Adobe Announces 2015 Creative Cloud Updates, New Integrated Adobe Stock Service

[AleXXXa]

You'd rather pay $500+ every other year instead of as little as $120 a year?

You don't have to buy it every other year. I still use CS5 from 2010. Guess what, it's still usable and it does what i need.
Plus you don't have to buy it again, just get an upgrade. A PS CS6 upgrade (from CS5) is just 199.

 

[reden]

If that's the case I have a special "thin air" subscription for you! It's only 14,99/month until the end of june, then it's 19,99/month! If you are interested send me a pm. I promise you that you'll get the same use out of it as I would get out of 66% of the apps and services of the CC subscription, nothing!

Do you accept Apple Pay?

 

[jtrauscht]

Proof that Adobe is making a killing on people who can't do math. It's like people who borrow at "reasonable" interest rates and think they're not losing money.

The purchased apps are only more expensive if you upgrade every time a new version is available which many, many people simply do not do and do not need to do. In fact, every business I've ever seen prefers stability in their toolset over jumping on each upgrade. My current employer was still using CS2 before they were forced this year into monthly payments. The subscription method forces you to continue paying whether you use the latest versions or not. The math is grade school level simple. In the long-run, you're paying significantly more in the subscription model than purchasing outright.

And yes, the latest versions of Adobe's software blows chunks. Just yesterday, I had to restart my Mac because Adobe's background desktop service was eating up significant amounts of my CPU time and had caused my Mac to slow to a crawl. And I'm not the only one seeing this: https://support.muse.adobe.com/thread/1848045?start=0&tstart=0

Never had this nonsense with earlier versions of Adobe's apps.

So I can't do math? ... I started a business in 2009, right when the economy tanked. I had limited funds, so I had to do the math. Right when CS6 came out, we needed to purchase several suites of Adobe apps. We did not have the budget to do it, but Adobe happened to launch it's subscription service at that time with a great price. It was a freaking miracle for us. I absolutely did the math, jerk.

 

[jtrauscht]

Back in 2001-2002 your conversation would have been like this:
"You: <answers phone>Hello?
Me: Hi, I've got a series of projects that I need freelance help on for our new campaign. Should last about three months. Can you send me an estimate?
You: Yeah, sounds great. Hey, I use InDesign, is that okay?
Me: InDesign? Sorry, man. We need files that fit in a standard professional workflow. Get back in touch with me once you're up to speed on QuarkXPress. <click>"

Some people have to start using different approaches, and there has to be a challenge for this awful monopoly that Adobe has created in the design industry. I'll probably stay with CS6 until the affinity suite is complete and make my decision then. Maybe I'll have to get CC sometime in the next years, but right now there is not too much difference to CS6 to justify the price and troubles.

There are even missing features in CC from CS6, like the export function in Bridge.

Oh, I agree with your revision to that. In fact, I had many conversations with vendors about InDesign in those days. It didn't take long for them to begin supporting it, and the reason is two-fold. One, because it had the backing of Adobe – the company that wrote the book (literally) on PostScript. And two, QuarkXPress hadn't updated their software in 4 or 5 years by the time InDesign hit 2.0. They abandoned their user base, so the user base moved on. That's not the case, here. Adobe is not abandoning its user base, and they are still providing quality products that are updated regularly.

Bridge was never an app that I used much. I used it for a time to export PDF contact sheets, but that was only because Photoshop stopped including the Contact Sheet II plug-in. But now it's back in PS, and I hardly ever open Bridge.

 

[chaosbunny]

So I can't do math? ... I started a business in 2009, right when the economy tanked. I had limited funds, so I had to do the math. Right when CS6 came out, we needed to purchase several suites of Adobe apps. We did not have the budget to do it, but Adobe happened to launch it's subscription service at that time with a great price. It was a freaking miracle for us. I absolutely did the math, jerk.

I'm glad that the subscription model is working better than buying for you. But look, for some like myself buying would be far cheaper. All we are asking is that Adobe provides that option. I don't see where that would affect those who prefer subscribing in a negative way. Why can't Adobe offer both and satisfy everyone? Because they know damn well that they can milk their customers much better this way. If they would really believe that their subscription model would be a better deal they would have no trouble offering both.

 

[chaosbunny]

Do you accept Apple Pay?

No only credit cards. Oh and by the way, I want to monitor all the activities on your computer from now on.

 

[jtrauscht]

I'm glad that the subscription model is working better than buying for you. But look, for some like myself buying would be far cheaper. All we are asking is that Adobe provides that option. I don't see where that would affect those who prefer subscribing in a negative way. Why can't Adobe offer both and satisfy everyone? Because they know damn well that they can milk their customers much better this way. If they would really believe that their subscription model would be a better deal they would have no trouble offering both.

I actually do agree with your point. I don't know why they won't provide a purchasing option. Although intentionally screwing their customer base seems unwise for a company that killed QuarkXPress because they took advantage of that company screwing their customer base. I suspect there is a less-malicious reason for it. Still, I agree that they should re-introduce a purchase option.

 

[ecommerceedward]

Usually a monopoly only exists if the government prevents competition.

Cable companies are limited to their government sanctioned territories etc, it's why the most hated company in the world Comcast can continue to exist.

You only have one choice of Power / Water / etc..

DMV can exist with insanely long lines.

Taxi cab companies can bribe the government to prevent Uber or Lyft competition in their state.

etc. etc. etc...


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But in the world of software where anyone can download anything instantly I find it strange that Adobe is really the only company making a good photo-paint-shop type of program (until Serif's Affinity Photo now).

Adobe charges a lot of money for Photoshop, I believe the free market will organically fill this void of competition if there's enough demand.

If Serif's Affinity Photo is good product, many people will buy it.

Version 1.0 won't have all the bells and whistles of Photoshop, but it would be silly to expect more than that.

If they make enough money on 1.0 I'm sure they'll keep releasing new versions and they'll hire more programmers to add the high priority features. They just can't sit at 1.0 forever while Adobe slowly improves Photoshop.

I am very happy with the Beta, it could use batching and some other features, I assume there will be a day for that on a newer version.