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Today, Adobe has announced the Adobe Creative Suite.

The new Creative Suite comes in two versions - the Premium Edition and Standard edition.

Standard Edition ($999) includes Photoshop CS, Illustrator CS, InDesign CS and Version Cue, while the Premium Edition ($1229) also includes GoLive CS and Acrobat 6.0 Professional.

The new CS versions of Adobe's tools are also available for seperate individual purchase and upgrade.
 

Macette

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i like their new design... i hate the indesign icon in my dock. it bugs me. these new colours look pretty - i'm sure the icons will be much improved.

but i suspect i will not fork out $2000 just for the priviledge of new icons... :)
 

JtheLemur

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May 13, 2002
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Hmmmm. So is Photoshop CS an offically NEW version (like, an 8.0) or is it just like an 'interim' release? Hard to tell from the site...
 

acj

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this IS a major release! It has integrated camera RAW support! Before you had to buy adobe camera raw for $99. It has many other cool looking features as well!

AND 16 BIT EDITING FINALY!
 

nanosound

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Yeah, all we need is more barnd confusion!

Well Macromedia had to release 2004 MX after 2004.

What will follow after CS? CSI? CS 2004? Dontcha love the marketers?

And does anyone know if Livemotion is dead?
 

hokka

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so Macromedia MX

Why do they have to go the MX route, I see this whole "suite" or "studio" thing as a scam, sure it saves you money but it's trying to lock you in either Adobe or Macromedia.... I guess if you can't fight them - join them (for Adobe)
 

Oirectine

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Hmm...

From the system requirements:

Mac OS X v.10.2.4 through v.10.2.7 with Java Runtime Environment 1.4.1

Where's the 10.2.8 support?:rolleyes:
 

nacl99

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Re: so Macromedia MX

Originally posted by hokka
Why do they have to go the MX route, I see this whole "suite" or "studio" thing as a scam, sure it saves you money but it's trying to lock you in either Adobe or Macromedia.... I guess if you can't fight them - join them (for Adobe)

For Professionals Macromedia is just not an option, except Flash Director and Dreamweaver... The Rest is Crap

Oh and I'd like to throw a little BO-YAH in the face of Quark (I love InDesign and printers seem to love it too, and CS looks great!)
 

andrewh

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I wonder how long until they completely drop their big loser that is LiveMotion. Man did that one ever blow. Can't fault Adobe for the four in the suite though, they're all some of the best programs ever made.

I think this is definitely a revenue generating change in marketing. Looking at the new feature lists in each application reveals less than revolutionary changes. Valuable, but small upgrades for full upgrade price. I knew this was coming since they were quiet for so long. Time to buy even more software...
 

acj

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Originally posted by andrewh
Looking at the new feature lists in each application reveals less than revolutionary changes. Valuable, but small upgrades for full upgrade price. I knew this was coming since they were quiet for so long. Time to buy even more software...
For some, the upgrade would be worth $500. Depends on the business. Almost every new photoshop feature is one I've been waiting for for a long time. I'll be ordering my copy ASAP.
 

andrewh

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Originally posted by acj
For some, the upgrade would be worth $500. Depends on the business. Almost every new photoshop feature is one I've been waiting for for a long time. I'll be ordering my copy ASAP.

Yeah I'll be upgrading as well. I use all four of those apps, Photoshop and Illustrator every day. I also love InDesign and Golive. I somewhat retract my original position after reading the what's new PDF's on Adobe's site. Some cool stuff and the interfaces are beautiful. I wish Macromedia could have made Flash MX 2004 look as good. It's clearly inferior in comparison (the UI only). So awkward.
 

groovebuster

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Talking about prices... The german version costs 500.- € more in the Adobe store than the english version...

So far about pissing off customers. In the past the localized versions were always a little bit more expensive, but 50% is a joke! :mad:

groovebuster
 

.a

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i miss it saying: this is ps version 8 - we name it new: this is ps cs.
.a
 

gif32

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Sep 17, 2003
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Check that out! But I am a total sucker because last week (when I bought my first mac - a new 15" Powerbook) I got the Adobe Design Collection from my campus resller as well. I paid the education price ($352.90). Assuming I qualify under Adobe's cost-of-shipping upgrade policy (I think it's a 30 day guarantee on new versions), which CS package will they offer me? My current Design Collection has Acrobat and GoLive, but if I'm correct retail for that product was $1000. The new $1000 release does not include Acrobt or GoLive. Anyone have any more reliable info than my speculation? I better get the "professional" package and the guy on the phone better have been serious when he told me I could get an almost-free upgrade.

I had been watching this site religiously to keep up on the Powerbook update, but I never once thought to check before laying down the $$ for Adobe.
 

nacl99

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Originally posted by andrewh
Yeah I'll be upgrading as well. I use all four of those apps, Photoshop and Illustrator every day. I also love InDesign and Golive. I somewhat retract my original position after reading the what's new PDF's on Adobe's site. Some cool stuff and the interfaces are beautiful. I wish Macromedia could have made Flash MX 2004 look as good. It's clearly inferior in comparison (the UI only). So awkward.

One of the big reasons Macromedia Progs look so bad is a while back Adobe sued them about using Palettes, so that had a chilling effect on making the interface like Adobe.

Don't know if thats good or bad, I wish Adobe would just buy them so we wouldn't have to use two different companies.
 

ryanide

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From the order page on the adobe website, there is only an upgrade listed for windows at $169. The Mac version is only listed in the Full Version or Creative Suites.....???? Why is that?

Are they forcing mac users to upgrade to the Suite?


Photoschop CS look great. Too bad they couldn't just build the Image Ready into Photoshop without having it be a seperate program. Fireworks still kicks PS for web stuff anyway.....

And why do they even bother with GoLive? They should have put that to bed years ago.
 

gotohamish

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I can't believe that the long rumoured PRODUCT ACTIVATION is in this version... but WINDOWS ONLY.

Finally, a PC user will HAVE to be jealous of Photoshop on a Mac.
 

negrito

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this is a rebranding of software. instead of showing the legacy of a software by version numbers they are masking its legacy by some letters. this makes it feels much newer than just an uninteresting jump from 7 to 8.

some people in this thread already posted this experience by asking if this is a whole new version or just photoshop 8.

the problem behind this is just the one seen with the macromedia products. they had to come back to the "year naming scheme" and now it is some sort of strange naming scheme.

i think windows 95 began with the years and also began with the letters...or was it macromedia? :D

also apple did this with the new mac os, instead of putting a big 10 they put an X. at least this X is useful as it is the roman sign for ten. ;)
 
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