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Remember when people called Apple stupid for not supporting flash?

Now think about when people are going to call Apple stupid for removing the lightning port.
List of other moves Apple was called stupid: getting rid of Serial Ports, Floppy Drives, Original iPod Connector, 32-Bit for Mac OS, 64-bit for iOS, Mac OS Licensing, not using the linux kernel, not using the Mozilla Gecko engine, not supporting Enterprise (BusinessWeek can't go a year without crapping on Apple since 1990s)
 
Why - most people are pushing for USB-C....the lightning port is one of the most hated things of an iPhone. I could do with only having wireless as I barely every use the lightning port since my iPhone X.....only for the occasional fast charge when I forgot charging earlier and need to leave in a hurry. But that's being solved with faster wireless charging. Not a fan of the propietary mag-safe charger either tough.

Why what? Are you saying no one is going to call Apple stupid for doing so? Look at some Reddit threads. People are complaining their car doesn't have wireless carplay and lightning is the only way to do it. They even complained that they don't want to deal with adapters.

People will call Apple stupid for getting rid of lightning. No doubt.
 
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For most things, yes. There's still no good alternative to Flash for games or other static interactive content. I know that despite the EoL, I'm going to be taking language courses and corporate training that require Flash for years to come.
WebGL is pretty solid and Unity Editor is Free and a real development tool with a real language (C#). Plus there are tons of browser based games... SuperHot started in the browser [https://superhotgame.com/superhot-prototype/]
 
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Flash used, like, 1/1024 the CPU that many modern websites like Facebook and Twitter do with their heavy JS. Why, cause CPUs were that much slower back then. Not defending the use of Flash on sites, always disliked that too, but the web is still trash.
That's BS. If you paused a video mid-playback the CPU was still running high. Same test HTML Video and the CPU usage dropped. This was an easy test to run back then using YouTube (Flash based) and YouTube Beta (HTML Video). Another test was any Flash form sitting dormant versus similar for for HTML 5. The issue with Flash was it's EventLoop and to fix this they would need to break compatibility.
 
As someone who became a professional web developer/designer (paid for it regularly) a couple years after the “Thoughts on Flash” letter, I owe Steve Jobs a debt of gratitude. Dodged a bullet with that one! Having done it both ways it’s much easier, compatible, performant, responsive and accessible this way.
 
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The sad thing is there a lot of educational programs and applications that never were updated and still require flash... I remember having to use Chrome in 2015 because it was the browser that still had Flash installed by default...
 
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What if you have FLASH in your settings - but you do not have any applications for uninstalling it? I have no Adobe apps at all...
Adobe has an uninstaller you can download that will wipe it from your system.
 
That's BS. If you paused a video mid-playback the CPU was still running high. Same test HTML Video and the CPU usage dropped. This was an easy test to run back then using YouTube (Flash based) and YouTube Beta (HTML Video). Another test was any Flash form sitting dormant versus similar for for HTML 5. The issue with Flash was it's EventLoop and to fix this they would need to break compatibility.
Sure, if you compare specifically the idle CPU usage of video applications. The one thing that's actually well-optimized and had no real reason to be done in Flash other than lack of well-adopted standards for a while. I actually remember YT HTML5 beta being slower than Flash on my machine while playing, but I'd need to verify that.

A modern social media site can peg my CPU at 100% while I scroll. React is a hog, and Angular is even worse. No way Flash was using that much computing power 15 years ago because CPUs weren't even fast enough to do that. And WebRTC video is still really slow due to lack of hardware acceleration on most devices. I could do video chats in Flash-based AIM on an iMac G5, nothing modern beats that efficiency (and yes I do set Meet to 480p mode).
 
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Banks? What bank? I can't remember the last time I saw a website that used Flash.
I won't say which bank this came from, but it is one of the big four.
 

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WebGL is pretty solid and Unity Editor is Free and a real development tool with a real language (C#). Plus there are tons of browser based games... SuperHot started in the browser [https://superhotgame.com/superhot-prototype/]
It's not nearly as easy to use. Flash games were so plentiful that there were highly-ranked sites that just indexed thousands of them. Unity goes pretty far back, and I remember the more advanced 3D web games being built in it, but Flash was more widely accessible.
 
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Some sites still use it so I wouldn’t uninstall flash just yet unless you don’t frequent sites that use it
However in a couple months I’ll uninstall it for security reasons
 
A little perspective...

Flash was released by Macromedia 25 years ago, which was purchased by Adobe in 2005. At that time the web was in an uncomfortable transition from a text-based environment to a multimedia environment. The demand for rich content was strong except nobody knew quite how to do it. The eventual winner (HTML-5) was still years away, so for a decade Flash was about the only reliable way to get video & multimedia online. Flash dominated "Web 2.0" for years and professional Flash websites were stunningly impressive indeed. Its downfall is well-documented in Steve Jobs' open letter and elsewhere, but in the years before many young adults reading this were born -- Flash was ubiquitous online and in many ways was the backbone of the public internet.

I was Flash content creator at that time, and I agree.

Whenever people use PowerPoint, I am use stand alone flash packaged content. Everyone was mind blow.
Whenever people use GIF and marquee text on websites, my flash site simply obliterate them.
Cool preloader, hypnotizing particle, sound effect, music player , Flash dominate everything.

I am also one who deploys Sony Ericcson flash menu for SE handset (circa W660 〜 W995). Still have a few source files and internal tools left somewhere on my archive HDD, but most of them has been lost on catastrophic HDD failure a very long time ago.

I am not authorizing games though, mostly my project is website / device navigation menu, interactive content. I start retired around 2009 from flash world, I still clearly remember my last project was done in brand new 2009 Mac Pro with Snow Leopard 10.6.3

Just to share my old nostalgic memories before HTML5 was king ;)
 
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Ah Flash, so many memories. I started to learn it in 2005 as a young webdesigner. Did many websites using it. But over time it became clunky, bloated, malware mess. Now, same thing can be done using html 5, jQuery and whatnot.

Also, I remember in 2016(!) contacting my bank asking if they plan to drop Flash version of their internet banking webapp in favor of HTML one. Their response was that Flash is superior and their technologies are safe. Later that year they replaced Flash version with HTML one. I believe they were the last ones in my country among all banks to do it. And they pride the fact that they are technologic innovators.
 
As expensive as it's going to be for me and others, I hope Apple kills the lightning port soon. And yes, Apple is going to get criticized heavily for it, but I agree it will be for the better.
The issue with the lightning port is that I’d have to carry a bigger charger everywhere with me in comparison to the lightning plug.

in addition, no one, not even Apple has managed to create wireless headphones that don’t sound terrible and/or disconnect every 5-10 minutes. When those issues are fixed I’ll embrace removing the lightning port.
 
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Remember when people called Apple stupid for not supporting flash?

Now think about when people are going to call Apple stupid for removing the lightning port.
You mean the same lightning port Apple just put on their 600 dollar headphones? No, I don’t think so.
 
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List of other moves Apple was called stupid: getting rid of Serial Ports, Floppy Drives, Original iPod Connector, 32-Bit for Mac OS, 64-bit for iOS, Mac OS Licensing, not using the linux kernel, not using the Mozilla Gecko engine, not supporting Enterprise (BusinessWeek can't go a year without crapping on Apple since 1990s)

Getting rid of the headphone jack is STILL stupid.
 
The reason Steve jobs disliked Flash was because Apple doesn't make money if people use games in Flash, rather than games from the App store.

If people cannot play games in Flash on their mobile devices, then people have to go to Apple Arcade or buy games from the App store.

It is really simple.
 
The reason Steve jobs disliked Flash was because Apple doesn't make money if people use games in Flash, rather than games from the App store.

If people cannot play games in Flash on their mobile devices, then people have to go to Apple Arcade or buy games from the App store.

It is really simple.
There is probably some truth to this, but I believe the greater overarching reason was that flash was just a bad experience for iOS devices overall. They are resource and power hungry, and generally not optimised for a native touch interface.

Banning flash would force developers into creating native iOS apps that were optimised for touch, which meant a better user experience ultimately. And we are all better off for it.

Because that's what Apple excels at, if nothing else - forcing change.
 
Remember when people called Apple stupid for not supporting flash?

Now think about when people are going to call Apple stupid for removing the lightning port.

And removing the headphone jack, floppy disc port etc.

It amuses me so many years later that some still complain about the headphone jack. Apple drags the world kicking and screaming forward and in the end they always end up right.
 
Brings back good memories. I always got a kick out of Steve’s personal vendetta against Flash and knew one day he’d be proven right.
 
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