Adobe Announces Creative Suite 5 including Photoshop CS5 and Flash Catalyst CS5

[JackAxe]

What is it going to take to get Adobe to fix Flash so my computer doesn't turn into a camp fire everytime I go to YouTube?

Funny, I don't have the same problem as you're mentioning, but maybe my Macs are just better, including my G4 DP 1.25 ghz from 2002.

Here are some realistic solutions;

Download the latest version of Chrome(if you're on 10.5 or newer) -- It's a great browser IMO and Flash is now integrated. It has some nice built-ins for devs.

Download Flash Player 10.1 -- it should be released final now, or shortly, it's been in beta. It makes a noticeable difference in performance fo areas like video playback.

If you're on a notebook like either of the MacBook Pros here, you'll need to take extra steps for cooling. I use an app called "Fan Control" and a notebook cooler. My wife is on a Logitech-lap cooler and I'm using an Antec 200 on my desk and I have a Belkin for on the road. Apple's default setting for the fans are too low. I set mine to 2000 RPM minimum with the mentioned app. That coupled with the cooler keep my fans from rarely kicking on, even in Youtube. It also makes the top left of the MBPro always cool to the touch. This is assuming that you don't live where it's really hot.

 

[Penicilin]

And how is this a "Mac Rumor". And on the first page! It looks more as a Adobe commercial or a promotion of their new software for free here on the site and forums!
Good work for their product promotion

 

[Aleco]

What is it going to take to get Adobe to fix Flash so my computer doesn't turn into a camp fire everytime I go to YouTube?

I feel very embarrassed to have the same name as you.

emotion: You fool, you do know that wont happen, FTC will be stomping all over Apple.

Steve has been a d*** for the past couple of years, (Fanboy #1: "oh HE DID NOT JUST SAY THT"), so that iPhone SDK isn't gonna really stand. I'm not sure how that iPhone feature works, I'm 100% sure it's only for Mac's (noshit) so IDK why Steve's crying about it.

Also when it exports, doesn't it export to a Xcode Project, rather than an IPA file?

Anyways, looking to add to my series of Creative Suite collections, I'm ready Adobe.

Penicilin: Most Mac's are used in the design industries, this is definitely something that's needed on the front page. Plus the latest SDK Policy change hasn't stopped Adobe from including their feature, just with a tiny asterisk on the bottom.

 

[JackAxe]

And how is this a "Mac Rumor". And on the first page! It looks more as a Adobe commercial or a promotion of their new software for free here on the site and forums!
Good work for their product promotion

Holy CRAP MAN!!! This is a "MAC" site with lots of creative types, many of us make our bread an butter off Adobe, what's with all the hate?

 

[MorphingDragon]

Funny, I don't have the same problem as you're mentioning, but maybe my Macs are just better, including my G4 DP 1.25 ghz from 2002.

Here are some realistic solutions;

Download the latest version of Chrome(if you're on 10.5 or newer) -- It's a great browser IMO and Flash is now integrated. It has some nice built-ins for devs.

Download Flash Player 10.1 -- it should be released final now, or shortly, it's been in beta. It makes a noticeable difference in performance fo areas like video playback.

If you're on a notebook like either of the MacBook Pros here, you'll need to take extra steps for cooling. I use an app called "Fan Control" and a notebook cooler. My wife is on a Logitech-lap cooler and I'm using an Antec 200 on my desk and I have a Belkin for on the road. Apple's default setting for the fans are too low. I set mine to 2000 RPM minimum with the mentioned app. That coupled with the cooler keep my fans from rarely kicking on, even in Youtube. It also makes the top left of the MBPro always cool to the touch. This is assuming that you don't live where it's really hot.

Yet, we don't need to do that when playing quicktime video.

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No Beta HTML5 in Dreamweaver? None whatsoever? Geez, Adobe. At least give some of us open-standards web-designers people some slack... I was at least going to start preparing for the innevitable.

Bloody hell, I'm actually starting to agree with some of the Firefox team's recent ranting.

 

[Piggie]

Why do all Apple nerds hate Adobe? They're no worse than Apple and them creating their locked-up platform and trying to control everything.

You know exactly why many Apple users hate Adobe.

It's because Steve Jobs has personal issues and hates them.

If Steve Jobs loved them and worked with them, then Apple users would also love them.

 

[MorphingDragon]

You know exactly why many Apple users hate Adobe.

It's because Steve Jobs has personal issues and hates them.

If Steve Jobs loved them and worked with them, then Apple users would also love them.

Or you know, have issues with flash, or develop websites to make a living.

 

[Digitalclips]

Hmm, might be time to upgrade my Photoshop CS. (PPC version running painfully slowly under Rosetta.)



Unfortunately, any mac user who's tried this will eventually run into a problem where the file plays a sound at max SYSTEM volume. Usually the mac will trip something and disable the speakers until you restart or plug/unplug something into the headphone port.

I LOVED HTML5 YouTube when it worked, but the damage it does to your ears and speakers is unforgiveable, forcing me back to flash.

Something maybe up your end, I've been running the beta for weeks now and not hit any issues. I have seen it get progressively better and higher quality too. I uploaded a few 720P files yesterday and was surprised how soon the three resolution options were ready in HTML5 as well as Flash.

 

[ltldrummerboy]

I LOVED HTML5 YouTube when it worked, but the damage it does to your ears and speakers is unforgiveable, forcing me back to flash.

Dear god, my bleeding ears. I just experienced this after only my second HTML5 video. That was so painful. It felt like someone was banging on my eardrums with mallets. Bring on the Flash!

 

[mixel]

You know exactly why many Apple users hate Adobe.

It's because Steve Jobs has personal issues and hates them.

If Steve Jobs loved them and worked with them, then Apple users would also love them.

Nothing I've read comes close to suggesting Jobs HATES Adobe. The hate is totally misplaced. Adobe & Apple have an odd relationship but they definitely help each other out a lot.

Oh no..! A slightly slow (buggy? though not bad here) flash player which nevertheless performs totally fine on most people's Macs.. Like Apple never release buggy products and take ages to fix them up sometimes.

 

[Digitalclips]

I don't know where all those stories come from. I've had about a dozen Macs in the last four years, and Flash never behaved like that on any of my machines. It performed slow on PowerPC Macs, but it certainly didn't turn a Mac "into a camp fire". And it certainly never made a Mac crash.

I have about a dozen Macs, ranging from iMacs to iBooks, G4s, G5s and late model MacBooks and 8 Core Mac Pro. I can get any one of them to change up the fan speed easily by running a few Flash intensive pages. Now YouTube's HTML5 pages run flawlessly so I am convinced.

 

[Penicilin]

Holy CRAP MAN!!! This is a "MAC" site with lots of creative types, many of us make our bread an butter off Adobe, what's with all the hate?

I get that, and it's not the hate. When i come here i expect to see news about apple hardware and software. It's a great resource and a good reed every time (well most of it). After OS4 announcement it has been all about "apple did this, adobe sad that, than someone fu***d someone publicly, than we talk about it for days, and now more of this and there are no rumors or news that i'm here to see it the first place! I use photoshop also and i'm no adoby hater, but if i waned the news about adoby id go somewhere else to find it ect. And the "omg CS5 - lets talk some more about adoby and flash" news just got me frustrated a lot

 

[iEdd]

Maybe you should send feedback to MacRumors staff, suggesting a "Mac Related News" tab up the top near the Mac Rumors tab?

 

[JackAxe]

Yet, we don't need to do that when playing quicktime video.

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No Beta HTML5 in Dreamweaver? None whatsoever? Geez, Adobe. At least give some of us open-standards web-designers people some slack... I was at least going to start preparing for the innevitable.

Bloody hell, I'm actually starting to agree with some of the Firefox team's recent ranting.

You really like taking things out of context. Why don't you read the post I quoted. Supposedly he's using Flash, so your "WE" assumption doesn't apply. Or are you referring to yourself like Golem?

And instead of spewing out ignorance, Dreamweaver CS5 supports HTML 5 Canvas elements btw. Just to add to the pot, Adobe AIR 2.0 uses HTML 5 as its webkit. Flash CS5 can export animations to Canvas.

So, are you talking to yourself? Why not provide some more info about this FireFox rant instead of a vague comment that to me says you're just throwing something out for the sake of feeding your ego.

 

[ValSalva]

So let's see, a bloated new version of Photoshop with apparently one new killer feature and 13 or so other bloated apps with no significant improvement.

If it weren't for Photoshop native 64 bit in OS X I would skip this version in a heartbeat.

 

[MorphingDragon]

You really like taking things out of context. Why don't you read the post I quoted. Supposedly he's using Flash, so your "WE" assumption doesn't apply. Or are you referring to yourself like Golem?

We - The People. Why should anybody have to do what you just said to get flash working?

And instead of spewing out ignorance, Dreamweaver CS5 supports HTML 5 Canvas elements btw. Just to add to the pot, Adobe AIR 2.0 uses HTML 5 as its webkit. Flash CS5 can export animations to Canvas.

Nice addition (Especially since I live in Illustrator). But what about all the other HTML5 elements that have been finalized. I know I can type it out by hand but I use dreamweaver to save time and actually making a website than referring to handmade cheat sheets.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/

I don't hate Adobe, like you it earns me money. But Flash rubbs against my open standards orientated thinking, hell I write my University essays on open standards when given an option. But I was expecting more from Dreamweaver. I'm also sligtly pissed that firefox isn't doing ANYTHING to try remove H264 and replace with something... open.

So, are you talking to yourself? Why not provide some more info about this FireFox rant instead of a vague comment that to me says you're just throwing something out for the sake of feeding your ego.

They're buried within a typical open-srouce mailing list.
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo

Have fun, because I delete my history every month according to my work's requirements. (Along with a bunch of abritary stuff like connecting through a proxy server and having my home folder encrypted)

 

[ValSalva]

If you are a student or a teacher this looks like a good deal if you don't need video and audio editing.

 

[mdriftmeyer]

I have no idea what you're talking about. I've used HTML5 YouTube on two different MacBook Pros and never had this issue. I will say, however, that if this actually happened I'd think it's an issue with Safari handling HTML5 stuff rather than YouTube spitting out the wrong stream.

I'd say it has nothing to do with Safari, but with the incorrect audio encoding by Google.

Safari is just decoding the audio stream and playing it by leveraging QuickTime and it's AAC codec.

 

[-=XX=-Nephilim]

Cant wait!

 

[TMay]

No, this feature is fully compliant with the CURRENT iPhone OS SDK EULA. It -might- become an issue with the forthcoming SDK, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple will revert the announced changes because of the strong winds blowing into their face.

You like Flash.

We get that.

It IS an issue with the iPhone OS 4 so Flash Catalyst isn't going to be good for any iPhone development, and no, Apple isn't going to roll that back.

 

[mdriftmeyer]

You really like taking things out of context. Why don't you read the post I quoted. Supposedly he's using Flash, so your "WE" assumption doesn't apply. Or are you referring to yourself like Golem?

And instead of spewing out ignorance, Dreamweaver CS5 supports HTML 5 Canvas elements btw. Just to add to the pot, Adobe AIR 2.0 uses HTML 5 as its webkit. Flash CS5 can export animations to Canvas.

So, are you talking to yourself? Why not provide some more info about this FireFox rant instead of a vague comment that to me says you're just throwing something out for the sake of feeding your ego.

How useful would Adobe's product be for HTML5 standard browsers if it didn't support the Canvas tag?

The canvas element provides scripts with a resolution-dependent bitmap canvas, which can be used for rendering graphs, game graphics, or other visual images on the fly.

They better support it or their products are worthless moving forward.

 

[SwiftLives]

You know exactly why many Apple users hate Adobe.

It's because Steve Jobs has personal issues and hates them.

If Steve Jobs loved them and worked with them, then Apple users would also love them.

No - the reason is because their software has become so buggy over the past 5 years.

And you're exactly right. Those of us in the know get a weekly memo from Steve that directs us to like and dislike specific entities.

Give it a year - then Apple will buy Adobe.

Why would Apple buy Adobe? Why are so many people convincing themselves of this? At least 70% of their sales are for Windows machines. (Maybe closer to 80%). Why would Apple buy a product that would require massive support for Windows? And do you honestly think Apple would pay billions for Adobe and then just cease production on 70-80% of the company's sales?

 

[MorphingDragon]

They better support it or their products are worthless moving forward.

Can you see why I was sort of expecting more?

 

[tother]

???

Just wanted to put it out there

I've used After Effect, Photoshop, Flash, Dreamweaver & Lightroom everyday in a professional environment (studio w/ 20+ people). We use and abuse our machines/software 24/7 pushing the clients creativity in film & print advertising.

Yes computers & software crash, its part of reality... BUT without the great software Adobe produces, we wouldn't be able to create what we do! We also use alternative tool because not any "one" application does everything great. Alternatives for us are FCP, Shake, Nuke, Fusion (bootcamp), Gimp - we have tried everything out there and nothing else compares.

So instead of bashing the company who produce the tools that make incomes for many people... develop your own tools, find an alternative or give it a rest LOL

Oh I'm also a Mac fan, all hardware we use is Mac based BUT from experience Apple software needs much improvement. Final Cut is amazing, Logic is good, Shake had potential till they killed it, Aperture is so so... but everything else needs improvement and/or is consumer grade. Also I don't want Apple to control every aspect for it will eventually lead into complacency!

Thats about all I need to say, just make cool art guys - who care how you make it as long as its made

PS I run almost every Adobe app on my Macbook Pro 2.6 (2007) without any major issues and flash runs super smooth/cool on my machine only using on average 10-20%. Not sure why everyone else is having an issue with Adobe yeah I have crashes, maybe on average once a day between all the applications. Thats to be expected for how much pain I put the apps thru, just command+s guys & your days will be all good LOL

One last comment regarding good ol' Apple. Apple doesn't have everyones best interest in-mind - for example: Shake, wicked PC program - great potential. Apple bought it because of the market share, developed it for a bit - saw Nuke and Fusion where doing a better job at developing so they canned the program. Wish they would have just left it alone for Nreal to manage - we could have always used boot camp.... just a shame what Apple does every so often!

 

[Erwin-Br]

The people you see here foaming about Abobe are consumers who hate the company because Steve Jobs hates it too. They run pirated copies of CS4 so they can edit their family holiday photos. Their ignorance is quite stunning, I tell you. They think Apple can whip up a Photoshop killer in 2 months, and some of them are even suggesting moving to "alternatives" called Pixelmator and The Gimp! Like I said, they're consumers. And since Apple moved away from professionals to focus on consumers a few years ago, there are a LOT of them around these days.