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As a web developer I think this is great news, a little step forward for open web standards. No need to be dependent on a proprietary plugin in 2011/12.

And thanks to Steve Jobs for writing and open and HONEST assessment of Flash. Unlike Adobe's bs marketing pitch response. Steve put it all out there and has been proven right.
 
Wait- so what will happen to the 'full internet' that every ****ing non iPad/iPhone product has been bragging about in their marketing bullets? How embarrassing. Steve Jobs again, is vindicated and proven to have been correct, when everyone said he was wrong. Adobe doesn't even have the slightest conviction of its own product. Pathetic.
 

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Well, the last point about 19 out of 20 device manufacturers isn't true now that Adobe have stopped supporting them, is it?
 
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At least it only took 2 years. Sometimes admitting you're wrong can take a lifetime.

+1

I commend adobe for their quick realisation...
 
Well, I wouldn't go that far, but it looks like Adobe is adopting to a different standard. The current version of flash will work on Android devices, for its current limited use, but there was a lot of work to be done to support the inputs of devices without a PC keyboard and or mouse for which much flash had a strict dependency on and couldn't accept an equivalent touch-screen interface to provide the input. Their lack of foresight to allow their libraries to accept devices on a library level, was an issue. It's almost akin to hard-coding.

The bad of it is, that it will definitely put a clock on Android devices as they will cease to function on most sites as Adobe continues to update the desktop flashes. As I've already seen with a number of Nintendo and Sony Devices that supported flash, they never could keep up and now the Flash Support on their devices amounts to almost nothing because they can't run any sites with updated flash. (Perhaps Homestarrunner, but that's only because that site is practically dead and hasn't updated its flash in years).

So it looks like, with this decision, that they are really planning to close the mobile Flash door. On the other hand, I also figure they have something else up their sleeve. Adobe didn't come unprepared and I think their new technologies for providing flash-like stuff as conversion packages may prove we'll see more good stuff from Adobe with similar easy-to-use editors which work on existing new technologies supported across mobile.
 
I've never really been behind the flash vendetta, but boy it has been crashing my browser a **** ton lately. It's starting to piss me off.

I would not be sad if this means that flash in general will be phased about as websites increasing cater to mobile platforms.
 
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Hmm, flash is closed Source deemed good by various people, because of what?

On the other side some people dislike iOS because it is closed source, the same people that do like flash?

My opinion in that regard is, that there is no need for flash anymore. It just adds complexity and dependencies where you already have to cope with a lot of complexity and sub standard languages like php.

Flash is obsolete, the best Adobe can do is to provide a superb HTML5 production environment seemlesly integrated into their suites.
 
Apple was right about Flash all along.

All this time, lack of Flash was seen as a negative for iOS. Now what will the Android fanboys have left? I think they should go follow Flash right off the deep end.
 
Hmm. Well, I can't say that I'm saddened. All I really want is Flash videos to play on my iPhone. Don't know what the technology and terminology behind all that jazz is, but I just want Flash video to play on my iPhone. Hopefully that will work someday. Some do already, but not all.
 
Hmm, this certainly means that Flash is not going to serve for web games for too long, right? It's a matter of time I guess.
What is the alternative for developing web games? Is it HTML 5?
 
And all fanboys screaming... predicting html5 replaces flash and never wrote a single line of code. weird.
I can't understand why's this a good news to celebrate. You couldn't run flash on the ios devices, so this doesn't effects you in any way.


such an embarrassing statement

You know, even if many haven't written code, they've been burned by Flash in the past. How about waiting years for Adobe to get it working? How about watching Adobe shut down Macromedia's Flash Mobile in 2005 because they were too blind to see the future? Only to start it up again after it was too late...their own fault.

I don't understand why you care what other people celebrate.
 
Hmm, this certainly means that Flash is not going to serve for web games for too long, right? It's a matter of time I guess.
What is the alternative for developing web games? Is it HTML 5?

The alternative is app-store type games.

Flash/actionscript will live on as a development environment, as the apps created using it can now be recompiled into iOS versions, or packaged as Adobe Air executables in order to run them on Android.
 
Adobe Flash sucks

They should have rewrote/rebuilt Flash from scratch after getting it from Macromedia. Flash is a dead platform. HTML5 can do everything Flash can without the performance pigness.
 
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Hmm, flash is closed Source deemed good by various people, because of what?

On the other side some people dislike iOS because it is closed source, the same people that do like flash?

My opinion in that regard is, that there is no need for flash anymore. It just adds complexity and dependencies where you already have to cope with a lot of complexity and sub standard languages like php.

Flash is obsolete, the best Adobe can do is to provide a superb HTML5 production environment seemlesly integrated into their suites.

A lot of these people loves flash so they can hate apple even more
 
I'm no expert when it comes to flash, but I think most Actionscript programmers are going to find their futures in programming Adobe AIR apps rather than internet content. Flash still lives on in desktop web browsers, but its popularity is falling rapidly.

I agree. While the desktop browsers can run flash, the web sites that depend on revenue from users know that mobile users are growing at a great clip (especially those with iPhones) so there will be a movement toward web sites that are completely mobile device friendly. Once that happens, flash will be over.
 
Adobe discontinued GoLive in favor of Dreamweaver.
And they sold Macromedia Final Cut to... :apple:
So yes, it sure worked out. :D:apple:

The Final Cut team moved from Macromedia to Apple in 1998 - Adobe didn't acquire Macromedia until 2005.
 
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