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No OS 9 support!

I, for one, actually also like LiveMotion quite a bit, mostly for its simplicity and the fact that it's not a convoluted, overblown colossus when I just need something quick, lean, and straightforward.

I was shocked to see that OS 9 is not supported anymore :(

Yes, I know that now I have "loser" stamped all over me for my love of OS 9,
but I'll probably be the last person on earth to switch - just don't like OSX and try to avoid it. I love the minimalist nature of the classic OS. Ah, I wish OSX had an optional appearance scheme that made it look much like OS 9... but that's another thread...

In any case, no OS 9 support means I'll stick with PS 7 for now :(
 
Originally posted by negrito
this is a rebranding of software. instead of showing the legacy of a software by version numbers they are masking its legacy by some letters. this makes it feels much newer than just an uninteresting jump from 7 to 8.
You are probably right, the name change might also get some people thinking the new release is extra special or different, since it has a new name.
I just hope PS is worth the upgrade, I feel like I just bought PS 7.
 
It just sounds plain cheap.

Anyone else who finds the 'CS' addition just sounds cheap-a$$? I don't think it distinguishes the apps from the former ones in a positive, 'futuristic' way with those stupid, fugly letters; I actually think it cheapens Adobe as a whole. I didn't like the 'MX' additions for the Macromedia Studio apps either (and still don't). Always I thought of Adobe as a company that stood above (a lot of) the others and was kind of classy. Well, not anymore, I guess.

:rolleyes:

Time to move on? Or will PS CS proof to actually be an improvement over PS 7? (Just not in the naming.) And yes, I agree with most here, the 'CS' thingy is confusing. Are these new apps (indeed) PS 8, AI 11, ID 3 and GL 7?

:confused:
 
Re: No OS 9 support!

Originally posted by true777
I, for one, actually also like LiveMotion quite a bit, mostly for its simplicity and the fact that it's not a convoluted, overblown colossus when I just need something quick, lean, and straightforward.

I was shocked to see that OS 9 is not supported anymore :(

Yes, I know that now I have "loser" stamped all over me for my love of OS 9,
but I'll probably be the last person on earth to switch - just don't like OSX and try to avoid it. I love the minimalist nature of the classic OS. Ah, I wish OSX had an optional appearance scheme that made it look much like OS 9... but that's another thread...

In any case, no OS 9 support means I'll stick with PS 7 for now :(

hey i am with you on the os 9 thing...i also like it better than os x

and when i use PCs, i like windows 98 better than windows XP but it comes down to my being more familiar with the older os:p
 
Originally posted by vwcruisn
So does photoshop cs, illustrator cs and indesign cs = photoshop 8, illustrator 11 and indesgin 3??? Im confused :confused:

Looks like it. I checked the education pricing for ps and it listed ps cs as version 8. All the rest would probably follow suite.

Also, a $169 upgrade for ps. I like that number. I'm thinking about upgrading.
 
man, they eliminate Pagemaker..:mad:

now that's a bummer if you ask me...yeah i'm also using indesign but nothing can compete with the speed of Pagemaker. This is the ONLY thing preventing our company for jumping on os X. And what happened to Babushka?!

And no os 9 adobe collection upgrade...

:confused:
 
had to respond

Originally posted by ryanide
From the order page on the adobe website, there is only an upgrade listed for windows at $169. The Mac version is only listed in the Full Version or Creative Suites.....???? Why is that?

Are they forcing mac users to upgrade to the Suite?



i had to respond to this, and quote it, because this is pissing me off, too!

on this page there is no OS X upgrade available for photoshop!

only the whole suite is available for OS X users. i hope this is an error, because i don't want anything else from adobe except photoshop!
 
Without LiveMotion, GoLive just doesn't seem worth upgrading.

Sure they added tighter integration with Photoshop and Illustrator; neither of which I use, at this time. I switched over to PhotoPAINT and CorelDRAW awhile back. Granted, unless Corel gets its act together and either sells Bryce or reinstates Mac development, I may switch over to Freehand.

When creating a webpage, GoLive needs to have the ease one finds with .Mac and the speed one associates with a blogging application.

Oh well. Guess I'll wait for a few GoLive reviews to come out and for Adobe to officially announce their plans for LiveMotion, before I consider upgrading.
 
NO MORE VENUS? :_( Brief Eulogy

I can't believe it.
Venus no longer graces the Illustrator box.

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She was quite an icon. Everyone associated her with the Illustrator product. She was a synonym for beauty and a masterpiece. She was with us from as far as time can remember. And although she underwent cosmetic changes from release to release, she always remained, in one shape or form - and we loved her.

As quoted from Wikipedia:

"For reasons unknown, Adobe has chosen to licence Sandro Botticelli's "The Birth of Venus" from the Bettmann Archive and use the portion containing Venus' face as Illustrator's branding image. Over the years, the rendition of this image on Illustrator's splash screen has become more refined as Illustrator gains new features. It's reasonable to assume that Adobe wanted Illustrator to be perceived as a professional product for discriminating artists. "


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Re: Hmm...

Originally posted by Oirectine
From the system requirements:

Mac OS X v.10.2.4 through v.10.2.7 with Java Runtime Environment 1.4.1

Where's the 10.2.8 support?:rolleyes:

I guess 10.2.8 was too ****ed up even by their standards :D
 
Re: NO MORE VENUS? :_( Brief Eulogy

Originally posted by mproud
I can't believe it.
Venus no longer graces the Illustrator box.

She was quite an icon. Everyone associated her with the Illustrator product. She was a synonym for beauty and a masterpiece. She was with us from as far as time can remember. And although she underwent cosmetic changes from release to release, she always remained, in one shape or form - and we loved her.


That is quite sad - and I really don't like the new box imagery at all - it doesn't look all that special and definitely not like Adobe. I wonder what caused the change....

D
 
I called Adobe's sales office and they do in fact have aPhotoshop upgrade for the Mac. Same price $169 - again, only available for pre-order.

Unfortunately, at the time, the product numbers haven't made it into their system, so the salesperson will have to call be back later when it's available.
 
For the life of me I can't figure out why people clicked this as a "Negative" on the MacRumors first page. What's negative about spiffy new product? My guess are either it's Adobe haters or OS 9 users who are now out in the cold, hey OS 9 users, you were holding up the OS X versions from being better in OS X, deal with it, you're working on a legacy OS! Anyways, these product upgrades are good and with the OS X versions written from the ground up for OS X they should now be reaching their stride. Amen.
 
I'm suprised at some peoples responces to the fact the new Photoshop is OSX only - Adobe said it would be months ago. Added to that Big Steve has told developers Mac OS 9 is dead (his words) and not to develop for it anymore. So why the suprise at a lack of OS 9 support?

As for the lack of a Mac upgrade, well it's listed on the Adobe Europe website (same price as the Windows UG), so I'm pretty sure it'll be available in elseware too.
 
As for the apps being OS X only, I'm fine with it. It will hopefully light a fire under the people who make our RIP software to finally get the OS X version of their software out (I work at a small printing company using Rampage).

As for the Photoshop CS instead of 8 tag, it's pretty lame. Maybe they should have rebranded it BS because the new features look kind of weak.
 
Originally posted by gotohamish
I can't believe that the long rumoured PRODUCT ACTIVATION is in this version... but WINDOWS ONLY.

Finally, a PC user will HAVE to be jealous of Photoshop on a Mac.
Possibly this happened because most of the software pirating is on the Windows side?
 
16-Bit Editing

Uh, excuse me, but did I misread several posts? People were getting excited about editing 16bpp images?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that functionality has been around since at least Photoshop 6...

-Aaron-
 
Looking through the new features on these programs, I personally feel that the new PS version is more similar to a 7.5 than a v.8. Yeah, there's 16-bit editting and some other features, but nothing as revolutionary as the brush palette in v.7. However, the upgrades to Illustrator and InDesign look wonderful, and I am really excited about them.
 
Re: 16-Bit Editing

Originally posted by aarond12
Uh, excuse me, but did I misread several posts? People were getting excited about editing 16bpp images?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that functionality has been around since at least Photoshop 6...

-Aaron-
Yes, it has been around, but it's only been partially functional. Only some of the features and filters worked.

Now most if not all of the features and filters work in 16bpp.
 
weak updates

I don't know about photoshop, but the illustrator upgrade is really weak. Some of the type features are nice, but that's about it from what I can tell. The 3d feature is ridiculous. With the proliferation of 3d programs, what pro would seriously use it for their work?

The InDesign upgrade is only a little better. They're asking a lot of money for a few decent features. I'm curious to see if their claims for speed enhancements are legit. Anyone try a pre-release version of these programs?
 
PRODUCT ACTIVATION

so this means that pirating should be cut down a lot... so they can lower their prices down to reasonable amounts, right?

i mean, wasn't pirating of software one of the original reasons they made their prices so high to begin with?

:p
 
Re: NO MORE VENUS? :_( Brief Eulogy

Originally posted by mproud
I can't believe it.
Venus no longer graces the Illustrator box.

The entire packaging scheme for the product line is very Apple inspired if you ask me. Adobe put an interesting spin on it with the masks which are generated from the image which they are masking. Fundamentally, (without seeing them in person) the boxes seem well-designed, but they don't get me in my gut. Overall, I'm not a big fan.

This has nothing to do with the software contained inside...
 
Originally posted by gif32
Check that out! But I am a total sucker because last week (when I bought my first mac - a new 15" Powerbook) I got the Adobe Design Collection from my campus resller as well. I paid the education price ($352.90). Assuming I qualify under Adobe's cost-of-shipping upgrade policy (I think it's a 30 day guarantee on new versions), which CS package will they offer me? My current Design Collection has Acrobat and GoLive, but if I'm correct retail for that product was $1000. The new $1000 release does not include Acrobt or GoLive. Anyone have any more reliable info than my speculation? I better get the "professional" package and the guy on the phone better have been serious when he told me I could get an almost-free upgrade.

I had been watching this site religiously to keep up on the Powerbook update, but I never once thought to check before laying down the $$ for Adobe.

If you look, the new EDU version is the Premium, which means i comes with those two apps. And, it's only $399... pretty sweet!

Alia
 
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