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Adele's New Album Won't Be Available on Apple Music

grayyoung said:
What if NYT is wrong. Hello is the lead single and is streaming on Apple Music. Also she just did a major interview on Beats1 and asked Apple to sell her record in Retail stores. Even with this NYT report claiming inside sources are being told it won't be on streaming services, I'd still be surprised if it doesn't make it on Apple Music. I'd be willing to bet it's on Apple Music but no other streaming services.
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I don't think they are wrong, there's other sources, Gizmodo for instance. Further, the album really isn't available on Apple Music currently and it's release day is tomorrow (20th Nov), the single is available but just that. Normally when the album is going to be available it'll be there with the released tracks greyed out.

This is disappointing but there were always going to be some holdouts. The cost benefit of Apple Music still works out for me, as I'm currently enjoying at least 3 albums a month on the service. It would certainly be nice if everything was available to stream right away but I'm guessing this album will be on the service sometime next year, once album sales start to trail off.
 
samcraig said:
No - there's another option. Wait until you can purchase it. Really? You have NO option but to steal it? That says everything about you and nothing about Adele or her record company.
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Again, not what I said. I said, "So if I want to hear it now, the only option would be to steal it." Not "I have no option but to steal it." There was an "if" attached to the statement.
 
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valkraider said:
What does this have to do with Apple Music or even streaming in general?

This sentiment has been an excuse for piracy since the first consumer accessible recording mediums...
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Pretty sure the comment is valid since people (on here) are talking about it not being readily available via streaming on Apple Music (and other services).
 
modemthug said:
Again, not what I said. I said, "So if I want to hear it now, the only option would be to steal it." Not "I have no option but to steal it." There was an "if" attached to the statement.
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Saved by an "if"?

Contextually speaking - you set the comment up to suggest otherwise though. Your full statement was "I can't even buy a copy of the album on iTunes or a physical copy at the store until tomorrow. I can't stream it today, or ever it seems. I'm already paying $15/mo for Apple Music. So if I want to hear it now, the only option would be to steal it."

So yes. IF you wanted to hear it now - you would have to steal it. But why would you just HAVE to hear it now vs 24 hours from now? And would that justify breaking the law?

As far as I know - Adele and her record company aren't doing anything morally, ethically or legally wrong. Yet some people here (not saying you) seem to think that a good punishment is to break the law as a way to stick it to her.

Even funnier is that I am sure for some - it's the mere fact that they can't that they object to. Not that they would really want to listen to the album. If one can't wait 24 hours to hear an album, they should really consider some level of introspection or perhaps therapy. It's an album. And a 24 hour wait.
 
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dannys1 said:
This at least means I won't accidentally have to hear Adele wailing uncontrollably by accidentally if i shuffle new releases. Excellent news.
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Ain't that the truth. The only reason I can understand people liking her music is that it makes their miserable life seem less miserable listening about hers!
 
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OnTheZone said:
To me this says my album sucks and I know no one will stream it. If I can't stream I won't listen to your songs sorry, unless it's on the radio.
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What? That's completely ludicrous. If anything it says quite the opposite: she values her work that much that she knows it's worth more than streaming would offer. I 100% guarantee you that if she were to stream it she would get that many more listens, but you don't make near as much money from streaming as you do from selling the album.
 
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seventhedition said:
Really finding it hard to justify my continued subscription to Apple Music if I can't get the music I want when it comes out. If I still have to buy certain songs/albums separately, why am I paying $10/month? Think I will cancel and go back to just purchasing the songs/albums I want.
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This is actually far cheaper in the long run anyway.
 
Goodness there is a lot of hate for her for apparently being greedy. If only the same hate was directed towards Apple's greedy behaviour... *Cough*16GB6S*COUGH*
 
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Zyriab said:
People complain when U2 give away their new album for free. People complain when Adele wants them to pay for her new album. What's a poor artist to do?!
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Nobody was complaining that they weren't given a chance to pay for the U2 album. ;)

/For the record, I liked the album and still have some of the tracks on my iPhone.
 
mrgraff said:
Nobody was complaining that they weren't given a chance to pay for the U2 album. ;)

/For the record, I liked the album and still have some of the tracks on my iPhone.
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I'm reminded by last week's iZombie quote which cracked me out

"I'm an acquired taste, like gazpacho or that free U2 album."
 
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LOLobo said:
Last CD I bought was almost 15 years ago. No one in my household buys CDs. No one I know buys CDs. I know they're out there, I just don't know them. o_O

I don't even see this move to not offer the album to streaming services as greed, but rather as ignorance. My uneducated guess is that she has advisers under her that are afraid to tell her that her decision is not ideal for modern distribution.

Ignorance because of the following two reasons:
#1 -- I read somewhere that she still uses an antiquated flip phone (which is fine, but shows an aspect of her non-evolving tech character.
#2 -- Apple doesn't carry CDs, so asking them to carry your physical CD is like asking Babies 'R' Us to carry hard liquor and cigarettes.
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I am starting to buy CDs again.
 
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OneMike said:
greedy for an artist to want to be paid and have control over their music?
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To a certain extent, yes. How many other occupations can you simply refuse to offer your services until whatever arbitrary demands you make are met? I can just imagine people calling up their bosses and saying, "I decided that you aren't paying me as much as I should be making, and I should also be allowed to come in late and leave early, whenever I feel like it. For these reasons, I have decided that I won't be returning until you've given me a raise and cut my work week down to 32 hours."

Mostly I just see Adele and Taylor Swift as complete morons, believing every bit of garbage their labels tell them about how "unfair" the streaming services are, when in all actuality, the labels are taking just as much off the top of their streaming revenue as they do with hard copies. Despite the fact that there is literally no overhead involved in streaming, they find it perfectly acceptable that their labels charge them the same packaging fees as hard copy sales. They are pawns in the corporate game of pop chess.

Further, the fact that these two idiots think streaming is bad for their business denies the fact that paid streaming services are the first in almost a decade to get people like me to pay for the music I listen to. I have no interest in the "pay first, then listen and see if you like it" model. What other job can you get 100% of your payment before your customer even knows what they're getting?
 
Never mind, I'll find someone like you... on Apple Music. On second thought, I'll probably just listen to good music instead.
 
adamneer said:
To a certain extent, yes. How many other occupations can you simply refuse to offer your services until whatever arbitrary demands you make are met? I can just imagine people calling up their bosses and saying, "I decided that you aren't paying me as much as I should be making, and I should also be allowed to come in late and leave early, whenever I feel like it. For these reasons, I have decided that I won't be returning until you've given me a raise and cut my work week down to 32 hours."

Mostly I just see Adele and Taylor Swift as complete morons, believing every bit of garbage their labels tell them about how "unfair" the streaming services are, when in all actuality, the labels are taking just as much off the top of their streaming revenue as they do with hard copies. Despite the fact that there is literally no overhead involved in streaming, they find it perfectly acceptable that their labels charge them the same packaging fees as hard copy sales. They are pawns in the corporate game of pop chess.

Further, the fact that these two idiots think streaming is bad for their business denies the fact that paid streaming services are the first in almost a decade to get people like me to pay for the music I listen to. I have no interest in the "pay first, then listen and see if you like it" model. What other job can you get 100% of your payment before your customer even knows what they're getting?
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Moral of the story really is buy the music or don't.

An artist should have to the right to make their music available in whatever media they see fit. A consumer should have the right to speak with their wallet. Win win situation.

Not to single you out, but calling someone a moron for having an opinion different than yours. In my opinion is rather moronic.
 
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GucciPiggy said:
I 100% guarantee you that if she were to stream it she would get that many more listens, but you don't make near as much money from streaming as you do from selling the album.
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So what you're saying is instead of her wanting the most possible people to love and listen to and be inspired by her music - she cares more about simply maximizing profit potential?

That's real art right there.
 
penajmz said:
Greedy. This is just to force people to buy the full album instead of just streaming it. My guess is this will also force lots of people to pirate it.
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Yep! My daughter is going to be asking me to "get" this album for her, since it won't be available on Spotify.
 
naeS1Sean said:
She looks like such a bi@ch in that picture. Not supporting Apple Music isn't helping her case either.
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dmylrea said:
Ain't that the truth. The only reason I can understand people liking her music is that it makes their miserable life seem less miserable listening about hers!
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Harsh comments that don't add anything at all to the discussion, classic MacRumors.
 
valkraider said:
So what you're saying is instead of her wanting the most possible people to love and listen to and be inspired by her music - she cares more about simply maximizing profit potential?
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Yes that's exactly the case. She cares more about maximizing the bottom line than she does about maximizing people's exposure to her work. So what? So does Apple. Thats how most businesses tend to operate and make no mistake about it her music is a multi-million dollar business.

Whether or not her decision actually accomplishes her goal is yet to be seen but at the end of the day she gets to make that decision and you, as a consumer, get to decide whether or not you support that decision with your wallet.

I won't be paying for her album because I'm not a fan of her music but even if I were I wouldn't be upset if she didn't want to offer it up to streaming services. There isn't a content streaming service on the planet that offers up everything I like. When you pay for a streaming service you're not going to get everything you'd like to get. You have to decide what's worth paying for outside of the streaming service and what isn't.
 
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