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Adobe Acknowledges That Apple's Flash Prohibition Could Harm Business
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Totally sick. The sickest part of all is that Adobe can't find a few good Mac programmers to write better code. And we wonder why they're the new Microsoft? Bloated and buggy...
Yes, Flash might be a "standard" in some respects, but it's controlled by ONE company. How many of us here would be whining and complaining about the proprietary nature of Flash if it were a Microsoft product? But because it's Adobe, we give it a pass. Sorry, it still sucks and it's still bad for consumers. The web should be OPEN.
Maybe Adobe should open source Flash so that other platforms can better support it?
What's funny is no one has commented about how adobe has failed to deliver the flash platform to mobile phones period. Last time i checked the only mobile phone platforms who had flash. Was WebOS and symbian i think.
Where is flash for android , Blackberry or Windows Mobile? So once again even if apple did open up to adobe i doubt they would develop anything for it.
So Flash mobile beta 10.1 has been in development forever. With no sign of release. But it seems like people who hate apple so much forget these facts
Where is flash for android , Blackberry or Windows Mobile? So once again even if apple did open up to adobe i doubt they would develop anything for it.
So Flash mobile beta 10.1 has been in development forever. With no sign of release. But it seems like people who hate apple so much forget these facts
Ahh thank you. Someone with some sense. All the chest beaters hollerin' "Down with adobe! Flash is teh suck!1!" are freaking rediculous.
Fun facts:
• Apple is the reason flash blows on OS X (see above).
• Apple is the reason that the 64 bit version of the CS apps were delayed from OS X while being released on windows.
• Apple is the reason we are don't have flash on the iPhone. Adobe could have crafted a solution that could probably walk on water and jobs still would have said no. Performance is a wonderful scapegoat when nobody but he and internal devs have access to it.
Thanks. You've made my point. Yes, Flash performs much better on a Mac when that Mac is running Windows. Why? Because Adobe can't be bothered to write a decent Flash plugin. Adobe has access to all of the APIs that any other developer can access. What's your point?
And whats the excuse for the lack of flash on the other platforms? Where is flash for blackberry? For Windows Mobile and Windows Phone? For Android?
Not sure there's any point in trying, after seeing HTML5 performance in the iAds presentation.
The law of unintended consequences
The new rules that apple has implemented to, presumably, prevent Flash developers from compiling for the iPhone/iPad may do Apple more harm than good.
There are a number of other IDEs that do the same sort of thing but produce perfectly good apps. The "bad" apps are ones that would be bad regardless of the IDE; the developer makes sucky apps no matter the IDE. Good UI and logical flow do not come from an IDE but, rather, from proper initial design and execution.
What may be the easiest app in which to develop for the iPad might be revMobile; however, it appears that Apple will disallow any apps created with this excellent platform simply because it doesn't like the tools! This is akin to not liking an artist's painting because you disapprove of the brushes or not publishing an author's book because he used an Olivetti instead of a Mac with Pages.
Frankly, I'm disgusted with this and I've sent Steve an eMail telling him so. There are developers of OSX apps that do not use Apple's tools and they could just as easily stop compiling for OSX and only do Windows. If Apple wants support from the developers then they should support all comers.
The new rules that apple has implemented to, presumably, prevent Flash developers from compiling for the iPhone/iPad may do Apple more harm than good.
There are a number of other IDEs that do the same sort of thing but produce perfectly good apps. The "bad" apps are ones that would be bad regardless of the IDE; the developer makes sucky apps no matter the IDE. Good UI and logical flow do not come from an IDE but, rather, from proper initial design and execution.
What may be the easiest app in which to develop for the iPad might be revMobile; however, it appears that Apple will disallow any apps created with this excellent platform simply because it doesn't like the tools! This is akin to not liking an artist's painting because you disapprove of the brushes or not publishing an author's book because he used an Olivetti instead of a Mac with Pages.
Frankly, I'm disgusted with this and I've sent Steve an eMail telling him so. There are developers of OSX apps that do not use Apple's tools and they could just as easily stop compiling for OSX and only do Windows. If Apple wants support from the developers then they should support all comers.
Like-wise, why should Apple have a strange-hold on digital music?
( 70% worldwide market ).
If your going to have a go at Adobe, then look at Apple too...
Sorry for what must be elementary questions, but how does Adobe make money with Flash? Is it through licensing? All you flash programmers out there, do you have to pay money to Adobe to program in Flash?
Ya know. Had Adobe not purchased Macromedia they wouldn't have this problem right now. It sounds to me like Adobe is trying to blame Apple for it's poor decision on buying Macromedia.
Yeah, then why does it also work terrible on Linux? Adobe has already admitted they need to make flash better for the Mac
Excellent points. Flash has been a big buggy mess from day one. And clearly not even Adobe can get it working right on mobile platforms. What's the point? No technology lasts forever. Flash had its day, but the sun is setting. There are better options, better technologies, and they aren't dependent upon a single company to make them work (which, clearly, said company can't do very well).
If Apple would let flash run the adoption of html5 would take years longer, or maybe never occur. Its good that Apple is stepping up, promoting a better technique, knowing it will cost some market share.
IMO, the issue is that Adobe has been a software company with a proprietary software model for too long to where it has hampered the growth of their product line.
Photoshop, Acrobat and Flash all have a lack of public documentation that I have been told was to hide a lot of design flaws that they don't want to admit. Also, the original authors of these packages are allegedly long gone with the code base passed around to lesser talented and less expensive developers treating it like commandments handed down from God himself.
From this, when a real new innovation comes about that challenges the status quo, companies tend to fight changes that may compromise their vested interest. If you think it is bad in high tech try industries like automotive, medicine, energy or construction.
It is an open market model like this that has outside factors let the executives know that they can't sit on faded laurels when a new idea's day has finally come.
You - like many other folks - have confused actual standards with defacto standards.
Let me be very clear on this - Flash is NOT a true standard in any way, shape or form. It only has marginal defacto status due to it's widespread use (and mis-use).
Like it or not, understand it or not, Apple is doing the Internet community a huge favor by sticking a knife into Flash. There's a suitable replacement for Flash, and Apple is demonstrating this via the iPad.
There's a huge portion of the Internet currently held hostage by Flash, which is a proprietary product. Apple is showing that there actually is an alternative.
Letting up on Adobe simply lets Flash hang around for longer. Adobe did themselves absolutely no favors by having a crappy Flash implementation on the Mac - I'd wager that's what ticked Steve off in the first place, plus all of the crappy ports of the other packages. Now they're getting comeuppance, can't be sad about that - they've earned it.
Most design/web design people (Adobe's main target audience) use Macs.
Adobe would suffer a tremendous hit.
The iPad/iPhone OS are less than 1/10th of 1% of Internet accessible devices. It is nonsense that these media companies have let Jobs tell them how to run their own websites for the iPad and iPhone. Mac OS X is at less than 5% of the Internet accessible devices. It is completely stupid that everyone is succumbing to this idiot named Steve Jobs. Quite frankly, I really consider him a raving lunatic.
Steve Jobs has the most incredible mind in innovation and technology... what corrupts that mind is the greed of being AAPL shareholder number one. I certainly have to believe that the AAPL Board runs the Apple show and Steve Jobs is just the "Host" of the show, not the truly running brain of the business end.
Steve Jobs is absolutely essential for Apple and its innovation, but the problem is he doesn't offer a solution now for the customer who wants to surf the "real" Internet with Flash enabled. Steve has no tact, and he quite frankly acts crazy half the time. The problem is Steve cannot think like a business LEADER, he either thinks technology or money in his pocket. He doesn't act like a real leader who is a CEO or President of Apple.
Like-wise, why should Apple have a strange-hold on digital music?
( 70% worldwide market ).
If your going to have a go at Adobe, then look at Apple too...
They don't have a stranglehold. You're free to buy your music from Amazon, from Rhapsody, from e-Music, from Walmart, or anyplace else. And you're free to buy your digital music in formats like AAC and MP3 that are widely supported and open standards.
Sorry, your analogy doesn't work.
So you cannot refute that Flash is a proprietary, unstandardized, security hole, POS. Not part of the Internet any more than any other browser plugin.
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But Mac sales accounts for a large amount of Adobe's overall sales - more than 10%. Its quite a chunk of business to lose.