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Adobe Launches Photoshop for iPad

Brammy said:
Re: Affinity. I had a conversation with someone in another thread about why he can't move to Affinity.

The Affinity apps aren't a 1:1 comparison to Adobe's. For prosumers, they are fine. But someone who has billable hours, and plug-ins that only work with Photoshop, Affinity can be a step back. As mentioned up thread, someone will bill out the year's cost of Adobe before lunch one day.

For the rest of us, they are fine apps. I love they give Adobe a challenge.
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I have to disagree on that, Affinity designer and photo, publisher are not prosumer at all
, and by the way AP 1.7 can load a lot of PS brushess.
 
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A little off-topic, but can anyone recommend a good YouTube channel or Udemy, books, etc. to learn how to use Photoshop?

Please and thank you!
 
Wash08 said:
I have to disagree on that, Affinity designer and photo, publisher are not prosumer at all
, and by the way AP 1.7 can load a lot of PS brushess.
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I used to be a big Photoshop user, and while I used to spend $500-$600 per version, I wouldn't upgrade all the time and squeezed the version I had all I could, it was cost effective for me. Granted I dont rake in a million bucks in work, If I were ad agency sized, I would gladly pay for the Cloud Subscription. $60/month = $636 a year if I were going to get the whole suite. Photoshop went down to $252 a year, and if you dont want to shell $252 next year you are screwed.

Enter Affinity (all their apps will cost a 1 time fee of $150 for all 3 or $49.99 a pop for each separate version (Photo, Designer and Publisher). I have gradually as much as I can have moved most of my work to Affinity. Is it perfect? No. There are things I can't do, that I would be able to do in Photoshop. I also use Pixelmator and Pixelmator Pro, to complement Affinity Photo. Even with the cost of those two apps, its still cheaper than photoshop, since I dont have to get screwed into a subscription platform.

From Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher, I think Designer is the one that is somewhat crippled, but then again how many features are patent blocked by Adobe, that they can add. it's not a perfect situation, but it is affordable, and affordable means I can buy software I use to make money and not work for Adobe using their software.

Adobe is unfortunately a standardization giant. We made them the standard over time and now it's screwing us in the patoony. There is no way around that. At least Adobe provided me with years of training, and what I can do in one app I can do it in three others, and that works for me as long as I can be productive. There are going to be professionals in our field that will be able to afford Adobe Cloud, and companies as well. Good for them. I am happy, that for the rest of us, there are other tools we can use. I am not afraid about that and I totally embrace them.
 
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JosephKing said:
Will never used subscription-based. Good luck to those that do.
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I think there should be a choice. Like 3DS Max provides. I remember purchasing the Master Collection of CS5 for $2,500 I believe. Maybe it was $2,600. Anyway, I get all Adobe CC products for $35 a month. That means I only spend $420 a year. It would take over 5 years to reach the $2,500 mark. And I get upgrade during that 5 years too.

I understand the stop paying for it lose access to documents argument. But really, $35 a month is not that bad. Even if it was $50 it is not that bad.
 
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kildjean said:
I used to be a big Photoshop user, and while I used to spend $500-$600 per version, I wouldn't upgrade all the time and squeezed the version I had all I could, it was cost effective for me. Granted I dont rake in a million bucks in work, If I were ad agency sized, I would gladly pay for the Cloud Subscription. $60/month = $636 a year if I were going to get the whole suite. Photoshop went down to $252 a year, and if you dont want to shell $252 next year you are screwed.

Enter Affinity (all their apps will cost a 1 time fee of $150 for all 3 or $49.99 a pop for each separate version (Photo, Designer and Publisher). I have gradually as much as I can have moved most of my work to Affinity. Is it perfect? No. There are things I can't do, that I would be able to do in Photoshop. I also use Pixelmator and Pixelmator Pro, to complement Affinity Photo. Even with the cost of those two apps, its still cheaper than photoshop, since I dont have to get screwed into a subscription platform.

From Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher, I think Designer is the one that is somewhat crippled, but then again how many features are patent blocked by Adobe, that they can add. it's not a perfect situation, but it is affordable, and affordable means I can buy software I use to make money and not work for Adobe using their software.

Adobe is unfortunately a standardization giant. We made them the standard over time and now it's screwing us in the patoony. There is no way around that. At least Adobe provided me with years of training, and what I can do in one app I can do it in three others, and that works for me as long as I can be productive. There are going to be professionals in our field that will be able to afford Adobe Cloud, and companies as well. Good for them. I am happy, that for the rest of us, there are other tools we can use. I am not afraid about that and I totally embrace them.
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Thank you, I was in the same situation, I ditch adobe 4 years ago, and like it happen to Quark when ID showed up the industry moved on, I see Affinity doing the same to Adobe...
 
xWhiplash said:
I think there should be a choice. Like 3DS Max provides. I remember purchasing the Master Collection of CS5 for $2,500 I believe. Maybe it was $2,600. Anyway, I get all Adobe CC products for $35 a month. That means I only spend $420 a year. It would take over 5 years to reach the $2,500 mark. And I get upgrade during that 5 years too.

I understand the stop paying for it lose access to documents argument. But really, $35 a month is not that bad. Even if it was $50 it is not that bad.
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I mean it really depends on use-case scenarios. A lot of people need like, 1 or 2 tools out of the whole suite. I'd rather pay 200$ up front... and be set for 5+ years (for my use-case). Updates are not as "big" as most people make them out to be either. Photoshop standalone will not just stop working after 5 years because it didn't get the latest update with a new paintbrush feature.
But to each their own. Professionals/businesses probably love the subscription model. The average public doesn't need it.
 
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JosephKing said:
I mean it really depends on use-case scenarios. A lot of people need like, 1 or 2 tools out of the whole suite. I'd rather pay 200$ up front... and be set for 5+ years (for my use-case). Updates are not as "big" as most people make them out to be either. Photoshop standalone will not just stop working after 5 years because it didn't get the latest update with a new paintbrush feature.
But to each their own. Professionals/businesses probably love the subscription model. The average public doesn't need it.
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I think the average public needs it MORE than businesses actually. Sure, saving money is great as a business, but Adobe would still be around if it was still $2,500 only instead of subscription model. I don't see some guy working at McDonalds spending $2,500 on software all at once. But they can make enough money to pay for it as a subscription service instead.

I am an average public user in terms of 3D modeling. I don't want and can't afford to spend $3,000+ on 3DS Max. But I can certainly spend $120 a month for it.
 
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zhenya said:
Or, to re-state your example, under the old model, you simply needed a piece of trim replaced, but the carpenter has a $500 minimum charge.

Seriously, for the casual user who only needs to use the software a couple of times per year, the new model should be cheaper. You simply use the $9.99/month option as you need it, and cancel when you don't. No need to pay hundreds of dollars up front just to do something basic. The barrier to entry of using the software has been dramatically lowered under this model.

Adobe is pretty clear that their new business model is not for casual users. Their focus is on power users and businesses, for whom the costs are inconsequential. There are a ton of free or near free options from Adobe and tons of others that suit the needs of casual users.
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I thought it was a 12 month contract?
 
realtuner said:
If the software doesn’t fit their needs then they can use something else. Clearly many don’t have the issues people are whining about here given their financial performance.
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Unfortunately, there aren't many alternative solutions unlike what you said especially in terms of the industry standard. This is why many Adobe users cant change their software easily.
 
redbeard331 said:
I’m curious how affinity compares to photoshop? Can it do everything photoshop can? Can you merge bracketed shots or work on different layers?
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It can't do everything that Photoshop can. But it can do an awful lot. Including merging bracketed shots and working on layers.
 
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xWhiplash said:
I think the average public needs it MORE than businesses actually. Sure, saving money is great as a business, but Adobe would still be around if it was still $2,500 only instead of subscription model. I don't see some guy working at McDonalds spending $2,500 on software all at once. But they can make enough money to pay for it as a subscription service instead.

I am an average public user in terms of 3D modeling. I don't want and can't afford to spend $3,000+ on 3DS Max. But I can certainly spend $120 a month for it.
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You are definitely in the minority. Most people do not need $3,000 3D modelling software. Most just want a decent version of Photoshop to edit photos. And most people don't want to be locked in paying 35-50 dollars per month forever, lest their software just "stops working".
 
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Wash08 said:
Thank you, I was in the same situation, I ditch adobe 4 years ago, and like it happen to Quark when ID showed up the industry moved on, I see Affinity doing the same to Adobe...
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I don't. Affinity is a LONG way from doing anything like that to Adobe. There are a lot of happy (and vocal) Affinity users. I own it myself. But Affinity is a tiny company with small revenues - $16.7 million in sales last year, this after being in business for 38 years (not exactly a rocketing growth curve). Read a few Glassdoor reviews about their management and I'm skeptical about their chances. And what is their ongoing business model? If people are perfectly content with their one time purchase, then their only revenues come from new sales, paid upgrades. I'm not advocating subscription software, but I understand why it is around and it does make sense for some people.
 
Not using Adobe software ever since they move to the cloud business.
There are so many great options for graphic apps available on iOS at affordable prices, why should anyone care about PS?
 
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Baymowe335 said:
iPad Pro continues to improve and replace computers for many use cases.

iPad growing at 17% is impressive.
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It just needs to be 4 times as big, and have the ability to connect a 2nd screen for pallets, a proper desktop file management environment, sh#tloads more ram, decent mouse support... and... it becomes an iMac!!!!! Hang on, but we already have one of those....
 
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It baffles me that people complain about the subscription model. I love it. Photoshop generates income for me on a day to day basis along with the other CS applications. Paying $20 a month is a godsend when there is thousands of dollars to be made per project, I would never buy a full version of a product again if it didn’t allow me to have the new yearly iterations of updates and releases like the monthly subscription model does. Plus you aren’t buying the application, you are buying a license, and those licenses can be removed anytime at the will of a company if they choose to.
 
If your business relies on Adobe then you have no choice, its the industry standard. However if you are like me who shoots travel videos as a hobby then Affinity and Final Cut are more practical.

Bought Final Cut Pro X way back in 2011 and got all the updates for free. Best bang for the buck app I ever owned.
 
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richpjr said:
I don't. Affinity is a LONG way from doing anything like that to Adobe. There are a lot of happy (and vocal) Affinity users. I own it myself. But Affinity is a tiny company with small revenues - $16.7 million in sales last year, this after being in business for 38 years (not exactly a rocketing growth curve). Read a few Glassdoor reviews about their management and I'm skeptical about their chances. And what is their ongoing business model? If people are perfectly content with their one time purchase, then their only revenues come from new sales, paid upgrades. I'm not advocating subscription software, but I understand why it is around and it does make sense for some people.
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I checked out their Glassdoor reviews and they seem mostly positive.
 
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