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I've been using an M1 MacBook Air as my full workstation for Adobe CC, and even with Rosetta, Photoshop was a lot quicker than the Mac Pro I moved from. Yesterday's update to photoshop making it M1 native has completely changed the game. I can open a 2.2GB photoshop Psb file in about 4 seconds. Which is, quite frankly, completely and utterly mind-blowing. This would take minutes on my previous pro-level machines. I can't wait for the rest of the CC suite to be updated.
 
Oh I can't use extensions that currently appear under Legacy Extensions with the M1 version? I have a couple of extensions such as a luminosity panel that I rely on.
No more CEP extensions, only UXP. And you can't install the Rosetta version with the M1 version. This is a stupid move.
 
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I've been using an M1 MacBook Air as my full workstation for Adobe CC, and even with Rosetta, Photoshop was a lot quicker than the Mac Pro I moved from. Yesterday's update to photoshop making it M1 native has completely changed the game. I can open a 2.2GB photoshop Psb file in about 4 seconds. Which is, quite frankly, completely and utterly mind-blowing. This would take minutes on my previous pro-level machines. I can't wait for the rest of the CC suite to be updated.

Wait... the M1 Air is faster than Mac Pro? I am going to guess this is the trash can pro from 2013?
 
Does anyone know how Peta Pixel or others have run Pugetbench on the M1? As far as I can tell, it is a "legacy extension", and can only run in Intel mode. How are they getting benchmarks if it doesn't work in native ARM mode?
 
I've not seen anyone mention anything related in this forum but has anybody noticed a significant lag when pinching in and out to zoom? After pinching in to zoom, it doesn't actually zoom in until about 3-4 seconds after...
 
No more CEP extensions, only UXP. And you can't install the Rosetta version with the M1 version. This is a stupid move.

In software development, you rev the major version when there's a breaking change. Not just rev the point release version and not provide a way to either coexist or easily go back.
 
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So is the Photoshop (Beta) Application now obsolete? The creative cloud app or website doesn't provide info.
 
Eh, I still just like Final Cut Pro for editing over Adobe.
I think it really matters on what your needs are.
For example I agree, Final Cut is a superior editing experience, if you only do that.
Premiere Pro, on the other hand, has thousands of high quality industry-standards plugins I couldn't live without and the render-less integration with After Effects (although a bit buggy) is priceless.
For my workflow, Premiere Pro is essential, even though I despise the horrible interface.
 
I've been using an M1 MacBook Air as my full workstation for Adobe CC, and even with Rosetta, Photoshop was a lot quicker than the Mac Pro I moved from. Yesterday's update to photoshop making it M1 native has completely changed the game. I can open a 2.2GB photoshop Psb file in about 4 seconds. Which is, quite frankly, completely and utterly mind-blowing. This would take minutes on my previous pro-level machines. I can't wait for the rest of the CC suite to be updated.

That's all SSD speed has very little to do with CPU. Taking minutes to open light 2.2GB PSB is some seriously old hardware. I do work with huge print PSBs that take 7GB and I never had to wait more than 15 seconds to open. Now saving such big PSB is whole different ball game, that can take close to a minute and that's where your CPU is involved.
 
So is the Photoshop (Beta) Application now obsolete? The creative cloud app or website doesn't provide info.

You can carry on running beta builds just like you can carry on running beta macOS.
 
I'm not sure everyone quite understands just how much faster "1.5X faster" is.

That being said, I've lost faith in Adobe's ability to release coherent, stable, and useful software years ago — primarily due to the shocking mess that is InDesign. I love ID, and I use it all day, every day. But the amount of bugs and oversights it adds with every update is only rivaled by the lack of useful new features. It is by-far the most crash-prone app I've had in over a decade. In fact, if you asked me what the second-most crash-prone app I have is, I couldn't tell you... other than it's probably another Adobe app like Illustrator or Acrobat.

What's most amazing is that Photoshop, for the most part, is the oldest app Adobe offers and has (probably) the most legacy code and support of any of their apps, yet it is the only one that is fast, stable and rarely crashes/freezes for me despite the fact that the file sizes I deal with in PS are massive compared to any other app I've ever used.
Yes I agree. I once had an InDesign bug that was cannibalising the file, and at first I didn't notice, as it was a document with ~50 pages. But tables started playing up and eating content before and after them. It had some complex tables and stuff and Adobe said that the bug was associated with complex tables.

Adobe "support" took over 48 hours to admit to me it was a known issue (and that no I wasn't going insane about a self cannibalising document), just wasted my time up to that point with useless tyre kicking kind of support questions and responses. I tried using my older backup Mac and that also had the problem. It was on the eve of an important job hand over and even though I worked until 6AM to days in a road to get the job back on track and delivered the client didn't understand and went crazy at me, they were stressed about their launch, understandably.

All Adobe could do three days after my initial contact was to tell me to save as an IMDL file and open it with a previous years version of INDD.

They spend so many years growing fat after they bought out the only viable completion in macromedia, can't wait to see Serif and others take over from Adobe. The integrated product suit is nice, but the points of integration are pretty weak, CC Libraries being the main connection point.
 
But are there any real competitor to ID? 🤔
Yes! Affinity Publisher is an In Design competitor and has some really great features, including that it shares a file format with and can do basic functions for Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer. This is super powerful.

It is also nice that Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo also have iPadOS support, that should only get better with the new iPad Pro.

Many lighter uses of In Design (very basic layout, like newsletters and single page documents) can also be done in Pages. It is not a replacement for medium or complex documents, but works well for basic ones.
 
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