Adobe 'All-In' on Photoshop for iPad, Illustrator for iPad Coming Next Year

[Lalatoon]

Desktop grade? I don't think so.

How can a touch screen + pencil compete with desktop keyboard shortcut and the precision of a mouse specially with Photoshop and Illustrator.

Well if they can offer more feature then thats great but to advertise that they can work like a desktop version thats funny

Also, I dont like it when your hands will be covering a portion of the screen when using the pencil.

I find it funny when mobile apps are trying to replace desktop apps or mobile devices thinks they can replace desktops and laptops

 

[EvilEvil]

At least it's coming out unlike the AirPower.

 

[cardfan]

High-end apps like these making their way to iPad will drive the final nail into the coffin of traditional desktops and laptops. iPad Pro truly is the future of computing.

So far that has yet to happen though. A lite version with several missing features isn’t exactly high end. It’ll never be close to desktop OS level. iOS simply isn’t capable of that.

Unfortunately adobe promoted a “real” version at apples event last year. Apple is complicit as well because they relied on it to sell iPads. The explanation from Gruber and adobe is laughable. They were perfectly content to let people think a “full version” was coming soon. While others who know better (knowing iOS is too limited) called them out on it from the get go.

I could past several links that talk about “full” photoshop coming soon to iOS from that event. Others say “real” but the context or understanding is the same. Apple or adobe did nothing to set the record straight. A sham. Gruber even indicates adobe knew from day one a “full” version of photoshop was “never the plan.” Yet adobe said nothing. Apple sat silent as well content to sell iPads with a nice little lie.

Adobe announces full Photoshop CC for iPad shipping 2019, syncs with desktop - 9to5Mac

A full, desktop-class version of Photoshop on iOS has been one of the most hotly anticipated creative apps for designers...

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Photoshop for iPad? Adobe Expands Photoshop, Lightroom | Digital Trends

Photoshop will soon be headed to tablets -- as a full version with the same capabilities, Adobe shared during Adobe Max 2018. From a new Content-Aware Fill to finally no longer having to hold the shift key while resizing layers, here's what's new in Photoshop, Lightroom CC, and Lightroom Classic CC.

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[now i see it]

8GB of RAM nowadays is almost required to run photoshop on a modern computer without having to wait for scratch disc swapping. Wonder how powerful this iPad version is gunna be with its paltry ram allotment

 

[aaronhead14]

Utterly useless if it's only available as subscription software. Nobody wants to pay your hefty subscription fees, Adobe!

 

[realtuner]

Read the article. iPad isn't getting full Photoshop either.

It’s getting full blown Photoshop. They might be rolling out some features over time, but that doesn't change the fact at its core it's "real" Photoshop. From Adobe:

Real Photoshop is coming to the iPad so you can create something unreal. All your familiar desktop tools and workflows are at your fingertips, from retouching and compositing to spot healing and blend modes. Layers? They're all here. Resolution? No difference. Your PSDs are exactly the same, whether you're working on your desktop or a mountain top.

This is the whole point. You can open any PSD created on the desktop on your iPad. It won't give you any errors or warnings about some components being incompatible or that it has to convert it into a "simpler" image before you can work on it. You can edit that PSD using all the same familiar tools you already use on the desktop. Then you can save your PSD and later open it on the desktop and everything is as it should be.

There are obviously some features that won't come over (and don't need to). Like customizing the interface (since it's adapted for the iPad). Or all the batch file processing features. It's going to be funny watching the naysayers claim it's not "real" Photoshop because it's missing a few features that don't make sense on a tablet, while ignoring the breadth of features that did make it over.

BTW, Photoshop Express was a very poor example for you to use. It can't even open PSD files. It's a glorified photo editor that Adobe tagged the "Photoshop" name to.
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Well toy versions of them. We have toy versions of office on iPad too. But thats nothing new.

Except these aren't "toy" versions.

 

[pavinder]

Possibly just because I've been using Photoshop for 19 years, but I'm finding the learning curve with Affinity to be very steep. It seems like a great piece of software, although some aspects of it strike me as quite unintuitive and confusing. Months down the track, I'm still using the Help function more than any other.

I'm persisting though, as it's currently far and away the best iPad-based editor available. Affinity have created what is clearly an exceptional product.

That said, I will likely switch back to Photoshop as soon as it's available. Not so much through product loyalty but simply familiarity and accumulated skills.

Honestly I cannot fathom how Adobe, with the huge resources at its disposal, has still not been able to release even a remotely comparable product yet.

 

[mi7chy]

Never buy on a promise. Wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming Surface Pro X gets the full Photoshop first plus it has the specs to run it with 8GB and 16GB DRAM options instead of the joke 4GB for a $1000+ iPad Pro.

 

[thekev]

8GB of RAM nowadays is almost required to run photoshop on a modern computer without having to wait for scratch disc swapping. Wonder how powerful this iPad version is gunna be with its paltry ram allotment

Do you mean 8GB installed or allocated specifically to photoshop. 8GB is pretty normal these days. That aside, you're either going to cache various data or recompute it on the fly at whatever resolution. Photoshop deals with lots of layers, which can be toggled on and off from view. It has to redraw an image or parts of an image at different resolutions to allow zooming. Either they do things lazily or they compute it once and write it somewhere.

I do expect their strategy may shift for the iPad. If they are sticking to a very small group of hardware in this area, they may do a bit more low level tuning.

 

[scottsjack]

Still not buying an iPad. I’m going to be the last hold out.

Don't feel bad. I have a hand-me-down 1st gen iPad Pro. It's okay to fiddle with but is barely usable compared the tasks you can do on a Macbook. I would take a less-powerful Macbook air over any iPad Pro any day.

 

[spotlight07]

I used to buy Adobe software in boxes. I bought the subscription for a few years and now I have found a decent alternative for Photoshop that doesn’t require a subscription. I’ll definitely check it out but I don’t think I’ll subscribe for too long. It’s just not a good value unless you’re a business or a professional graphic designer.

 

[SomeSoftwareGuy]

@spotlight07 Out of curiosity, what are you using instead of photoshop?

 

[realtuner]

Never buy on a promise. Wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming Surface Pro X gets the full Photoshop first plus it has the specs to run it with 8GB and 16GB DRAM options instead of the joke 4GB for a $1000+ iPad Pro.

Surface devices are a joke as tablets. 6 years in and most software STILL isn’t tablet optimized, including Photoshop. If they haven’t done it by now, they’re not going to do it.

 

[Alan Wynn]

I’d rather have my Wacom

Funny, my BF and two other artist friends stopped using their Cintiqs and replaced them with iPad Pros with Pencils using AstroPad (and now Sidecar). Much more responsive with a better feel. My BF uses ProCreate on his iPad Pro as well as Affinity Photo, if he wants to work on the go.

 

[pika2000]

Photoshop and now Illustrator?

But.....the iPad is just a toy. It’s useless for productivity. /s

The iPad will still be a toy for the naysayers until it can download torrents.

 

[calstanford]

"Real" Photoshop 2018 merging into "Not FULL" Photoshop 2020 describes exactly everything that is wrong with large software companies, such as Adobe in this case, today.

 

[msephton]

Nope, As a long-time profssional, I have never heard any company that I worked that uses Affinity. It's a great product but not used by the industry much.

You know Affinity, and many other apps, can save standard file formats? Like PNG or JPG or PSD for bitmaps. Or PDF or EPS for vector. The app used to create those files is largely irrelevant.

I'd like to see numbers to back up your industry claim. Apps like Affinity and Sketch are used to some degree in almost every modern agency I've done work for in recent years. The days of Adobe only studios is long gone in my experience.

Relying on the same inertia that makes people think you need to open a Microsoft Word document to type some words

Exactly this.

The iPad will still be a toy for the naysayers until it can download torrents.

Newsflash: it can be used to do so already.

 

[calstanford]

Now you’re resorting to straight up lies? We had this discussion before (when I asked you to list the Top 10 Android Apps for photo/video). You know very well that’s a dumbed down “lite” version that has nothing in common with Photoshop except the name. Yet you still decided to lie about it. Again.

Neither will this one!!!
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Utterly useless if it's only available as subscription software. Nobody wants to pay your hefty subscription fees, Adobe!

Especially for something that's half-assed and quarter-finished for years to come.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Excited to see how interacting with photoshop is going to be on iPad. The Apple Pencil will hopefully shine here! However if this is another subscription, I am not interested. I’d rather pay one price for the app and then own it with no additional upgrades.

I’m no artist nor even an iPad user. I fully understand the “1-time payment & own software” ideal. What I’m concerned about, and everyone else here thinking about iPad OS is that Adobe at any point can remove the full app from AppStore during any time cycle so that your “owned software is not longer available to you. Let’s say adobe updates hardware support based on a future Apple API that certain new hardware will not support in what 2yrs from now? (I’m reading about Nvidia driver kext file support and hell getting egpu support on macOS. Not fun.

 

[RadioHedgeFund]

illustrator is a start but I’d like to see some other vector graphics apps on the iPad, namely Corel draw, Inkscape or AutoCAD. Nothing too fancy, just something to knock up some laser cutting plans.

 

[Der Keyser]

Just shows that Adobe has been tap’ed by Apple and shown the roadmap - iPadOS is going to be Apple’s major consumer bet going forward. We will soon see the new “iMac’s” - a Mac like Laptop, but ARM based and with iPadOS

 

[YaBe]

Adobe was good when they had Macromedia to compete with after they acquired it, it was downhill ion quality.

Serif, with their Affinity line, is simply a better choice for the future, it is not quite there feature-wise, but it's getting there quite fast, ad an amazing price point, and on top of that, you get to OWN the app instead of renting them.

 

[ajfahey]

Adobe products are too expensive for me to even be curious about them.

 

[bobob]

Yes, $19.99 a month for each program.

I refuse to pay a subscription for software, I rather just buy it like we were once able to.

I agree for amateur users, but if you're actually making some real money with your iPad Pro and Photoshop (ie: $1000++/month), 20 bucks a month for a fully supported and updated software tool is a drop in the bucket.

 

[Alan Wynn]

What I’m concerned about, and everyone else here thinking about iPad OS is that Adobe at any point can remove the full app from AppStore during any time cycle so that your “owned software is not longer available to you.

It has been years since one was able to “own” software from Adobe, so your point is invalid. Adobe can, at any point, on any platform, disable their software and you can no longer use it.

Let’s say adobe updates hardware support based on a future Apple API that certain new hardware will not support in what 2yrs from now? (I’m reading about Nvidia driver kext file support and hell getting egpu support on macOS. Not fun.

Something they can do at any point for every platform. Purely the nature of rented software. Has nothing to do with the platform.