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Awesome. I still can't get over the idiot I ran across recently, who asked whether the iPad I was using was an iPad or a Tab. He proceeded to tell me that he bought a Tab because it runs Flash, and his demo video that he shows clients on his website is in Flash. First thing I said was, " maybe you should have changed the video instead," and of course he laughed as if that were an impossibility, and mumbled something about them both being the same anyway.
 
They're killing Flash ... now?

But Android devices are now being loaded with Quad-Core NVidia chipsets! Surely now they won't be sluggish pieces of crap!

I thought that was the Android-solution to terrible performance. Keep throwing hardware at the problem until it went away (instead of improving the code). Just make sure to keep your device plugged in all day so you can play that Flash.

Now what will those terrible devices boast in their commercials? They advertised "Flash" like it was a good thing. Apple knew it was crap. People that actually used it knew it was crap. Now Adobe admits it is crap, and is (thankfully) doing something about it.

I have three Android devices, and I make damn sure Flash is disabled on all of them. It's horrible. "Android with Flash" (the "real Internet", as the commercials say) gave such a sub-par browsing experience compared to any of my iOS devices.
 
does this mean learning flash action script is nearing its end of life? i just started some courses in school on action script, and while its a pretty nifty language, ive got a feeling flash is being phased out.

that said; how does this affect flash on the desktop?

Adobe is keeping Actionscript for AIR (and the frameworks overlap a lot with the Flash ones) so your knowledge isn't obsolete.

This indirectly affects desktop: Adobe is finally admitting that Flash is no longer a defacto web standard. The number of sites that depend on Flash with continue dwindle since no one wants to be locked out of mobile. At some point I imagine Adobe will kill the whole thing, but I don't think that's going to happen for a while.
 
I guess Uncle Walt was right! :eek:

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Uncle Walt's expression, just last summer, on being told how great it is that so many mobile devices do Flash.
The poor man spent so much time sucking up to Jobs his own identity suffered.

"All Things Digital" was / is a propaganda machine for Apple.

It will be interesting to see if Cook continues with the nefarious plan. It's public persona so large, he may be afraid & just go along with the cash cow it's become.

David Pogue is another big loser after the death of Jobs. He was always the first to receive new Apple products long before anyone knew about them. This, to assure he would publish gushing reports lavishing praise on the Revolutionary Devices. It would also assure massive sales of his "Missing Manual" series of books.

Total and complete fear of the rath of Jobs, kept this a secret from nearly everyone in the general public.

The gushing sappy tributes to Jobs will go on & on till eventually they are replaced with a tell all book, filled with truths of "the real dark side"


All of this assures us of plenty of fascinating reading.

From my perspective, I found the Young Steve Jobs, a great guy.

Too bad like many Hollywood Types, the money, power & influence turned him into a greedy creature determined to destroy his enemies.
 
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Lol so now flash can't be a selling point for fan droids to brag about
 
What was obvious two years ago has come to pass.

Congrats, Steve. You might not have killed Android, but you put an end to Flash - which is better for all of us.

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Someone needs to go wake Steve up and tell him he was right. :(

That would involve waking him constantly, about pretty much everything. Let the man be.
 
I wish I have options from Photoshop and InDesign and I'll be happy to dump all my Adobe products from my computer.

Adobe have been a over-priced rip off for many years.
 
Not my experience at all. Shopping for cars recently, I found the manufacturer mobile versions to contain much less content than the actual site. It's not just a CSS theme at all.

Same for Macrumors' mobile forum, it's not just a CSS theme.

People are really making mobile versions that are separate from the actual site and even serving it from a different sub-domain usually (m.domain.com instead of www.domain.com).

often times makes sense too, given different use cases etc. that said, logical separation of content and presentation for the sake of modularity is always a good idea. which, as always, makes me wonder why companies are so damn eager to develop proprietary solutions only to then incur unnecessary costs when expanding to new platforms.
 
The discontinuation of Flash on *mobile* is only rumored. Adobe also announced that they are killing 750 jobs so it sounds like they are set to cut costs and lean their product offerings.

Keep in mind that they are ending development of Flash on MOBILE devices. Flash will still be around, and it will be up to web page administrators to decide whether to offer equally featured mobile sites and desktop sites.

As with all new standards... the bigger sites will offer the functionality first and the smaller sites will take weeks/months/years to follow, so don't count on being able to get a full browsing experience on an iDevice just yet.
 
Two years ago, Steve Jobs said "Flash sucks on mobile devices". Adobe whined, screamed, bitched and moaned about it.

Today, Adobe just said "Flash sucks on mobile devices".

I think it's fair to say flash sucks on ANY device. A desktop, a laptop, a phone.. anything. It has to be the least efficient software ever written in the history of coding. It's as if the purpose of flash is to use 2-3 times the CPU that far superior video formats do.

Flash needs to be killed off on ANY device. Period.
 
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i think it's fair to say flash sucks on any device. A desktop, a laptop, a phone.. Anything. It has to be the least efficient software ever written in the history of coding. It's as if the purpose of flash is to use 2-3 times the cpu that far superior video formats do.

Flash needs to be killed off on any device. Period.

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HUH?
They haven't had enough time to figure it all out yet? You haven't figured it out it seems... it's a processor hog and it's inefficient, what more to figure out?
H264 is the future so live and learn and PROSPER!

Flash != video. So yeah, learning is definitely needed.
 
Sitting here wishing Steve Job's had this article land on his desk and wishing i could watch his face. I could imagine him saying one of his favorite lines from his book " this is ****! " :D

RIP Steve, you won the battle.
 
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Lol so now flash can't be a selling point for fan droids to brag about

Most droid features are either copies of iPhone features or some implementation of a niche or obscure feature that Apple doesn't support. Even with its prevalence, Flash is no exception. If for some reason a droid phone sprayed a fine mist of Chanel #5, I'm sure that would be excuse enough for a non-conformist Fandroid to say that only Android is innovative. And don't give me that nonsense about "well, there's only so many ways to make a smart phone, herp derp." Yeah, tell that to Microsoft, a company that produced how many mobile OS platforms that looked NOTHING like iPhone?
 
People (especially in the Apple community) really don't understand what Flash is and why it's still used in a lot of places.

I beg to differ guy. Most people understand that flash is mainly used on the web but overall it is a old, slow technology that had its day - but needs to be rested. Cant keep relying on the same technology for ever now can we?

If we were to compare Oil to flash - we would never inovate and move on from the technology. We needed something better more efficient ( electrick to gas as an example ). Don't say people dont know what it is when most of the people on here are hard core enthusiast's.
 
The discontinuation of Flash on *mobile* is only rumored. Adobe also announced that they are killing 750 jobs so it sounds like they are set to cut costs and lean their product offerings.

Keep in mind that they are ending development of Flash on MOBILE devices. Flash will still be around, and it will be up to web page administrators to decide whether to offer equally featured mobile sites and desktop sites.

As with all new standards... the bigger sites will offer the functionality first and the smaller sites will take weeks/months/years to follow, so don't count on being able to get a full browsing experience on an iDevice just yet.

Yes but who in her right mind would develop a site that locks out mobile web users? Which is probably the reason behind killing the plugin in the first place (since the most popular mobile browser did not support it so what's the point in a developer relying on it being present).
 
I guess Adobe agreed with Steve Jobs then, huh? :rolleyes:

Or just maybe they are changing with the times. If i thought that i had the best product in the whole world, but still saw that people were moving away from it, i would be quite stupid not to adapt.
 
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