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Adélie Linux for PowerPC
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I mean, yeah... but did you look at what the guy is including with it? That's one hell of a deal for $230 all in with shipping... I have a spare keyboard and I could work something out for a display... I'm trying to play it safe and only get it when I have the money, but yeah.
This is uhh... completely off-topic, but I don't ever see a sleep light on my iBook. It doesn't have a battery and only runs OS 9 and is the first revision of the new case design. Am I supposed to be seeing one? xD
Is this distro still in development? Has anyone here tested the latest version, Adelie Linux 1.0-RC2...?
I succeeded to install the 32-bit PPC version on my machine, after numerous problems and hours of work... I can now boot automatically to the sddm screen, and login using KDE Plasma desktop. Xfce and Mate do not work, I get only a black screen with a pointer when I try (I have a Radeon HD 6450 graphics board). Startex does not work either. Has anyone else got these working?
My network card I got working by installing NetworkManager. Dhcpcd did not find it... But now I cannot figure how I could disable dhcpcd, so that it would not try to open during boot process eth0, as this unsuccesful trial slows down booting. Any idea how to disable it? I already checked with rc-update that dhcpcd is not set as 'default'.
Firefox 68-esr does not start, it just gives a 'segmention fault'. Does that mean the program is 'broken'?
Vlc does not open, either. It gives the 'illegal hardware instruction' error. AFAIK, this is a typical error of vlc, compiled with wrong parameters... That is, altivec dependency, which should NOT be present in any componets of 32-bit distros, as they are used in G3/e5500 machines!
I succeeded to install the 32-bit PPC version on my machine, after numerous problems and hours of work... I can now boot automatically to the sddm screen, and login using KDE Plasma desktop. Xfce and Mate do not work, I get only a black screen with a pointer when I try (I have a Radeon HD 6450 graphics board). Startex does not work either. Has anyone else got these working?
My network card I got working by installing NetworkManager. Dhcpcd did not find it... But now I cannot figure how I could disable dhcpcd, so that it would not try to open during boot process eth0, as this unsuccesful trial slows down booting. Any idea how to disable it? I already checked with rc-update that dhcpcd is not set as 'default'.
Firefox 68-esr does not start, it just gives a 'segmention fault'. Does that mean the program is 'broken'?
Vlc does not open, either. It gives the 'illegal hardware instruction' error. AFAIK, this is a typical error of vlc, compiled with wrong parameters... That is, altivec dependency, which should NOT be present in any componets of 32-bit distros, as they are used in G3/e5500 machines!
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You may have `net.eth0` or similar. This is the netifrc service, which conflicts with NetworkManager and should be uninstalled (`apk del netifrc`). Note that the `net.eth0` (or eth1 or ..) services should be removed from RC (i.e. `rc-update del net.eth0 default`) and the files removed (i.e. `rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0`) manually before removing the package.
Firefox is known broken on 32-bit PPC right now, but work is (slowly) progressing on that front.
The VLC failure is odd. I tried to test all the multimedia apps on my iBook G3. I'll take a look later.
I have Adelie 6 running on a cheese grater G5. I’ve just started exploring the OS and haven’t been able to get it to mount a cd or a USB. I haven't tried to use terminal or CLI. Any suggestions?
Usually any "automount" on most distros require some deamon/service enabled/running. I didn't test Adélie in any of my machines, but when the time come, why not?
So learn how to use CLI commands it's useful because it enables you to use any *NIX systems (including some OSX commands).
I automount my NFS share on OSX automatically to avoid always locating in the network and connecting, the same apply to Linux.
My tip it's to create a directory in your home folder called mnt and from there you can create other directories for different purposes if you have different needs or in the scenario that you need to mount many things at once.
Also it's good to know the arguments for different file systems that you are trying to mount (some has, some don't, then look the manuals if needed) so my personal example to mount an USB NTFS volume to a mount point.
Code:
sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o nofail,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=007 /dev/YourDevice ~/mnt/DestinyFolderHere are a good reading to this topic
Thanks for the reply!
I agree distros typically are pre-coded to mount CDs and USBs. I have never had one not mount removable storage. In fact, Ubuntu MATE and Lubuntu 16.04 both mounted a 2GB JAZ drive (Iomega) from an installed Adaptec card on my MDD G4. But Adelie has totally ignored USB, DVD, CDs on my G5.
I’ve been reviewing some Linux CLI instruction sites, even tried “man” searches in Adelie for “mount, mnt, disk, fdisk etc, with no luck. I haven’t found anything providing instructions on how to get Adelie to mount removable storage. There are a couple of applications, Utilities in Adelie, one called Removable Storage and the other KwikDisk. Clicking “help” on both apps results in Adelie coming back with “No help manual found”.
I will tell you right now that sudo mount, su mount, sudo mnt, su mnt, have already been tried with the response being command not found.
I’ve been looking for a specific sight discussing CLI commands in Adelie and have come up empty.
I’ll give your suggestion a try and will let you know how it goes. I’ve learned a lot about CLI since starting my Linux journey and have started using this on my Macs when they’re running OSX. I haven’t spent enough time in OS922 to see if terminal is even a thing but that would be super cool!. I know there isn’t a terminal app in the standard OS922 but maybe there is software. I just haven’t looked yet.
Thanks again,
MacMaverick855
Like I said, probably to proper automount some deamon/service must be enabled/working and that's not fault of Adélie, because for each Desktop Environment/File Manager you need different approaches.
In my machines (either X86 or PPC) I like to do it manually because if doesn't work I know instantly, but when it's automatically has a delay that varies to the device, the bus speed and other random factors that the computer Gods roll the dice to tease you from time to time.
Since Adéile it's a new distro and are not based in any other existent distro, probably you won't find many answers. You also have to consider that's an Release Candidate, so it can have some issues, so they need time and our patience (and also bug reports to find those issues as well)
Some distros have an awesome documentation like ArchWiki and Gentoo Wiki but that requires much more effort from the community to step up and make it available, because usually the developers are coding and fixing bugs. So unless the command/application has some unique features, the manuals from other distros should apply in 90% or more of the cases.
Usually many distros have ways to contact them and Adéile has some including IRC that many of this new generation forgot and think that Discord/Slack it's something "new and revolutionary"
I'm far from any Linux Mastery but what I learn from Linux was because I picked distros that weren't Plug and Play...
That takes time? Sure
It's frustrating some times? Of course.
But learning to really use your computer (the feeling of owning) I find much more fun overall... Enjoy your ride as well
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The "classic" Mac OS has the distinction of not having a command line interface at all "because it doesn't need one", so there's no Terminal app to access it.
Are you logged in as
root? If the command prompt is a # sign, you are. In this case, try just mount without anything before it.mnt is not a valid command. sudo must be installed and set up before it'll work. It may not be installed on Adélie.That's why I gave the command that I personally use to mount as an example with all the arguments, and the reading material that explains much more that I could. So let's give time to him.... He can learn as we learn.
I'm no one to supersede anything from anyone...That's why I like forums, to have a minimum sense of learning and communityMy post was in no way meant to "supersede" yours!
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The command line in Konsole (the Adelie Terminal program) has a ~%. "sudo" commands are met with zsh: command not found. "su" followed by my user name returns me to the same line with ~%, no #. So I'm not sure If I'm at the root level.
When I run "ls /dev/sd*" I get a list of all atached drives. I know sda and sdb are the two, 250GB drives, one containing OSX, the other Adelie. My guess is, sdc is the usb drive. In my other OS's, the mount(disk) command places it either on the desktop or the Home Folder. Adelie returns: mount: /dev/sdc: can't find in /etc/fstab. @dextructor, indicated I may need to actual create a mount point for the device. Looks like I have more reading to do.
Thanks @dextructor, @Amethyst1,
MM855
When I run "ls /dev/sd*" I get a list of all atached drives. I know sda and sdb are the two, 250GB drives, one containing OSX, the other Adelie. My guess is, sdc is the usb drive. In my other OS's, the mount(disk) command places it either on the desktop or the Home Folder. Adelie returns: mount: /dev/sdc: can't find in /etc/fstab. @dextructor, indicated I may need to actual create a mount point for the device. Looks like I have more reading to do.
Thanks @dextructor, @Amethyst1,
MM855
Yes you are almost right. It's not Adéile terminal, it's KDE default terminal because you must have installed KDE flavor I guess
I didn't know that KDE shipped with zsh by default, and some of this non standards shells may have some quirkiness on it's own. So I usually suggest that you use default shells until you learn more to be comfortable switching. Change your shell and test the commands. (sh and bash are usually standards)
It can be used, but if you wanna have mounted in the fstab you need the UUID that you can get with the command
Code:
sudo blkidYes indeed.
The problem with many automated process it's you don't learn how things work. The sintax of the mount like in the example that I gave follow the simplest logic "sudo mount /device /mount_point".
Even systems that automatically mounts your devices have a "mount point", so to work on your machine you'll need an "mount point" too.
Keep going.
All good stuff. I went and read up on changing the shell and zsh was the only shell loaded. Following the instructions from the link you sent me I tried to use apt install to get sh and bash, a new problem arose when apt install wasn’t recognized as a valid way to install (apparently) anything. I will research zsh to see if I can find command line instructions it recognizes. I will also dive into KDE to see if it can provide information like “why is zsh the only shell loaded in Adelie?” I have learned that sudo is not recognized but su is.
Thanks,
Mav
Thanks,
Mav
I haven't played with adelie in a while, but if i recall correctly it uses a different package manager. Pretty sure it's pkg add nameofapp. Also make sure your time/date are set correctly or the package manager will complain.
Cheers
Cheers
apk is the package manager. so it's
apk [update,search,del,add,info,fix]. sh and bash are symlinked to busybox's sh implementation. sudo is not installed by default, so you must apk add sudo then add your user to the sudoers file.I am activly testing apps for ppc64 and reporting issues for them. Hopefully it will help in the long run.
I currently have it loaded on a ppc64 G5. It only launches from openfirmware. It resides on it’s own 250GB hard drive. It currently doesn’t auto mount removable media. I’m trying to get that working. It also only wants to drive one DVI monitor. It doesn’t see the Apple studio display. I’ve used the preloaded Firefox and it’s pretty nice. I also would like to get the Airport card to work too. My biggest struggle has been the shell. It currently only has zsh loaded.
It is pretty snappy but it’s very different than the Lubuntu, Ubuntu OSs I have loaded on my MDD and Quicksilver G4s.
MacMaverick855
su
apk add bash bash-completion nanoAdd bash to the allowable shells:
nano /etc/shells/bin/bashctrl-x, y, enter.
chsh
/bin/bash
enter
exitLog in to default non-root user, then:
chsh
/bin/bash
enterAny word on RC 3?
blog.adelielinux.org
2022 State of the Adélie Linux Distribution - The Adélie Chronicle
AUSTIN (May 24, 2022) — The Adélie Linux distribution is preparing to publish its third release candidate, RC3. This long-awaited milestone is a major turning point in the project’s trajectory. Adélie is on track to target supercomputers after the 1.0 general release. We’ve reached several...
I don't recall establishing a root user. I tried su, entered my account password got authentication failure, tried su username, entered the account password, authentication failure, tried su root, root password and the terminal went stupid with a line containing:
%n on %BB%F{white}%m%f%b %B%F={green}%#%f%b
Hitting return or enter just echos the above. The root password may not be correct but I swore I wrote it down properly.
That said, apk is met with unknown command. If I have the root password wrong, or (since I can't remember setting up a root user) there is a "canned" password, I don't have it documented anywhere.
Going to research if Adelie root account came with a password, otherwise I'm screwed. I'm searching through the file structure trying to see if I can find any files with possible answers.
Thanks for your help, I'll be back to reference these responses once I figure out how to enter as root.
MM855
%n on %BB%F{white}%m%f%b %B%F={green}%#%f%b
Hitting return or enter just echos the above. The root password may not be correct but I swore I wrote it down properly.
That said, apk is met with unknown command. If I have the root password wrong, or (since I can't remember setting up a root user) there is a "canned" password, I don't have it documented anywhere.
Going to research if Adelie root account came with a password, otherwise I'm screwed. I'm searching through the file structure trying to see if I can find any files with possible answers.
Thanks for your help, I'll be back to reference these responses once I figure out how to enter as root.
MM855
Any word on RC 3?
2022 State of the Adélie Linux Distribution - The Adélie Chronicle
AUSTIN (May 24, 2022) — The Adélie Linux distribution is preparing to publish its third release candidate, RC3. This long-awaited milestone is a major turning point in the project’s trajectory. Adélie is on track to target supercomputers after the 1.0 general release. We’ve reached several...
There is work being done right now to build packages for x86 and ppc. armv7l is still wip. They are close to releasing nighties very soon™. You can install using the wip repos using rc2 media. I have a G5 up and running this way. Let me know if you want me to tell ya.
Yes, i have that issue as well, you can edit the PS1 for a user with a .bashrc in a user's home folder (/root for root). You can still enter commands, it's just a mangled PS1 prompt, you can ignore it.
Using su, you can just type su, and enter password for the root user to log into a root shell. A root user is set up as the default user, you cannot have a distro without one.
Default password for root on the install media is
live, not sure if you're talking about post install. If apk is not in your $PATH then you must type /sbin/apk in order to use it. The root user has /sbin declare in $PATH by default so you can just type apk as root.---
I would love for the first post to became a wikipost so we can start advertising/documenting Adelie. Or I can just create a new one. The devs have shown interest in a need for the community to spread the word about Adelie so this is a good place to start imo.
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This is a post install issue. I tried “live” as a possible password and had it fail to authorize. This is what prompted me to think I had created (a new) one. So all I have to do is enter /sbin/apk and it will work as if I’m root? That would help immensely! Although I would sure like to use root if I could figure out the correct password.
Finally, are you saying I was at the root level when the Konsole (KDE Terminal) returned that line of symbols, letters and colors? I didn’t even think of trying a command mostly because I was never presented with a # to indicate I was at the root level.
Thanks, more things to try!
MM855
You still need to run
apkas root, either through su, sudo, or logged into the root user.Yes, that was what was happening to me as well. You can always check what user you are by executing
whoami.