Adele's New Album Won't Be Available on Apple Music

[AleXXXa]

How is it greedy for someone to want the music they created to be distributed on their terms? Completely up to her and similar artists how they want their music to be distributed

As someone else mentioned, how odd for people to claim she is greedy and then say they will use it as an opportunity to pirate. Not a fan of adele's music and wouldn't have listened to it either way but people should stop acting like Adele or anyone else owes them something

I guess you don't know how the industry works. It was not her decision, it was the label's decision. Artists make almost nothing from album sales (CSs, itunes, streaming etc).

If you wanna support artists better go see them live.
I haven't bought an album in years, but almost every weekend i see a live concert!
You'll find all the music for free on Youtube anyway.

 

[peterdevries]

She and Taylor Swift will come around. Many artists have said they wouldn't stream. Within a year or two they put their tails between their legs and allowed streaming.

I can see a future where artists first only allow sales and enable streaming after a number of months when sales are slowing down. Probably this album will appear on Apple Music in about 12 months or so.

 

[Rafagon]

I don't need Adele! I have a Mac!

 

[samcraig]

Yep! My daughter is going to be asking me to "get" this album for her, since it won't be available on Spotify.

Great lesson to pass onto your daughter.

As if that really makes a difference. The word choice and hostility isn't warranted.

 

[inhalexhale1]

Exactly, it's just executive greed. Get with the times that this is how we want music now, or have you album likely torrented instead.

I think the average Adele fan is more likely to buy the album for $20 (or whatever is costs), versus knowing what a torrent even is.

 

[valkraider]

Yes that's exactly the case. She cares more about maximizing the bottom line than she does about maximizing people's exposure to her work. So what? So does Apple. Thats how most businesses tend to operate and make no mistake about it her music is a multi-million dollar business.

1. Apple does not. They do the opposite. Apple has never really chased profits. Apple has made the products they want to make. They have made them in the way Apple thinks people will like and they sell them the way Apple wants to sell them. Apple routinely has made choices and used strategies which confound the money guys. People *like* this. People *like* the products - and as a result people buy them and Apple makes money. Apple has never done things focusing on the money, at least not since Steve Jobs took the company back from the money guys who very nearly drove it into the ground.

2. A musician should never treat their music as a multi million dollar business. That's the opposite of music. It destroys music. A great example is Metallica... Most of the greatest bands or artists in history have been very anti multi million dollar business. They succeeded because people lived their music - not because they maximized their profit margin.

Adele would not starve if she made a little less from streaming. She would still be filthy rich. She is only hurting her fans.

I have been at *many* concerts where the artists tell their fans to steal their music, to pirate their songs, to illegally record their shows (much to the chagrin of their labels). The fans love them and end up spending $$$ on all kinds of stuff from the artists. Because the artist is doing it because they love the art and they feel the connection with the fans who love the art. And the artists do just fine.

Someone as rich as Adele or Swift or Metallica making decisions like this is just ****** to the hard working fans (many of whom have very little disposable income) who love the music.

The idea is pure greed.

But of course all of you are correct: She does have every right to make that decision with her own music. But it doesn't make the decision any less hostile for the fans.

 

[valkraider]

You are a jerk!

Why? We all look way worse without makeup. That's the whole point of makeup.

Why do you think Adele wears makeup? I bet it's to look prettier, in fact I bet she probably makes the same "omg" when she sees pictures of herself without makeup.

How many of us just about barf when we see our own pics of ourselves when we have not done any prep at all? We know when we look good generally and we know when we don't.

Google almost any star without makeup. They all look much less like stars and more like, well, us...

Doesn't make anyone a jerk for noting that Adele is much less attractive physically without makeup. Because if it wasn't true she wouldn't bother to wear makeup.

 

[oldmacs]

1. Apple does not. They do the opposite. Apple has never really chased profits. Apple has made the products they want to make. They have made them in the way Apple thinks people will like and they sell them the way Apple wants to sell them. Apple routinely has made choices and used strategies which confound the money guys. People *like* this. People *like* the products - and as a result people buy them and Apple makes money. Apple has never done things focusing on the money, at least not since Steve Jobs took the company back from the money guys who very nearly drove it into the ground.

OH please. Selling the iPad 2 in 2014, selling the iPad Mini 1 in 2015, 5400RPM HDDs in 2015, 16GB iPhone in 2015. Apple is hugely greedy. They are no longer about the best experience, its about the bottom line these days.

If Apple didn't 'chase profits' why are their margins so huge? Why don't they sell their products at a bare minimum profit to sustain operations? If Apple was all about the experience the baseline iPhone 6S would not be 16GB. iPhones would cost a lot less than they do etc.

Adele's label is most likely responsible for the lack of streaming. Heck we don't even know what the real reason is, or what negotiations are going on behind closed doors . Going off what you said anyway, people *like* Adele's music so they'll buy it, just like in 2011 when 21 was released Regardless if its on apple music or not (Which still costs the consumer a fair bit anyway, if you want to keep Adele's album like you can on CD, you're forced into a lifetime of subscription rather than one $20 payment).

Adele is not all about 'chasing profits' anyway. She could have easily made multiple albums in the time between the release of 21 and now. She could have made huge amounts of money, but she wanted to do things her way and make the best music she thought she could. She's turned down numerous concert contacts etc. She doesn't play the game, she simply writes music when she wants and does not compromise herself to make a buck like many other artists do.

 

[oldmacs]

I never criticized you for having an opinion, I said your comment was harsh and didn't add any value to the subject being discussed.

Exactly it has nothing at all to do with anything. A lot of people here seem very irrationally hateful towards Adele simply because her album (that it seems most here don't like) won't be on their favourite company's streaming service.

 

[macsba]

Go on Adele, push people to buy it physically too; make it only available C̶D̶, C̶a̶s̶s̶e̶t̶t̶e̶, V̶i̶n̶y̶l̶, 8̶-t̶r̶a̶c̶k̶, r̶e̶e̶l̶-t̶o̶-r̶e̶e̶l̶, Wax Cylinder

How about a wire recording like the ones used during WW2 or a 78 from the old RCA Victrola days?

 

[bpeeps]

What a terrible misleading article title. Jesus. This has nothing to do with Swift or wanting better royalties for artists. This is a pure money grab by one of the highest album selling artists of all time.

 

[bpeeps]

Way to stand up for big business pal. The RIAA's got a job opening for you, do us a favor and take your moderating services over there. Your holier than thou attitude is both insulting and demeaning.

Stating pirating is theft is not holier than thou, it is the truth. Besides if you put out a product and people stole that product instead of paying you for the work you did, I'm sure you get a little "attitude" as well. You seem a little bent out of shape for someone who is getting product for free.

 

[TheTom9]

People should just remember that this isn't really her choice but her executives which is sad. Also who on earth has these days a CD player?! Because I don't and that means -1 person spending £15 on the album.
Sorry

 

[bpeeps]

Things like this are why I don't like Streaming Services. Netflix have the same issue there is always that one piece of content that isn't available and you think to yourself why am I even paying for unlimited access if they don't have what I want?

Sucks that Adele's decided to do this but I can understand why, it will sell more Albums and then later on when the buying frenzy wears off she can open it to streaming services and get some more money.

Netflix can't stream what it doesn't have the rights to. You're paying for unlimited access to their library. Not unlimited access to every song, movie, or tv show ever created.

 

[Quu]

Netflix can't stream what it doesn't have the rights to. You're paying for unlimited access to their library. Not unlimited access to every song, movie, or tv show ever created.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

And my point is, why should I pay if I'm not getting unlimited access? These services aren't free. With the money saved by not paying them I could buy a movie and an album every single month from any creator.

When you get content holes like this situation with Adeles album it brings the whole streaming business into criticism. They don't advertise the services as "You get access to some songs we have" you get advertised as "This is the future of music".

 

[bpeeps]

Again, not what I said. I said, "So if I want to hear it now, the only option would be to steal it." Not "I have no option but to steal it." There was an "if" attached to the statement.

Considering purchasing is still an option, I'm not sure why you list piracy as the only one. But you know, entitlement struggles.

 

[macUser2007]

Ah, let's push more users to the dark side.

The album is not that great, anyway.

 

[bpeeps]

Thank you Captain Obvious.

And my point is, why should I pay if I'm not getting unlimited access? These services aren't free. With the money saved by not paying them I could buy a movie and an album every single month from any creator.

When you get content holes like this situation with Adeles album it brings the whole streaming business into criticism. They don't advertise the services as "You get access to some songs we have" you get advertised as "This is the future of music".

I agree, I'm not sure why you're paying if you don't understand the business model. You have unlimited access to their library. Enough said. You're getting exactly what you're paying for. Apple can't bully an artist into giving them access to their content. When you create content, guess who's choice it is to decide how it's distributed? Your sense of entitlement to every song ever, because you pay for unlimited access to one company's library, is pretty unfounded.

 

[Quu]

I agree, I'm not sure why you're paying if you don't understand the business model. You have unlimited access to their library. Enough said. You're getting exactly what you're paying for. Apple can't bully an artist into giving them access to their content. When you create content, guess who's choice it is to decide how it's distributed? Your sense of entitlement to every song ever, because you pay for unlimited access to one company's library, is pretty unfounded.

I understand the business model perfectly. And I'm not paying because these streaming services do not and will never have everything. It's a waste of money. Adele is a big artist, one I want to listen to. I'm not going to simultaneously pay Apple $9.99 and then buy her album on top for $14.99

I'm not blaming Apple. I'm criticising subscription services in general and how they are all inherently lousy.

 

[Matthew.H]

I am starting to buy CDs again.

I never stopped as its just super convenient and I like the album and booklet. Many of my friends also continue to buy CDs, especially if its their favourite artist (my friends are all between 19 and 20).

Nice to see I'm not the only person still buying music on CD. I'm 23 and always buy a CD version over the download version. I like owning a physical disc rather than a download that has no value after purchase.

 

[8692574]

And we should care because ....??

 

[OllyW]

People should just remember that this isn't really her choice but her executives which is sad. Also who on earth has these days a CD player?! Because I don't and that means -1 person spending £15 on the album.
Sorry

It's available on iTunes so why do you need a CD player?

 

[oldmacs]

What a terrible misleading article title. Jesus. This has nothing to do with Swift or wanting better royalties for artists. This is a pure money grab by one of the highest album selling artists of all time.

And we know this how? We don't know whether this is an executive choice by her label or anything. I'm not aware if she has an album deal or whatever, but considering she never tours, her label may want to make a bit more money. We don't know the full story just yet, rights and management are not a simple issue.

 

[oldmacs]

Nice to see I'm not the only person still buying music on CD. I'm 23 and always buy a CD version over the download version. I like owning a physical disc rather than a download that has no value after purchase.

I know plenty of people who still buy CDs and DVDs. Its not as uncommon as some people would have you believe. If I want a single or a couple of tracks I will buy on iTunes but if its the whole album, the CD is the best of both worlds. Instead of stuffing around with airplay and an Apple TV i simply put the CD into the player. It sounds great as well.

 

[OllyW]

I know plenty of people who still buy CDs and DVDs. Its not as uncommon as some people would have you believe. If I want a single or a couple of tracks I will buy on iTunes but if its the whole album, the CD is the best of both worlds. Instead of stuffing around with airplay and an Apple TV i simply put the CD into the player. It sounds great as well.

CD sales are still huge, last year the total global income from physical music sales was equal to the combined income from digital downloads and streaming services. The balance is shifting towards downloads and streaming but there is still a healthy market for the silver disc.