artists only get approx 10% (depending on the artist) so maybe $2.5M in a week not Richard Branson, Warren Buffett standards. She is worth £50M not £600M. Some lottery winners here are worth over £100M for buying a ticket for £1!
She also appears very grounded in interviews.
She has not forgoten her roots.
The album will be available for streaming, my guess within a few weeks & it will be the better 'Target' version with three extra tracks, (that are said to be excellent additions)
Last edited:
Do a little research and you'll find that the amount of money made by the artist is quite small. The big chunks go to the writer of the song, the label and Apple (yes, Apple get more for a song than the artist singing it). I know that TS gets a lot of money as she is the composer and performer and produces her own stuff. I'm not sure about Adele....
I'm not a fan of TS's music but as a business person, my hat is off to her. It her 'IP' and she is protecting it....and as a result, she's worth $200M.
So now it's not enough that people want the album for free, pretty much even the top players available should be willing to work for cheap or free just because she's talented? Session players deserve appropriate compensation.
And many of them have also recorded albums that were much more expensive. I stand by my original statement, depends on the album. Some albums are Please Please Me, and some albums are Sergeant Pepper. Just because one album is cheap to make doesn't mean that all albums are cheap to make.
From the who? Do you generalize much?
Buying in the iTunes store is pretty damn convenient. Unless by "convenient" you mean "doesn't want to pay for it."
Yes, and it will feel soooo good!
Why?
Last edited by a moderator:
I agree. The iTunes store is very convenient. I addressed in a post above that the value proposition isn't very strong there.
Anyone who sells music (artists, labels, stores, etc) must treat piracy like a competitor and compete with it, rather than crying about ethics or demonizing/shaming fans. It's not fair and it's not right. But that's the way it is and nothing will change it.
I'm not sure exactly what point you are making. But it appears that 1. this album is breaking sales records and 2. piracy has been extremely low for an album this popular. http://www.musicbusinessworldwide.c...on-this-chart-and-its-a-really-important-one/
If the nsync USA record being beaten (by keeping '25' from streaming) then this has been achieved with days to spare:
http://qz.com/558615/sales-of-adeles-25-just-smashed-a-15-year-record/
maybe '25' could now be available to stream soon after 17.45 GMT Friday when the UK charts are released.
Hope its the 'Target' 14 track version.
Its no 1 in the USA charts which I guess is the 'important' market, its already broken records, surely the record company and Adele must be ecstatic. Time soon to keep all the fans happy?
http://qz.com/558615/sales-of-adeles-25-just-smashed-a-15-year-record/
maybe '25' could now be available to stream soon after 17.45 GMT Friday when the UK charts are released.
Hope its the 'Target' 14 track version.
Its no 1 in the USA charts which I guess is the 'important' market, its already broken records, surely the record company and Adele must be ecstatic. Time soon to keep all the fans happy?
Last edited:
it's also a load of crap, look at their screenshot of the pirate bay it's not even sorted by seeders or leechers (downloaders) ed sheeran's x was being downloaded by 45 people at that time yet makes it on to the list? i don't think so.
i think they found a dodgy mirror of the pirate bay.
see the comments below, other torrent sites do in fact show adele's album to be right up there in the most torrented.
a story based on complete bollocks. i hope they get plenty of advertising revenue from it or tim ingham will be looking for a new job!
obviously a website to avoid (musicbusinessworldwide) hope my link ^ is more accurate!.
cheers
I think it is more accurate.
there are theories and research that say that music piracy doesn't harm album sales and in fact increase them (people might hear an album illegally and then go on to buy it, while others would never have bought the album anyway so it doesn't change anything there).
however music streaming clearly does affect album sales, the whole USP of these services is give them the price of an album a month and you can have access to all of them (holdouts excepted) - the idea is never to have to buy music again.
I'm a Google Play Music subscriber and I love it, I pay around £8.50 per month (with 15% off Google Play voucher discounts). I have spent a fair bit of money over the years to be fair on vinyl, cassettes, cds and itunes downloads.
I had no idea that steaming _does count_ towards albums charts in the UK.
http://www.officialcharts.com/chart...-include-streaming-data-for-first-time__8012/
using the formula
Attachments
I think you will have to wait until the Christmas holiday is over before it gets streamed, I think they are aiming for it to be one of the top gifts this year.
yes good point, the record company has a 'plan'. Hope you're wrong though!, looking forward to hearing '25' in full.
What is also interesting is I have read that Adele wanted to be in A&R as a career _before_ deciding on launching her own career as a singer songwriter.
Because of this, I'd say she does enjoy having a big influence on how the business side is run.
She's actively involved in the major decisions I'd guess.
Last edited:
I agree they came around lots of circumstances they will come around this too! Go on Adele and TS
Interesting read on this thread.
I'll be buying the album on iTunes. I am happy to pay the artist I like for the music they make.
I'll be buying the album on iTunes. I am happy to pay the artist I like for the music they make.